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But Caro can't be in stories about ghost flights because you see Caro's alive.
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I am legitimately loving unnerved by Caro being alive, and you can check my regdate to see that I even missed most of the drama in-person.
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Literally Kermit posted:But Caro can't be in stories about ghost flights because you see Caro's alive. or is he 
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What's the betting he's forgotten his account password? Isolation, torture in near death are likely to frazzle the memory...
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Unbelievable. Caro is the last thing I expected to see in this thread today, holy poo poo.
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:What's the betting he's forgotten his account password? Isolation, torture in near death are likely to frazzle the memory... he's perma'd anyway iirc
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Literally The Worst posted:he's perma'd anyway iirc https://twitter.com/lowtax/status/718548673383309312
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Centripetal Horse posted:Apparently, Gay Talese has been in regular contact for several decades with a hotel owner who turned his hotel into a private voyeur preserve. Fifty years after the hotelier installed special vents in the ceilings of his rooms so he could watch - and record in detail - the sexual escapades of his patrons, he is ready to have his story told. So the night after I read this, I had a bad dream about my daughter telling me about how a man watches her in her room at night. So we can now claim this thread is legit nightmare inducing. (I ended up finding and accidentally killing him. I called the cops, but my wife refused to call a lawyer for me.  )
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:What's the betting he's forgotten his account password? Isolation, torture in near death are likely to frazzle the memory... It's probably the first thing they worked out of him.
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http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2009/02/wales-suicides200902 "Cluster suicide experts" For me multiple or communal suicides is incredibly unnerving. Suicide is obviously hideous in and of itself, but theirs the faintest solace in trying to understand it rationally. Its obviously part of being human, as we are the only animals who do it regularly and its biological purpose seems to be a sort of perverse altruistic urge to remove oneself from holding the "tribe" back, most people who off themselves feel helpless and useless. There is a perverse logic to it. From their we can at least work on a cure and ways to fight it. But cluster suicides throw that all out the window. When people are inspired by other suicides or fantasize about suicide-ing together with their friends it terrifies me. Suicide as a replicating meme-that stuff drives me crazy.
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My undergraduate advisor popularized the term "Werther Effect" regarding suicide following in the footsteps of media in the 1970s and 1980s. Really, a cheerful man. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copycat_suicide One of the earliest known associations between the media and suicide arose from Goethe's novel Die Leiden des jungen Werthers (The Sorrows of Young Werther). Soon after its publication in 1774, young men began to mimic the main character by dressing in yellow pants and blue jackets. In the novel, Werther shoots himself with a pistol after he is rejected by the woman he loves, and shortly after its publication there were many reports of young men using the same method to kill themselves in an act of hopelessness.[5]
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crowoutofcontext posted:http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2009/02/wales-suicides200902 Related, about clusters at a high school near me: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/12/the-silicon-valley-suicides/413140/
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I was reminded today of Jahi McMath, the young black woman who technically died in 2012 from complications after sleep apnea surgery, but whose family moved her across the country to keep her on life support ever since. [Link contains recent photos of a braindead person.] http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/03/21/jahi-mcmath-pronounced-dead-years-ago-healthy-new-photo-claims/82082798/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahi_McMath_case I can sympathize with the family both individually and systemically, but that doesn't stop the heebie-jeebies.
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It's wasn't complications from surgery, no? The mom tried to cram a burg into her daughter's throat right after surgery. Still very heebie geebie though. I wonder if the people who parade desiccated corpses of family members around would think us horrible for keeping dead bodies alive.
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I followed some links from the Jahi McMath article and found this. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_sign Holy poo poo.  This is so incredibly creepy it makes me a little anxious just to think about.
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Mocking Bird posted:My undergraduate advisor popularized the term "Werther Effect" regarding suicide following in the footsteps of media in the 1970s and 1980s. Really, a cheerful man. http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2007/08/hong_kong_suicides_revisited.html quote:n numerous articles (e.g. here) the debate is whether a famous suicide incites others to also commit suicide (who would not have otherwise) or if it simply incites people who would have committed suicide to simply copy the method.
