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The signal to noise is right on. I hate that poo poo and its getting old. Having actual books in my possession I use them more, and more and more I just open a site, see its cluttered to poo poo with ads and whatever, then close it immediately. And youtube now is horrible with ads on every single video, monetized or not. gently caress it.
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JediTalentAgent posted:I wish I could find it, but about a few years ago Yahoo had a Pecan Pie recipe in it as a headline article around the holidays. http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/rainbow-cake-recipe-inspires-comment-apocalypse-1592575661 The original page is down now, but this pretty innocuous recipe similarly spiraled out of control for reasons I will never understand. (yeah yeah gawker i know)
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Powered Descent posted:This is good stuff, but no discussion of AOL and the Internet would be complete without mentioning The September That Never Ended. Ah yes, the September that never ended. I think Greenday wrote a song about it.
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Cojawfee posted:Ah yes, back when google was based on the text used to link to other sites. Back when you could get enough people to link a search term to a certain page as a joke. One of my friends spent like an hour putting together some fake blogs with backlinks that made it so "our hs sucks" was the first entry over "our hs" or something like that. It was a big bit around school for like a day people had fun searching for our highschool name and seeing google report that it does, in fact, suck. Good times,, lads.
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Last Chance posted:If its content that's actually entertaining to read like The Onion, it's nice to just keep flipping through articles and it sort of emulates their books full of collected articles, which I always enjoyed. Counterpoint: Scroll 3 "loads" down Click on article Hit back button, you are now back on "load" one at maximum y position For this, gently caress infinite scroll forever and ever a hundred years, morty
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max4me posted:did you say MSN? This show was so loving weird
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garfield hentai posted:http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/rainbow-cake-recipe-inspires-comment-apocalypse-1592575661 Gawker had a few reply-allpocalypse articles a while ago that were funny like this but without all the projected rage Fake edit: looks like they have a network-wide tag for these clusterfucks http://deadspin.com/time-inc-is-in-the-midst-of-a-replyallpocalypse-1754078898 http://gawker.com/georgetown-campus-conservatives-traumatized-over-scal-1760584586
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Speaking of recipes, did you hear about how Nieman Marcus had the gall to charge this woman $250 for a cookie recipe and you can help her fight back against the man by forwarding the recipe along to everyone you know? (I lost count of how many times I saw variations of that stupid email around 1998 or so...)
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Concerned Citizen posted:how the grinch stole christmas is actually the second result! Okay but he's more green in the Grinch than in the mask, so arguably that should be the first result 
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This is like the one thread in GBS that isn't about hating poo poo and being mad at everything, please don't ruin that with your housewife recipe manifesto.
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Nice work on this new thread title though mods
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thathonkey posted:Nice work on this new thread title though mods  Bear in mind the image above is about 5-10x too fast.
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For another internet relic, I remember when they banned the phrase "[56k does whatever that's bad]" from the forums.
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:Unfortunately there is no save button. Yeah I just want to screenshot everything, unless there's some software I could use that would decompile the keywords or something and I could archive them better? I am more than happy to do that if there's such a thing. That archiveteam web page had some links to tools that might maybe possibly do this, either now or possibly in the future. Did you happen to try any of them? I don't know anything about them. 8 track betamax posted:Where can I download a complete snapshot of 1999 era internet and then host that on a.......server?? And then browse in it with netscape in win95 I thought about making a sorta-walled garden for retro computing stuff (i.e. earlier than 1999), with a search engine that might just index a few selected sites that were known to be good, but  Your job is easier because at least https://archive.org/web/ goes back to 1999!
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Powered Descent posted:This is good stuff, but no discussion of AOL and the Internet would be complete without mentioning The September That Never Ended. I always appreciated this term, even though at some point I was the noob (I didn't use AOL though, thankfully). I wonder if there are similar terms / phenomenons for later events? Maybe when Facebook went public, or twitter or tumblr caught on?
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Light Gun Man posted:I always appreciated this term, even though at some point I was the noob (I didn't use AOL though, thankfully). I wonder if there are similar terms / phenomenons for later events? Maybe when Facebook went public, or twitter or tumblr caught on? Teaching hospitals see an increase of errors in around the time the new batch of interns come in.
