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MaxxBot posted:I've never even heard of a 30GB data plan, I don't know which carrier you have but that doesn't sound like the basic data plan that those regular users would have in the first place. I have Verizon for example and the basic data plan is a mere 2GB which would be exhausted in a very short time if you were streaming video or even downloading podcasts. Also when traveling through the city here in Minneapolis there are all sorts of weird dead spots or slow spots in the cell service, I often have to switch over to some random Wifi network. Verizon's 30gb data plan is around $250/mo. The kind of plan that costs as much as a car payment is "average" apparently.
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computer parts posted:And how many people does this effect? I know it covers most of the Dakotas (geographically). We looked at moving outside of town to a much smaller town. Our only options out there were dsl and satellite. Granted, century link has some pretty decent speed (good enough to stream, probably not good enough to be top ranked in CoD), but there is only one cable provider in the eastern half of the state (midcontinent...And golden West, which uses cable run by midco). You have four options for tv....midco, dish, directv, or antenna. For internet it's midco, century link, or 4g. There are even whole swaths of places where you can *only* get 4g, they don't even have dsl. Admittedly, it's all ranch land, but it's almost a third of the state geographically. And 4g out here is A) not even fast enough to really stream on, and b) capped worse than most cell phone plans. At least there is now obamanet to go with our obamaphone. $10/mo for unlimited 25mbs down.
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It'll make checking birth certificates outside bathrooms a hell of a lot easier with an army of fat, white Templars.
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computer parts posted:How many people? I'm talking about actual availability. Not everyone may want the highest speeds, but "internet access able to meet the federal definition of broadband" is something that should be available if you want it. I can't get it where I live, in fact - no plan offered meets the 3mbit upload, even $150/month super-premium. Unfortunately, the official FCC broadband coverage marks an entire zipcode good if even one house can get it, so the actual decent provider in the center of town makes our entire area wired. This is the site, and I was wrong, it's not zipcode it's census block. It doesn't appear to have been updated with the new ruling either, it defines broadband as 768/256k DSL. Tons of horror stories about finding your neighbor across the street can get much better service than you because ~~~reasons~~~. The big killer though is old apartment buildings in ancient areas - internet monopoly blames landlord, landlord gives exactly zero shits and doesn't push back, no service (or hilariously awful sub-megabit service) My dad's stuck in an area like that - due to the subdevelopment having their own micro-cable monopoly and incredibly old copper, he can't get cable internet and the DSL tops out at 750k or so. He's gotten on the HOA specifically to destroy the non-profitable micro-cable business and get a real provider in.
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Harik posted:I'm talking about actual availability. Not everyone may want the highest speeds, but "internet access able to meet the federal definition of broadband" is something that should be available if you want it. I can't get it where I live, in fact - no plan offered meets the 3mbit upload, even $150/month super-premium. Yeah I am talking about actual availability. Going by that map, unless you live in the Census defined Rural areas you're going to have access to DOCSIS-3.0 aka fast cable internet. AA is for Quitters posted:I know it covers most of the Dakotas (geographically). We looked at moving outside of town to a much smaller town. Our only options out there were dsl and satellite. Strange since they have the infrastructure built.
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Actually reading the law it makes the church security member immune from Civil liability. Section 1, Subsection 3 posted:(3) A person who is indicted or charged with a violation of criminal law while acting as a member of a security program of a church or place of worship may assert as a defense, in addition to any other defense available, that at the time of the action in question, the person was a member of a church body or place of worship security program, was then actually engaged in the performance of the person's duties as a member of the program, and had met the requirements of this section at the time of the action in question. Luckily they can only carry stun guns, concealed pistols or revolvers and must have the state issued license on them while on duty. If they don't: Section 2, Subsection 1, subsection (b) posted:A violation of the provisions of this paragraph (b) shall constitute a noncriminal violation with a penalty of Twenty-five Dollars ($25.00) and shall be enforceable by summons Thank god for that check and balance. Not to mention a person that has violated any drug law or two alcohol related laws in a three year period may not be issued a license. That said it is a super lovely law that will be abused to commit racist acts, religious coercion, or even worse. What if an entire town is declared a constituted religious society and its citizens the congregation of the duly elected ecclesiastical body? Can that even be done?
