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Xandu posted:I don't know why Sanders fired his Jewish outreach coordinator for speaking out against Netanyahu given what he said tonight. Well even though he kind of said "gently caress Netanyahu" it's probably bad to have someone working in your campaign that's actually said it in public
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Vox Nihili posted:Hell, I could see Trump destroying the entire country over some perceived insult! Wall Street is just the beginning, friend. the only way to make america great again is to destroy it
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Apr 15, 2016 04:27
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fishmech posted:You shouldn't pretend that someone who literally gave up belief in public ownership of the means of production 40 years ago is close to socialist, unless you want to also claim Hillary as a socialist candidate.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:27
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ThndrShk2k posted:I'm surprised that Hillary got booed 5 or so times and Bernie didn't at all other than a half-boo until he finished his sentence I agree, Hillary supporters were much more classy
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Apr 15, 2016 04:27
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Daniel Bryan posted:I really don't mind Hillary on everything but Israel. Patriot Act? Death penalty?
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Apr 15, 2016 04:28
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ThndrShk2k posted:I'm surprised that Hillary got booed 5 or so times and Bernie didn't at all other than a half-boo until he finished his sentence Boos didn't make a drat difference for Trump. Tbh they should be held to the standard of the fall debates and have no applause at all.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:29
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fits my needs posted:No. There was literally a guy asking people for help on what he could buy for $20 at a grocery store that would last him for a week. Just FYI peanut butter is really calorie dense AFAIK. I'd be surprised if $20 worth wouldn't last a week.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:29
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Xandu posted:I don't know why Sanders fired his Jewish outreach coordinator for speaking out against Netanyahu given what he said tonight. Probably because, like all political campaigns, his is run by clowns.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:30
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Immortan posted:Hillary was actually good tonight. Can't believe I'm saying this. As a Sanders supporter, I knew what Sanders had to accomplish tonight and he blew it. I dont know if the vatican trip is to blame or Bernie being Bernie.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:32
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Joementum posted:Probably because, like all political campaigns, his is run by clowns. I really think his campaign suffered from having Hillary lock up a ton of the good people before he even started. Not that her people are universally competent by any means.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:32
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Daniel Bryan posted:Boos didn't make a drat difference for Trump. Well the R side is also a circus Usually Dem debates are a bit less vocal, but this is NY so 
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Tetracube posted:the only way to make america great again is to destroy it Everything that has a beginning has an end.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:33
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Vox Nihili posted:Patriot Act? Death penalty? The Patriot Act is a weird one. I haven't looked too hard into how she is on that kind of stuff. I think it's hard because privacy is of upmost importance to me but terrorists are also using that privacy to communicate and do bad things. Idk. I'd have to look up research on what is a good solution for that because I honestly don't know. The death penalty won't be solved by the president nor congress. Her stance is acceptable because federal crimes rarely end in execution and I think it's going to be either ended by a SC decision or state by state. Obviously I'd be happier if she advocated for it more but I don't find her position ridiculous given the circumstances. Daniel Bryan has issued a correction as of 04:36 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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Apr 15, 2016 04:33
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CheeseSpawn posted:As a Sanders supporter, I knew what Sanders had to accomplish tonight and he blew it. I dont know if the vatican trip is to blame or Bernie being Bernie. Not that easy... Clinton has some skills.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:34
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Spiros posted:What is the value in being pedantic about that? Let me introduce you to fishmech.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:35
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Postgame show interview for the Hillhawks rep, they keep dodging the transcripts things. CNN is bringing them up, keeping on saying they're hurting themselves And they keep talking about it  WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH CNN!?! 
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Apr 15, 2016 04:36
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Daniel Bryan posted:The Patriot Act is a weird one. I haven't looked too hard into how she is on that kind of stuff. I think it's hard because privacy is of upmost importance to me but terrorists are also using that privacy to communicate and do bad things. Idk. I'd have to look up research on what is a good solution for that because I honestly don't know. The President has a lot of power over federal criminal policy, though that is a small minority of cases. President can also commute sentences, etc. I think whether she would appoint a sufficiently liberal justice on the death penalty (and other topics) is an open question as well. I know Bernie would go as hard-left as possible, and the Republicans basically owe us a Justice of our choice if we win in November.
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ThndrShk2k posted:Postgame show interview for the Hillhawks rep, they keep dodging the transcripts things.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:38
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CheeseSpawn posted:As a Sanders supporter, I knew what Sanders had to accomplish tonight and he blew it.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:39
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i'm glad that trump steaks will be president
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Apr 15, 2016 04:41
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Congrats on actually watching CNN for the first time I actually watch it occasionally They usually don't have such a focus and the subtle bias they usually have has shifted to the middle more or even more to sanders in reporting the debate rather than blind "Hillary won  " most of the time that happened in the past
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Apr 15, 2016 04:42
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CheeseSpawn posted:As a Sanders supporter, I knew what Sanders had to accomplish tonight and he blew it. I dont know if the vatican trip is to blame or Bernie being Bernie. You saw glimpses of it with him trying that weird social security cap thing but then she just said 'no I'm actually not only now joining you I've been here a while now' and he had no counter. It's like he went into it expecting it to be some poo poo that didn't happen reddit post where she just breaks down and admits she's a fraud because he owned her so hard. He didn't have a plan for her saying 'no, that's not true'. Hey where's that creepy bernie poster that wanted Trump to 'break' Hillary or whatever and make her cry, maybe they coached him today.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:42
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You might as well get used to having 8 SCOTUS judges because even if a Dem wins they'll still stonewall any appointments to the best of their abilities.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:44
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logikv9 posted:i'm glad that trump steaks will be president "Trump Steaks are the world's greatest steaks and I mean that in every sense of the word."