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Beef Turret posted:Xbo.ne Xbone
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How ironic, the user "UIApplication" not noticing the button marked "Edit"  edit: and after fake editing too! Weatherman has a new favorite as of 10:31 on Apr 12, 2016 |
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jm20 posted:
3.0 or bust, son  I always hated that yellow guy. That's when AOL became mainstream, man!  For real though most of my friends do not remember 3.0 (even if they had it, they just don't remember any of the images I am showing them). 4.0 and the yellow running man and the gigantic "tool bar" on top is all they remember (I want to say this started in 1997). I actually remember 2.5, before buddy lists. You literally had to CTRL+L all day long to see if a friend of yours signed on. A buddy list was like a legit, major feature.  (sadly, this is not my image as AOL blocks people from signing on with anything older than 6.0) Buttcoin purse posted:That archiveteam web page had some links to tools that might maybe possibly do this, either now or possibly in the future. Did you happen to try any of them? I don't know anything about them. Do you know which zip to download? There's dozens of them. I would be more than happy to contribute to permanent archiving. edit: I downloaded 3 zips so far and there's a lot of .txt files and .sit files but nothing that seems to be a tool of any sort. Chumbawumba4ever97 has a new favorite as of 12:46 on Apr 12, 2016 |
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:Do you know which zip to download? There's dozens of them. I would be more than happy to contribute to permanent archiving. I'm not referring to the .zips on archive.org, I'm referring to the list of links at http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=AOL#Software I mean probably the links are all broken or the tools don't work anyway but maybe it's worth a shot. So how are you finding these long links with numbers in them like aol://4344:773.hubmain2.6836943.517768180/ , just web searching? Have you found lots of these? So many you can't go through them all manually?
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Buttcoin purse posted:I'm not referring to the .zips on archive.org, I'm referring to the list of links at http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=AOL#Software Oops, now I understand. OK I will try to download all those tools and see what happens. Buttcoin purse posted:So how are you finding these long links with numbers in them like aol://4344:773.hubmain2.6836943.517768180/ , just web searching? Have you found lots of these? So many you can't go through them all manually? The thing that got a fire under my rear end to look into all of this was I searched the server in my basement (literally just an old PC that I managed to cram 14 hard drives into; 1TB being the smallest, 4TB being the largest) because I am a digital hoarder and hey, I might need a book report I did in junior high someday. Anyway, I searched for the oldest files I could find, and it seemed to be from 1996 (even though I've used PCs way longer than that) and they were all AOL "filing cabinet" files. I opened them using AOL software and to my surprise, there were a ton of emails I saved from an old girlfriend I had in high school, some e-mails from the old days of eBay where people would email you their address so you could send them a money order (this is before Paypal), and other stuff I guess I found important at the time (such as the song requests for a mix CD a friend wanted because I was the only person with a CD burner). I had a few "favorite places" saved and that's how I found some of this stuff as it directly links to them. (a fun example of one of the emails to me that I found):  If anyone here wasn't using eBay back then, that's how it was. You'd win the auction and you would be personally emailed by the seller telling you their address so you could send a check or money order. I also wanna know how the hell I came up with $230+ for a CD burner in 1998. I probably worked my $4 an hour job for an entire month to buy that thing. The rest of the keyword links I found by going to Google, searching "aol favorite places", and setting the date to 1995 to 1999 and I got like two websites where someone actually uploaded their favorite places. That's how I found Slingo. Not much else, unfortunately. Why doesn't anyone else back up useless poo poo from 20 years ago besides me??  edit: I should clarify that any of the favorites I happened to have saved, or ones I found on that one page were useless if they begin with aol://1722: as all that command does is search the keyword for you (so aol://1722:nickelodeon would be no different than just going to keyword nickelodeon, which doesn't work, so I need "hard" "permanent" links to get anywhere). Chumbawumba4ever97 has a new favorite as of 13:38 on Apr 12, 2016 |
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I do, sadly none of it is interesting. Else if you're looking for old BBS crap there's textfiles.com and that geocities mirror but I don't think such a thing exists for AOL. Kind of a pity really. I never was subjected to AOL so it seems interesting.
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Police Automaton posted:I do, sadly none of it is interesting. A big reason I think none of it was archived was because of the container used for all the AOL stuff. Most of the time you could not even copy text that was in a keyword. It was "closed off" from letting you do that.
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error1 posted:Why isn't there a HTML standard for a default "next page" action that browsers can use? Then you could use the back/forward buttons on your mouse or keyboard shortcuts without having to hunt for the link to the next page, instead of disabling the forward button when you're at the the most recent page in your history. There is, and it has existed since HTML4: <link rel="next" href="page2.html" /> in the header. I believe it was one of the things opera used for its half-magical prev/next page buttons.
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Computer viking posted:There is, and it has existed since HTML4: <link rel="next" href="page2.html" /> in the header. I believe it was one of the things opera used for its half-magical prev/next page buttons. I've wasted 30 minutes trying to get this to work on safari, chrome, firefox and opera and nobody seems to support it anymore, apart from using it to prefetch stuff. Apparently it's mostly used by search engines and content indexers to figure out the ordering of documents? The closest I got was the help page for the old Presto-based versions of opera: http://help.opera.com/Linux/11.00/en/toolbars.html Too bad, meta links like that would be really convenient for keyboard navigation.