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Wedemeyer posted:It's wasn't complications from surgery, no? The mom tried to cram a burg into her daughter's throat right after surgery. Still very heebie geebie though. I wonder if the people who parade desiccated corpses of family members around would think us horrible for keeping dead bodies alive. Those people will actually admit that their family member has passed on. The McMath's are delusional and insist a decomposing corpse kept "alive" with a ventilator is just waiting for a miracle from god and she'll wake up, good as new! Also they get a decent chunk of change from benefits due to her being "alive" It's ghoulish, greedy, and sad.
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crowoutofcontext posted:http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2009/02/wales-suicides200902 Great post. Thank you.
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Subjunctive posted:Related, about clusters at a high school near me: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/12/the-silicon-valley-suicides/413140/ Oh, that scared the gently caress out of me. My parents very much tied their love to my academic accomplishments. May I never tie my love to my daughter's.
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crowoutofcontext posted:But cluster suicides throw that all out the window. That's certainly a turn of phrase.
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I believe this is a new Skip Hollandsworth serial killer story in Texas Monthly (although they may have covered those murders before): http://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/murders-in-the-night/ Not quite the same sort of "unnerving" story as usual, but topically relevant, their feature on Austin Tice is also great: http://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/the-road-to-damascus/
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In the mid-1970s, a young man named Russell Smrekar murdered several witnesses who were going to testify against him in two separate criminal trials. Absolute cold-blooded, mafia hitman-style murders; killing the pregnant wife of one of the witnesses because she happened to be there when he broke into their house, burying another victim's body under a highway construction site. All told, he killed four people and was plotting to kill two more before he was convicted of the previous murders. The kicker is that the trials the victims were going to testify against him at were for: a) Stealing a guitar and some records from a college dorm room b) Shoplifting three steaks, valued at $4, from a Kroeger's Four murders. To get out of petty theft charges.
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Slightly related to the "Cluster suicides", there was an article in NPR today about a state of emergency being declared in Candada due to 11 suicide attempts in one night in a remote area: Canadian First Nation Declares State Of Emergency Over Suicide Attempts It's frightening how quickly such a thing can send other people over the tipping point.
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More unnerving real-life poo poo: The New Yorker reports on the efforts of an NGO to document the war crimes of the Assad regime. And this isn't witness interviewing or scouring YouTube to bring attention to the conflict. This is getting smuggled documents out of the country while also following best practices for war crime prosecution (documenting where docs came from, when they were taken, who took them, when they transferred to another courier, what the doc says,etc). They're building a complete case with chains of custody for when (if) the ICC gets to prosecute the regime. It ends on an absolutely devastating story that intertwines the history of the conflict, the decisions made by those in power, and the effects those decisions had on one Syrian who eventually made it out of some of the worst military prisons.
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doodlebugs posted:ive been watching videos by Marshall Applewhite I like his Tonight Show curtain backdrop.
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pookel posted:I believe this is a new Skip Hollandsworth serial killer story in Texas Monthly (although they may have covered those murders before): I went looking because the above book excerpt was compelling but unsatisfying and they did cover those murders before, in an article from 2000, http://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/capital-murder/ Filox has a new favorite as of 01:07 on Apr 12, 2016 |
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crowoutofcontext posted:http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2009/02/wales-suicides200902 A Native community in Canada recently declared a state of emergency after 11 attempted suicides in a single day. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/attawapiskat-suicide-first-nations-emergency-1.3528747
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Something regarding first nations people in Canada that doesn't really get addressed in police reports or medical examiner reports is the number of people who are generally written down as having frozen to death. A social worker who works with them I spoke to was talking about how often you have cops tell drunk people to walk it off, and usually their communities are several miles from the local bar so that ends up having the added effect of freezing them to death but having their deaths marked as accidental, weather-related deaths rather than coerced suicide or police-related. There's a real problem with this that social workers are trying to make people more aware of.
