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Rabble posted:I've said it before and I'll say it again, they need to take the RNG out of crafting. Every blueprint makes the same item with the same stats. Expand the pool of blueprints to include fire/stam/elec versions of everything. Talents come from special crafting material you get off drops that you can either bake into the initial craft or recalibrate later. This is still half-assing the problem with loot, a problem Massive still has. They should either go full MMO loot and have all endgame gear handcrafted, fixed stats, unique talents, specific named gear on specific bosses' loot tables you can farm. With crafted gear bring the same as well. They should be alternatives or stepping stones. Or you give us a proper loot grind and find a good balance of killing stuff and loot dropping often enough. Right now lot doesn't drop often enough, there's not much unique loot or use to branch out from SMG/m1a, etc. Right now the loot system takes the worse off those two loot systems with none of the advantages.
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Apr 13, 2016 17:38
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Edmond Dantes posted:My connection is not being helpful today so I still have like 8 hours to go, but I'll keep it in mind, thanks. Make sure to hop into mumble. You can get bored goons or guys leveling alts to help you out in any mission. (Although if you follow the breadcrumbs you should be able to solo them fine).
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Apr 13, 2016 17:39
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I was full yellow gear but stopped playing two weeks ago, I read I can now yet green gear for doing the same poo poo I did before, any reason to pick this back up?
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Apr 13, 2016 18:02
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Zethe posted:I was full yellow gear but stopped playing two weeks ago, I read I can now yet green gear for doing the same poo poo I did before, any reason to pick this back up? nah.
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Apr 13, 2016 18:13
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Zethe posted:I was full yellow gear but stopped playing two weeks ago, I read I can now yet green gear for doing the same poo poo I did before, any reason to pick this back up? If you got the point just TWO weeks ago (3? 4? weeks after release) where you didn't want to play anymore then this update isn't going to be any different. They basically added new gear, a new mission that is a cluster gently caress and new ways to get gear easier I guess. Nothing else has changed from the original core mechanics of the game that everyone either loved or hated. This game is going to go the way of Borderlands 2 pretty quick in that people play through the initial leveling process...complain..quit..then wait for the DLC to drop, play that for a week, complain, quit again.. Rinse/Repeat. Actually it already has in many ways.
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Apr 13, 2016 18:14
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Is there a place to get a (good chance of, at least) 12x or 15x scope/blueprint? The BoO CQBSS is butts for sniping.
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Apr 13, 2016 18:15
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You can buy two pieces of the Nomad set at the DZ06 safehouse. I ended up doing this because they are massive upgrades over what I currently have armor and statwise.
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Apr 13, 2016 18:15
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This may be a dumb question, but did they actually fix Scavenging > 100% in the last patch? I'm guessing no?
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Apr 13, 2016 18:16
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Fishstick posted:This may be a dumb question, but did they actually fix Scavenging > 100% in the last patch? I'm guessing no? According to them scavenging isn't broken > 100% so no.
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Apr 13, 2016 18:17
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thebushcommander posted:According to them scavenging isn't broken > 100% so no. So if I'm already over 100%, and I slap on two pieces of Nomad, am I even more hosed? Also, why are the sets so underwhelming? Seems like the only thing they have going for them is the gearscore is higher. Putting on three pieces of Striker that are all worse in every way (stats, armor, no talents) seems like I'd get kind of hosed for a somewhat marginal benefit. Am I missing something or does Massive not know how to incentivize using sets?
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Apr 13, 2016 18:50
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thebushcommander posted:Watched a dude roll 3 HiE First Wave M1A's yesterday the first two were poo poo and then he rolled one with like 10 below the max dmg roll and Balanced / Brutal / Stable Pretty sure he quit the game after that because it was like the best roll you'll ever see. When he tested it out in DZ he was headshot critting dudes for 2 million dmg or something ridiculous. Pre patch I blew 300 weapon parts on vectors and never saw 2 dmg talents. I use a Midas because it's better than any vector RNG ever gave me.
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Apr 13, 2016 18:51
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eSporks posted:That's what is bumming me out, I'm also going to be vastly inferior to someone with more luck or a larger sock than me. My 72 div tech never saw balanced with a damage talent. Best I got was balanced/stable but its still nothing compared to that dudes roll. I finally got Self-Preserved on the 16th (yes, you read that right!) Vector I rolled. The other perks were garbage.... 
