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alansmithee posted:I think I'd maybe want a way to fit in one more Anguished Unmaking to deal with enchantments/planeswalkers neatly. Already 3 in the 75, that is enough. Hell it might be too much. Ruinous path is probably a better card than putting anymore than 2 unmaking int he 75 but it is what I have decided on being so early in the season.
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Rimusutera posted:Since you were talking about story stuff I assumed you were judging the planes on their stories and flavour. Annihilator was kinda feel bad and so was infect, and like Phrexian mana is cool and powerful but ultimately a mistake. There's mechanical mistakes to all manner of sets. To me, the whole New Phyrexia thing is one of the best examples of how modern Magic takes a story arc with a lot of potential and shoots its legs out from under it by orphaning it in a block with nothing related to it for years on either side. The only sort of connected thing that I think we've seen since is Theros, and even there you really have to dig in order to realize that it's connected by the plot thread of Elspeth looking for help with Phyrexia. Of course, I suppose I should be careful what I wish for. "I wish Wizards would revisit their established storylines and do something with them..." *monkey paw finger curls up as Ulamog and Kozilek burn to death in the background*
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JerryLee posted:To me, the whole New Phyrexia thing is one of the best examples of how modern Magic takes a story arc with a lot of potential and shoots its legs out from under it by orphaning it in a block with nothing related to it for years on either side. The only sort of connected thing that I think we've seen since is Theros, and even there you really have to dig in order to realize that it's connected by the plot thread of Elspeth looking for help with Phyrexia. I'm actually not sure how that wasn't the foreseeable conclusion nor am I sure why it's particularly unsatisfactory aside from a literal interpretation of the simplified form. I'm more sad that they killed off Slobad  .
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mcmagic posted:Anyone playing the invitational this weekend? I have 4 people in my area just begging for borrows on Avacyn. They're running 4 in each of their decks. The invitational is gonna be just 5 mana held up all day everyday.
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keeblerdrow posted:I have 4 people in my area just begging for borrows on Avacyn. They're running 4 in each of their decks. The invitational is gonna be just 5 mana held up all day everyday. Grasp of Darkness seems good. BTW I think 4 Avacyn is strictly wrong, in any deck. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Apr 14, 2016 |
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mcmagic posted:Grasp of Darkness seems good. BTW I think 4 Avacyn is strictly wrong, in any deck. I agree. 3 leaves a dead card in your hand often enough to notice. 4 would make it a lot worse. A 5 drop leaves plenty of draws and opportunities to find one where 4x is just silly.
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So I got the Horrrific Visions deck and a deck builder's toolkit. Both of which youtube said aren't the best value. Where do I go from here if I want to make a decent, low cost standard deck?
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Injuryprone posted:So I got the Horrrific Visions deck and a deck builder's toolkit. Both of which youtube said aren't the best value. Where do I go from here if I want to make a decent, low cost standard deck? Buy singles of the cards you need for a specific deck.
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Injuryprone posted:So I got the Horrrific Visions deck and a deck builder's toolkit. Both of which youtube said aren't the best value. Where do I go from here if I want to make a decent, low cost standard deck? Mono White or GW humans is pretty cheap...
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Injuryprone posted:So I got the Horrrific Visions deck and a deck builder's toolkit. Both of which youtube said aren't the best value. Where do I go from here if I want to make a decent, low cost standard deck? http://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/standard#paper Watch this link over the next few weeks. It is kind of a mess right now, but the point is to look at decks you find interesting that also come in your price range.
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Sickening posted:This is what I have decided on this weekend. W/B is the new Abzan two weeks into the new standard
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Sickening posted:Already 3 in the 75, that is enough. Hell it might be too much. Ruinous path is probably a better card than putting anymore than 2 unmaking int he 75 but it is what I have decided on being so early in the season. That's fair, I missed the one in the sideboard. I'm just wondering how much always watching/cryptolith rites will be showing up and having a way to deal with them seems good (or comedy goggles). Also how has dead weight been in testing? I've not played with it but it seems really limited in use, especially with all the 2/3s running around. Although I guess that at least neuters them from attacking.
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alansmithee posted:That's fair, I missed the one in the sideboard. I'm just wondering how much always watching/cryptolith rites will be showing up and having a way to deal with them seems good (or comedy goggles). That is a good question. Dead weight makes the curve work better and is one of the best cards against the humans menace. It helps if you need to go two turns in a row with a tapped land. I don't mind putting it on a 2/3 , even in decks with d-command. Whatever stalls the board long enough to take control. It will probably be dropped when the meta slows down more.
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Sickening posted:http://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/standard#paper Watch this link over the next few weeks. It is kind of a mess right now, but the point is to look at decks you find interesting that also come in your price range. Thanks!!
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Here is a $20 Standard deck that got 3rd in a day 0 IQ http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/399751#paper and it has Weapons Trainer
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Apr 14, 2016 23:03
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More importantly, 4 Bone Saws.
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I'm playing a sweet black white deck that consistently gets blown out by a blue white boumce brew. Rip.