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Apr 15, 2016 04:46
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I see a small chance of Clinton winning and them rushing to confirm Garland.
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tranime scholar posted:You might as well get used to having 8 SCOTUS judges because even if a Dem wins they'll still stonewall any appointments to the best of their abilities. which is still a liberal win in most cases, so it's in their favor to try and hope whatever compromise candidate pushed through is a secret conservative
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Apr 15, 2016 04:46
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tranime scholar posted:You might as well get used to having 8 SCOTUS judges because even if a Dem wins they'll still stonewall any appointments to the best of their abilities. Nah this is the one time Sanders' version of a 'revolution' where you just pray the republicans realize they hosed up works. Republicans are getting REALLY pissed at a tied court now that they remember that the rung before SCOTUS skews left.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:47
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Xandu posted:I see a small chance of Clinton winning and them rushing to confirm Garland. Obama will 100% yank Garland if he's still the nominee of choice in November.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:47
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Daniel Bryan posted:The death penalty won't be solved by the president nor congress. Her stance is acceptable because federal crimes rarely end in execution and I think it's going to be either ended by a SC decision or state by state. Obviously I'd be happier if she advocated for it more but I don't find her position ridiculous given the circumstances. Federal law sets a precedent. This also applied to mandatory minimums.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:48
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If Republicans had an iota of sense they'd just confirm Garland now and lock in a relatively moderate court. That's what they've got anyway with the 4-4 dealie.
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Apr 15, 2016 04:49
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lol the thread title is ironic because this debate may have pierced my skepticism w/r/t God
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Tatum Girlparts posted:You saw glimpses of it with him trying that weird social security cap thing but then she just said 'no I'm actually not only now joining you I've been here a while now' and he had no counter. It's like he went into it expecting it to be some poo poo that didn't happen reddit post where she just breaks down and admits she's a fraud because he owned her so hard. He didn't have a plan for her saying 'no, that's not true'. The biggest tell was Clinton owning Sanders on his own turf on the breaking up of the big banks. When Clinton mentioned living wills, it was clear she was paying attention this week. Sanders had a chance to clarify that NY interview but instead tripped and fell off a cliff.
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CheeseSpawn posted:The biggest tell was Clinton owning Sanders on his own turf on the breaking up of the big banks. When Clinton mentioned living wills, it was clear she was paying attention this week. Sanders had a chance to clarify that NY interview but instead tripped and fell off a cliff. Yea that was pretty rough too
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CheeseSpawn posted:The biggest tell was Clinton owning Sanders on his own turf on the breaking up of the big banks. When Clinton mentioned living wills, it was clear she was paying attention this week. Sanders had a chance to clarify that NY interview but instead tripped and fell off a cliff. I didn't get the debate on until late, how did this come up? e: I just found out the living will part, but i missed it in debate context
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Apr 15, 2016 04:52
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Bernie had plenty of warning of the bank attack angle, too. All he needed was a decent canned response. Not that it really matters anymore, but still!
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Apr 15, 2016 04:53
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Vox Nihili posted:If Republicans had an iota of sense they'd just confirm Garland now and lock in a relatively moderate court. That's what they've got anyway with the 4-4 dealie. it would be telling the whole political world that they believe that 2016 is not winnable, which is not a good thing for even the most doomed of campaigns
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Ego-bot posted:Same, but is there any US politician who doesn't have the same lovely opinions about this?
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Look Around You posted:I didn't get the debate on until late, how did this come up? http://time.com/4295548/democratic-debate-ninth-brooklyn-transcript-full-text/ Start with "BASH: Secretary Clint, the government announced yesterday that five of the biggest banks on Wall Street have failed to develop plans to dismantle themselves in the event of another financial crisis. This is the second time in two years those banks neglected to come up with credible plans. So, as president, would you call on regulators to start the process of breaking up these banks? Something that the law not only allows, but actually explicitly encourages?"
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logikv9 posted:it would be telling the whole political world that they believe that 2016 is not winnable, which is not a good thing for even the most doomed of campaigns The alternative is keeping up the charade like Romney/Rove^10 until the final hours and then getting crushed regardless. Maybe they still hope to get around the Trump/Cruz thing and pick Kasich or something, but even with a very lukewarm Hillary it's really tough to imagine good odds for the GOP.
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Vox Nihili posted:The alternative is keeping up the charade like Romney/Rove^10 until the final hours and then getting crushed regardless. Maybe they still hope to get around the Trump/Cruz thing and pick Kasich or something, but even with a very lukewarm Hillary it's really tough to imagine good odds for the GOP. i'd say wait until after the convention. there is always the shrinking chance that party unity will somehow prevail, and that they can actually start campaigning against clinton. if they leave the convention as hosed up as they are now, i wouldn't be surprised to hear Senator Turtle make an immediate 180 and start working towards Garland's confirmation.
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