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blugu64 posted:
Hey my mom had that exact coaster too!
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Efexeye posted:"OMG This was suuuuuuch a great recipe after I added three other seasonings, substituted two ingredients and used a different protein. SO GOOD FIVE STARS"- every comment on every recipe on every food website ever I like the humble brags about subbing in duck fat mayo, using Iberian ham shavings, hand picked heirloom tomatoes, and double organic kale to make a BLT on BeardBros. Bread that costs $20 a loaf.
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error1 posted:I've wasted 30 minutes trying to get this to work on safari, chrome, firefox and opera and nobody seems to support it anymore, apart from using it to prefetch stuff. Apparently it's mostly used by search engines and content indexers to figure out the ordering of documents? Yeah, I think presto opera was the only browser I've used that gave you a "next page" button/shortcut; presumably it wasn't useful enough often enough to be picked up by the others.
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So I just discovered LINKS browser..............I think everything is going to be ok now.
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max4me posted:did you say MSN? my boss insists on using msn explorer and gets super pissed off when it doesn't work and sends me crash dump data at all times gently caress him
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I think it was lost in conversation above but even in the early days AOL had all their hosted content plus the ability to search the net and actually get on the web using this. At the very beginning did AOL have no access to the internet? My earliest days on it were probably around 1996 or so, it's hard to say though. I remember arguing with a couple older nerds how AOL was superior because it had the internet plus all that AOL content. But looking back I do not recall using anything but a few chat rooms. I do remember seeing lol for the first time, having no clue what it was. The AOL chatrooms I recall were just people sending porn gifs to each other as you could just push them to people. A lot of it shock stuff like poop and worth.jpg. I also remember trying to go to a URL, entering it then hitting search which wouldn't take you there as you needed to hit enter and calling tech support.
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:
why did every piece of software in the mid 90's have that weird marble countertop image in the background?
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Augmented Dickey posted:why did every piece of software in the mid 90's have that weird marble countertop image in the background? in the incredible world of the cyber-future, all surfaces are marble and all floors checkerboard
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free netzero dialup with the big ad banner at the top of the screen on my 15 inch crt monitor
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Sten Freak posted:I think it was lost in conversation above but even in the early days AOL had all their hosted content plus the ability to search the net and actually get on the web using this. At the very beginning did AOL have no access to the internet? My earliest days on it were probably around 1996 or so, it's hard to say though. Yeah, for a long time AOL had no internet access. It was around for a while before '93, and I think that's when they added Usenet and I think the internal web browser was '93 too (For windows only). The DOS version of AOL used a windowing environment originally designed for Commodore 64 machines (GEOS) called GeoWorks Ensemble. It was awful. Also no internet for DOS users. I think the DOS version was maintained until '96 or '97. 
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snakeandbake posted:free netzero dialup with the big ad banner at the top of the screen on my 15 inch crt monitor Same but Tritium. control alt delete, [end task] adpath.exe and the ads disappeared  Sten Freak posted:At the very beginning did AOL have no access to the internet? My earliest days on it were probably around 1996 or so, it's hard to say though. I believe this is the case. I recall there being no web browser in 2.5, but I could be remembering wrong. I downloaded the software to see for myself but I can't since they block people from signing on with it now. One thing to show you how pro-walled garden they were; it wasn't until 2006 that they let you have an AOL email address without paying them money. That meant that to keep the email address my entire family had since the mid to late 90s, we had to pay AOL like 10 dollars a month even though we got cable long before that. It was ridiculous but keep in mind people were still using AIM in the early 00s so losing your account was a big deal. One other thing I vaguely remember was not being able to use an external browser when using AOL. Somehow, even if you were connected to AOL, if you then opened Internet Explorer or Netscape Navigator or whatever, you could not connect to websites. I am not sure how they managed to pull that one off but I remember that being a thing until at least 1997. You had to visit websites from "within" AOL.
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GutBomb posted:Yeah, for a long time AOL had no internet access. It was around for a while before '93, and I think that's when they added Usenet and I think the internal web browser was '93 too (For windows only). Yep, September of 1993 is known as "Eternal September" because that's when AOL opened the floodgates of it's users onto Usenet. September was when new crops of university students would get access to the internet for the first time and Usenet would inevitably be flooded with "METALLICA RULES!" types of messages a few weeks before they learned some manners or got bored. Once AOL users could access Usenet though, September of 1993 became the September that never ended.
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Sten Freak posted:At the very beginning did AOL have no access to the internet? Augmented Dickey posted:why did every piece of software in the mid 90's have that weird marble countertop image in the background? I remember downloading tons of Sailor Moon/cartoon/whatever pictures on my ol' Performa, then moving those files to my 2000-era HP with a new 15" screen. All the salt-n-pepper look of the images went away because they were higher quality than my Mac monitor could render.
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