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Apr 13, 2016 18:56
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Well now you can still not get useful guns as a drop, and to balance that you also can't craft them.
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Apr 13, 2016 18:59
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Chasiubao posted:So if I'm already over 100%, and I slap on two pieces of Nomad, am I even more hosed? I have no idea really on scavenging, I was just relaying a response from a community dev in a twitch stream last week. I've only got like 89% scav and that's as high as I have gotten to so far. I am a lowly filthy 60hrs played casual though because videos games aren't my life. As far as I can TELL set items have the ability to roll similar stats all around to normal HiE gear that was level 31 before whatever GS that was it's all up to RNG and I think that is from hard mode incursions (191 GS items) Challenging mode (204GS) should be better of course, but again rng can gently caress ya. The comparisons might be wrong though, not sure what they're supposed to equate to on yellows, plus if you factor in the set bonuses it should outweigh individual gear talents high ends had before.. even though they nerfed Striker set before it even came out 
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Apr 13, 2016 19:06
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thebushcommander posted:I have no idea really on scavenging, I was just relaying a response from a community dev in a twitch stream last week. I've only got like 89% scav and that's as high as I have gotten to so far. I am a lowly filthy 60hrs played casual though because videos games aren't my life. I'm not going to go back and find the link, but some Reddit sperg apparently did two 500-chest trials for just shy of 100% scav, and ~130% scav. Based on his data (assuming it's actually legit), scavenging is indeed broken. Maybe they stealth-patched it, maybe they didn't. Either way, Massive has hosed up enough that it's inadvisable to believe what they say without some secondary form of verification.
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Apr 13, 2016 19:13
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LuciferMorningstar posted:I'm not going to go back and find the link, but some Reddit sperg apparently did two 500-chest trials for just shy of 100% scav, and ~130% scav. Based on his data (assuming it's actually legit), scavenging is indeed broken. Maybe they stealth-patched it, maybe they didn't. Either way, Massive has hosed up enough that it's inadvisable to believe what they say without some secondary form of verification. Yeah, I saw that posted here before...so who knows You know what I've always wondered? When you get set on fire why can't you just do a tacticool roll and stop the burn? Ya know, Stop. Drop. and Roll. rather than patting your shoulder trying to put the fire out? Edit: Could be worse, apparently Xbone players characters are being deleted after upgrading to 1.1...stupid console newbs..get a PC thebushcommander fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Apr 13, 2016 |
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thebushcommander posted:Edit: Could be worse, apparently Xbone players characters are being deleted after upgrading to 1.1...stupid console newbs..get a PC Too bad KFBR is on a probation. I'm missing his hot takes.
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Apr 13, 2016 19:22
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Wow, this laggy piece of poo poo is unplayable on PS4.
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Apr 13, 2016 19:26
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At least on PC i can watch a hacker kill me with a helicopter at a smooth, natural 60 fps
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Apr 13, 2016 19:31
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LuciferMorningstar posted:Too bad KFBR is on a probation. I'm missing his hot takes. He probably rage quit to DS3 after his character got deleted accidentally on purpose.
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Apr 13, 2016 19:31
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thebushcommander posted:Edit: Could be worse, apparently Xbone players characters are being deleted after upgrading to 1.1...stupid console newbs..get a PC They came out and said this was a server issue and cage-free egghead fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Apr 13, 2016 |
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Apr 13, 2016 19:31
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Lblitzer posted:They came out and said this was a server issue and have fixed it. I would looooove to hear what the fix was. "Uhhhhh Bob, we have backups of the player files from before the patch, right?"
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Apr 13, 2016 19:33
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Cyrano4747 posted:I would looooove to hear what the fix was. Apparently a corrupted server. It corrupted the saves so when the client went looking for them, all it found was the corrupted one so it went "whelp, nothing there I guess!". Its not fixed yet, it'll be fixed after a yet unannounced server reset.
