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Pickup starts at 3%-4% of the total ammo, with the exception of special weapons and snipers. Nothing picks up as many bullets as a KSP or MG42 but I really don't have a problem maintaining ammo count with SMGs, though I do have to keep the Krinkov in single-fire most of the time. I almost always devote my second weapon slot to either explosives or the Thanatos.
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Dr Cheeto posted:Actually, yeah, I might have gotten that wrong. Still, all the movement penalties are dead, and that's great. I'm bringing 'em back for Death Vox.  They'll be milder than they used to be. The minigun will have about the same weight penalty as in the bad old days, unless you take the stubby half kit mod, in which case it'll be similar to the other LMGs.
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Discendo Vox posted:I'm bringing 'em back for Death Vox. What design goal does this actually fulfill?
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Dr Cheeto posted:What design goal does this actually fulfill? i want literally NO ONE to play my game NO ONE
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As a grinder fugimind, I use the Valk and a HE Judge so I can get the full concealment bonuses for Sneaky Bastard. Valk is great except for the clip size and HE Judge is amazing for crowd control in DW. Stun dozers and shields or just knock a room full of cops on their asses long enough for your teammates to recover/kill them. I focus more on survivability than pure cop killing though.
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That's sort of false binary; survivability is head-clicking. Can't take damage if there's no enemies on map. Mind you, we agree on the important bits, like "HE judge = yes"
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I saw a video earlier in the thread of an LMG shooting HE rounds what I want to know is, what mod is this? I really want to shoot explosions at 2000RPM
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Dr Cheeto posted:What design goal does this actually fulfill? Balance- they're too drat good, with no real downsides. They'd still get the massive ammo pickup and other benefits such as the why-on-earth-not bipod, and I'd also add full sight mod slot functionality, including a normal non-bipod ADS option for those who like whiplash. To curtail the immediate counterargument, yes, I'd be changing a few other weapons/weapon classes too:
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REALLY not seeing the problem with that
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I'd love the flamethrower to be even more absurdly good but do we really need more weapons that just straight up win the game for you?
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SymmetryrtemmyS posted:I saw a video earlier in the thread of an LMG shooting HE rounds It was probably the Goonmod Fireworks Mutator. Old version of NATO before the creator removed all gun mod stats works too.
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Edit: Jimmy's profile is up on the FBI site. It appears likely that the Russian enemies won't get their own entries. And there's a loving secret reference in his profile...watho posted:I don't think Dragon's Breath can be made usable because IIRC you can't make it activate Overkill without making the flamethrower also do so. I'm just planning to raise the DoT chance to 100% and increase the base damage to near normal ammo levels. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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UnknownMercenary posted:This is why the Micro Uzi with SMG Specialist Aced is objectively the best gun. uhhhhhh I think you mean the Akimbo Heathers with SMG Specialist Aced (I still haven't tried that and can't imagine the recoil)
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ClonedPickle posted:uhhhhhh I think you mean the Akimbo Heathers with SMG Specialist Aced The recoil is insane for 1/10th of the mag but after that the recoil stops completely. You still won't be able to hit anything because of the spread though.
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Streaming with some scrubs tonight at http://twitch.tv/apehecks come laugh at us some more.
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Discendo Vox posted:Edit: Jimmy's profile is up on the FBI site. It appears likely that the Russian enemies won't get their own entries. And there's a loving secret reference in his profile... I read the profile but I don't see the reference.
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clockworkjoe posted:I read the profile but I don't see the reference. It's a long story, but Deputy Callaghan was a troll on the steam forums that derailed the secret hunt for months.
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YET ANOTHER FAG posted:Streaming with some scrubs tonight at http://twitch.tv/apehecks come laugh at us some more. I wasn't up late enough to watch, but I hope you guys gave the audience what they wanted (tons of vulgar Pocorose spam).
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I'm not up to speed with all the Payday goon in-jokes - is Death Vox just one dude posting his insane fanfiction for how he'd like Payday 2 to be?
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Disgusting Coward posted:I'm not up to speed with all the Payday goon in-jokes - is Death Vox just one dude posting his insane fanfiction for how he'd like Payday 2 to be?
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Disgusting Coward posted:I'm not up to speed with all the Payday goon in-jokes - is Death Vox just one dude posting his insane fanfiction for how he'd like Payday 2 to be? Accuracy - 100
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I hope Payday 3 will be an Unreal Engine 4 game with data stored on servers and stealth like in older Thief and Splinter Cell games.
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I'd like it to not have player hosted matches. Lost DW Grin half a dozen times in the past few days because my spotter keeps getting caught by guards that were in a different place than he saw them. 
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Just keep your spotter in civvie mode and have them relay info over comms. They can't be detected.
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I suggested that once, he complained about not being able to mark things. His getting caught is the only real hurdle to us completing that heist in DW. Its one of the last ones for us to clear. Alesso being the other. Same issue there.
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Hobold posted:I suggested that once, he complained about not being able to mark things. His getting caught is the only real hurdle to us completing that heist in DW. Its one of the last ones for us to clear. Alesso being the other. Same issue there. Edit: In general, in case you wonder, Golden Grin is significantly simpler than Alesso. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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There's some interesting stuff in there. The Gunslinger tree will make pistols even stronger, although it does kind of suck if you wanted to use a pistol sidearm and something not akimbo for your primary, because Gun Play isn't really needed anymore. Relentless tree seems really good at not-dying and I expect to see a lot of people acing Nine Lives and acing Up You Go even if the rest of their points are spent in other trees. The Brawler tree does not look very good, but Bloodthirst is a neat idea, at least.
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Frenzy was the secret sauce they needed to make berserker appealing. Trigger happy as a top-tier skill is pretty  considering how terrible it is. Maybe they'll change it so you don't lose all your stacks when you miss a shot.
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Holy poo poo that brawler tree  Geight posted:The Brawler tree does not look very good, but Bloodthirst is a neat idea, at least. Imagine playing it with the yakuza tree or sociopath and suddenly you're a monster and you start out and stay that way.
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I hadn't played this game in well over a year and reinstalled it last night. I popped back in and started futzing around trying to remember all the details and might have hosed up. So it looks like there are Perks now - I used all my points on Maniac but didn't really understand what I was doing, I don't see an option to respec Perks, am I SOL?
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hellfaucet posted:I hadn't played this game in well over a year and reinstalled it last night. I popped back in and started futzing around trying to remember all the details and might have hosed up. So it looks like there are Perks now - I used all my points on Maniac but didn't really understand what I was doing, I don't see an option to respec Perks, am I SOL? Yeah you are for now but don't sweat it. Perk points build up fast. We'll roll through some poo poo together tonight.
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Regeneration decks seem like they'll have powerful synergy with Frenzy ace, you're effectively trading some EHP for a 60% boost in effective regeneration. Infiltrator + Frenzy ace means you could regenerate two-thirds of your health with a single melee attack every 10 seconds. Grinder could be back to wading into assault waves without giving a gently caress about cops.
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hellfaucet posted:I hadn't played this game in well over a year and reinstalled it last night. I popped back in and started futzing around trying to remember all the details and might have hosed up. So it looks like there are Perks now - I used all my points on Maniac but didn't really understand what I was doing, I don't see an option to respec Perks, am I SOL? Maniac is pretty good, actually. You should finish it so you can enjoy its full benefits (including a XP buff!) before moving on to the next one.
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