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SC Bracer posted:Something regarding first nations people in Canada that doesn't really get addressed in police reports or medical examiner reports is the number of people who are generally written down as having frozen to death. A social worker who works with them I spoke to was talking about how often you have cops tell drunk people to walk it off, and usually their communities are several miles from the local bar so that ends up having the added effect of freezing them to death but having their deaths marked as accidental, weather-related deaths rather than coerced suicide or police-related. There's a real problem with this that social workers are trying to make people more aware of. That and just dumping them in the middle of nowhere on purpose, which cops also do.
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Apraxin posted:In the mid-1970s, a young man named Russell Smrekar murdered several witnesses who were going to testify against him in two separate criminal trials. Absolute cold-blooded, mafia hitman-style murders; killing the pregnant wife of one of the witnesses because she happened to be there when he broke into their house, burying another victim's body under a highway construction site. All told, he killed four people and was plotting to kill two more before he was convicted of the previous murders. The kicker is that the trials the victims were going to testify against him at were for: Hey potential murderers, I am amenable to intimidation. No need to got to all the trouble of murdering me.  Or just give me tickets to a concert that conflicts with the court date. Whatever. I wasn’t all that exited about taking time off to testify about $4 in steaks, and I won’t look a gift horse in the mouth. Just thought I’d put that out there.
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Platystemon posted:Hey potential murderers, I am amenable to intimidation. No need to got to all the trouble of murdering me. Maybe they should make Medicalert bracelets for "amenable to witness tampering".
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Subjunctive posted:Maybe they should make Medicalert bracelets for "amenable to witness tampering".
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Filox posted:I went looking because the above book excerpt was compelling but unsatisfying and they did cover those murders before, in an article from 2000, http://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/capital-murder/ PBS had an investigative piece on it a while back where - at least from the research presented on the show - they had a pretty strong suspect. Here we go: History Detectives. I haven't re-watched it, but recall that the show's leads started off awful and nonsensical, but it actually led somewhere.
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Art Alexakis posted:A Native community in Canada recently declared a state of emergency after 11 attempted suicides in a single day. This isn't even the only place where that is happening, or even the worst. In the province next door, there was a community dealing with about ten attempts or threats per day over a two week period earlier this winter: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/pimicikamak-declares-state-of-emergency-1.3483456 Some of the remote reserves are terrible and I have no idea why people don't leave for greener pastures. Actually, I do know that in large part it is because of rampant racism in cities, particularly in the prairies. And a host of other socio-economic factors. But it is bad in some of these places. There'll be like 300 jobs for a population of 9000, you just can't make that work. Antifreeze Head has a new favorite as of 16:26 on Apr 12, 2016 |
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The treatment of native peoples by the Canadian government could fill a thread on it's own. You know it's bad when during our last Federal election one of the big talking points was the thousands of missing/presumed dead aboriginal women and what the new government will do to investigate. Because previously, the government didn't give a poo poo. Seriously. http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news/canada/2014/05/01/1000_native_women_murdered_missing_in_canada_over_30_years_rcmp.html Another great example is the horrible abuse that was commonplace in residential schools. Often the places were absolutely riddled with TB and other diseases and there was no attempt to quarantine. When the kids would die, they were buried on school property and forgotten. Sometimes their parents wouldn't even be notified. Keep in mind... This wasn't something that happened a long time ago. This poo poo was going down into the 1970's at least. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/06/canada-dark-of-history-residential-schools Basically Canada is a great place to live if you aren't native.
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GWBBQ posted:There are videos on Youtube. I just watched a dead body lift its arms up and put them on its chest. I saw that too. It was hosed up, but I'm sure as hell glad I know what a Lazarus Sign is now.
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