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Apr 13, 2016 19:36
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Snuffman posted:a yet unannounced server reset maybe that'll fix longass loading times too 
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Apr 13, 2016 19:43
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thebushcommander posted:According to them scavenging isn't broken > 100% so no. Do you know exactly what was said here? There's so much misinformation and non-information about scavenging out there that I don't even know what's actually true. From personal experience though, I've had scavenging up to 141% and have not really had good luck with yellows dropping pre-patch. The yellow drop rate must be so tiny that a 0 to 200% variance on top of that doesn't amount to much. If it indeed resets after 100%, then it'll be pretty annoying to re-arrange some scavenging gear and mods, argh. I don't even know if it's worth bothering with it now, maybe just for HE division tech and that's it. Rearranging gear is annoying enough as it is since I have to equip my lovely but high GS stuff so pubbies won't kick you immediately. Then after awhile, I can safely switch to my lower GS but better rolled armor and purple M1A.
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Apr 13, 2016 19:48
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quote:From now on killing a named NPC will grant you a guaranteed High-End drop! That’s right, you will now always get a High-End item from killing a named NPC of level 30+. The gear score of said High-End will be determined by the level of the NPC. For example, a level 30 named will guarantee a gear score 163 High-End. Lmao so misleading. The little shits.
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Apr 13, 2016 20:04
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Yikes. I was going to check in to see if it was still such a ridiculous loot-grind (consistently lower-level purpz in the DZ, getting capped by Players with much better gear or a mob of 4-5 of them on lil solo me) that made me start playing Warframe or if the patch made it worthwhile to play again. I guess I'll check on Destiny. Edit: What is the loot gear number you need for Incursions of Challenging missions now?
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Apr 13, 2016 20:06
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Egg Poacher posted:Lmao so misleading. The little shits. How is that misleading at all. That seems extremely straight forward.
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Apr 13, 2016 20:14
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Bought this yesterday for $40 and I don't know why. I played in beta and was bored by the end of it, so I don't know why I thought that maybe the final game would be better. My chief complaint was repetitiveness and welp, as expected, that didn't change at all. I'm loving stupid.
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Apr 13, 2016 20:17
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Dexo posted:How is that misleading at all. Well, if you're being sincere... Because it would lead you to believe that a level 31 boss would guarantee an ilevel 31 (GS 182) drop and a level 32 boss would guarantee an ilevel 32 (GS 204) drop. The reality is tons of 163 items (from any DZ boss) and a few 182s.
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Constellation I posted:Do you know exactly what was said here? There's so much misinformation and non-information about scavenging out there that I don't even know what's actually true. Not exactly it was last week sometime. A dude asked what they were doing about Scav being broken if you were higher than 100% i.e. 140% is more like 40%... and the dude said something like as far as they know there isn't an issue with scavenging being broken. It's Ubisoft after all, so their answers are never straight to the point JUST in case something is actually broken because they don't test anything ever. Here's a question.. Has anyone gotten 182+ gear to drop from DZ bosses? Seems a lot of people are bitching that they only get 163GS items from them. Edit: I see this being discussed right above my post..gg
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thebushcommander posted:Here's a question.. Has anyone gotten 182+ gear to drop from DZ bosses? Seems a lot of people are bitching that they only get 163GS items from them. I've had 182 gear drop, but nothing higher. It doesn't seem that 204s even drop and so the only way to get 204 gear is to craft it.
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Hey man, it's cool. Remember when we said we didn't want you guys crafting your best gear? Well, here's GS 204 blueprints for an M1A and an Aug. Btw, good luck getting these to drop from named bosses. Have fun.
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Lets add the best gear in the darkzone, the most broken part of the game. Let also make them farm up level 75. Hackers love this.
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Apr 13, 2016 20:27
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Not to mention it appears aim assist is broken on PC after the patch and can now be used with a mouse/KB rather than just a controller.
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Apr 13, 2016 20:30
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thebushcommander posted:Not to mention it appears aim assist is broken on PC after the patch and can now be used with a mouse/KB rather than just a controller. this is as bad as 
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Apr 13, 2016 20:31
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Anyone figured out what the loot table for police academy is
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Bob NewSCART posted:Anyone figured out what the loot table for police academy is who cares you can't roll through the door anymore 
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