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Boco_T posted:Here is a $20 Standard deck that got 3rd in a day 0 IQ I feel the 10 card sideboard is pretty bold too
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Weapons Trainer seems like a fine card. It's a 3/2 for 2 with a lord effect and two relevant creature types. It's the full playset of mediocre five drops in an aggro deck that makes my eyebrows wiggle.
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A good article. http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/magic-history-art-of-darkness-with-jesper-myrfors
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Voyager I posted:Weapons Trainer seems like a fine card. It's a 3/2 for 2 with a lord effect and two relevant creature types. Because your team of double striking, life linking, menacing, suited up killers is how you win.
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GoutPatrol posted:Because your team of double striking, life linking, menacing, suited up killers is how you win. Right, but the issue is that it's an otherwise fairly aggressive curveout deck that can already give its team first strike which then jams in a full quartet of five drops at the top of its mana curve. You won't be able to cast them early on and if you get two of them stuck in your first ten cards or so you probably lose the game. It's probably be better of with Bushwhackers to close out the games, and maybe another Firemantle Mage because its effect is pretty relevant. Lantern Scouts can go to the sideboard for aggro mirrors since this deck won't care about its life total most of the time. Like really how the hell do you put four Bonesaws in a deck and then not put in four Bushwhackers. Voyager I fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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GoutPatrol posted:Because your team of double striking, life linking, menacing, suited up killers is how you win. have fun with 4xresolute blademaster when you get stuck on 3-4 lands for multiple turns in your 22 land deck, or your opponent plays removal spells and you only have like 1 guy when you get to 5 mana, or getting languished on 4/flaying tendrilsed on 3 this deck is doing a couple of powerful/interesting things but none of those are 4xresolute blademaster Elyv fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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Elyv posted:have fun with resolute with 4xresolute blademaster when you get stuck on 3-4 lands for multiple turns in your 22 land deck, or your opponent plays removal spells and you only have like 1 guy when you get to 5 mana, or getting languished on 4/flaying tendrilsed on 3 Buy Elyv it got 3rd in a tournament so it must be correct! 
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Elyv posted:have fun with 4xresolute blademaster when you get stuck on 3-4 lands for multiple turns in your 22 land deck, or your opponent plays removal spells and you only have like 1 guy when you get to 5 mana, or getting languished on 4/flaying tendrilsed on 3 It's there for the same reason overrun would show up in budget green aggro decks. Considering the deck is $20 I'm curious as to what you would seap in at that price point to push through to the finish instead.
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Reckless Bushwhacker is the obvious answer, but I'd also settle for literally anything an aggro deck could reliably cast before turn seven or not running four of them.
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I posted about a bunch of xwing stuff I have for sale in the xwing thread. I only mention it because there's a pretty good amount of crossover.
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i just feel that $20 deck scoops the first time it sees a languish, it just looks like it really needs some type of heavy hitter as an anchor e: actually sideboard in a few eerie interludes that should help it.
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You're already playing Forge and Ally Encampment, time for Warping Wail's time to shine!
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GoutPatrol posted:You're already playing Forge and Ally Encampment, time for Warping Wail's time to shine! it doesn't actually run forges, maybe once you learn the value of your life points you can start t8ing competitive events as well
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Voyager I posted:Reckless Bushwhacker is the obvious answer, but I'd also settle for literally anything an aggro deck could reliably cast before turn seven or not running four of them. I'm playing Reckless Bushwacker in modern. It's great.
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Yeah, in addition to being a powerful card Bushwacker has some natural synergy in that deck due to the Bonesaw interaction and it being an Ally.
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Pontius Pilate posted:Speaking of (paper) formats that got hot and then disappeared my friends and I finally put together some (paper) pauper decks and, yeah, this format is great. Buying a deck for $20 isn't bad either. I got u delver and they got b control and acid trip--what should my next deck be? I like tempo, combo, aggro, control, midrange in about that order. I know one of them is also planning on elves so outside of the decks we already have or will have sell me on your fav pauper deck. This is a couple pages back but I've recently moved from RUG Tron to a Jeskai Metalcraft list that's a lot of fun to me. Lots of neat little plays in it with all the effects that bounce permanents / artifacts and your Wellsprings/Prophetic Prims/Mulldrifter. Plus the ability to randomly burn the gently caress outta someone once your Galvanic Blasts are turned on, which is trivially easy most games. Having access to Journey to Nowhere is great too for Angler/Crusher/Fangren Maurader and the like.
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mcmagic posted:I'm playing Reckless Bushwacker in modern. It's great. In what sort of deck? I've been meaning to pick a few up for my Goblins list.
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C-Euro posted:In what sort of deck? I've been meaning to pick a few up for my Goblins list. Like a creature heavy Zoo/Burn deck.
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This isn't constructed viable, is it? Were big dumb walls (that don't cantrip) ever seriously playable?
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Rinkles posted:This isn't constructed viable, is it? It's tech against Prowler's Helm. In the wrong standard.
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