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RuanGacho posted:I'm having a hard time imagining any scenario that doesn't involve that old southpark episode meme They're comin' right fer us! In which these people don't somehow gun down a bus full of Mexican children. It does if you see a.) Good Guys with Guns as arbiters of justice and b.) Christianity is under attack in America as per conservative talk radio and needs to be defended with extreme prejudice. A lot of this poo poo makes no sense if you just stick to your viewpoint but a lot more sense if you try imagine the world from the perspective of a Freeper and the like.
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If these church defenders aren't in full plate or chain armor and using maces I'm sorry but I can't take it seriously.
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I want to say that the medieval Church forbade use of weapons inside churches on pain of excommunication, but I can't find a reference at the moment.
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computer parts posted:Yeah I am talking about actual availability. Going by that map, unless you live in the Census defined Rural areas you're going to have access to DOCSIS-3.0 aka fast cable internet. This is what I attempted to beat into your thick skull: SOMEONE in a census block has modern internet. It doesn't mean that YOU do. Literally a single person with a cablemodem that happens to be right on the edge of a block makes the entire block "connected". It's a real problem because the infrastructure is so spotty in places. Some areas, sure, the entire county has good internet availability. Others it's just a few gated communities.
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Stultus Maximus posted:I want to say that the medieval Church forbade use of weapons inside churches on pain of excommunication, but I can't find a reference at the moment. According in D&D it was only bladed weapons and that's good enough for me. 
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I'm gunna be honest the whole thing with ISPs is pure grade bullshit until it's all symmetrical download and upload. My sci fi future doesn't have end user agreements that I can't dispense data to peers because it might make the ISPs have to provide a comprehensive service.
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Harik posted:This is what I attempted to beat into your thick skull: SOMEONE in a census block has modern internet. It doesn't mean that YOU do. Literally a single person with a cablemodem that happens to be right on the edge of a block makes the entire block "connected". It's a real problem because the infrastructure is so spotty in places. Some areas, sure, the entire county has good internet availability. Others it's just a few gated communities. By far the majority of the time this isn't happening though. Because census blocks are explicitly designed to group together similar situations, and to cover very small populations. It's also worth pointing out: if you're living in similarly nowhere rural environments in other countries you're similar going to have lovely access.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:I think there's some black church in Arkansas that got burnt exactly for doing this back in the 20s The Elaine Massacre? That was a labor union thing piled on top of a race thing, although it did start with a shootout outside a church. Encyclopedia of Arkansas posted:From this point forward, two versions of what occurred at Elaine exist. The white leaders put forward their view that black residents had been about to revolt. E. M. Allen, a planter and real estate developer who became the spokesman for Phillips County's white power structure, told the Helena World on October 7, “The present trouble with the Negroes in Phillips County is not a race riot. It is a deliberately planned insurrection of the Negroes against the whites directed by an organization known as the ‘Progressive Farmers and Household Union of America,’ established for the purpose of banding Negroes together for the killing of white people.”
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Harik posted:This is what I attempted to beat into your thick skull: SOMEONE in a census block has modern internet. It doesn't mean that YOU do. Literally a single person with a cablemodem that happens to be right on the edge of a block makes the entire block "connected". It's a real problem because the infrastructure is so spotty in places. Some areas, sure, the entire county has good internet availability. Others it's just a few gated communities. And you haven't proven this, you've given an anecdote.
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Radish posted:If these church defenders aren't in full plate or chain armor and using maces I'm sorry but I can't take it seriously. If they had any real faith they'd boldly face the terrifying blacks/Muslims without any physical protection, secure in their faith. Say what you will about rural Pentacostalism, they at least truely believe in the power of the Holy Spirit. Once you've drunk the poison and handled the viper, what's a 9mm got for you?
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Radish posted:If these church defenders aren't in full plate or chain armor and using maces I'm sorry but I can't take it seriously. Anyone who isn't using THAC0 is a heretic and will be purged
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computer parts posted:
http://dakotacarrier.com/network-maps/ they really don't though[/url] Unless you're in a larger city you're not going to see fiber in most of the state of North Dakota. South Dakota is even worse, since most of the middle of the state is all rez, and no one gives a gently caress about providing any services to the rez. It's sad that around here there are youth groups that have done mission trips to pine ridge, and said that the infrastructure there is worse than the infrastructure in haiti and Guatemala. Dr Jankenstein fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Apr 16, 2016 |
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computer parts posted:And you haven't proven this, you've given an anecdote. official FCC broadband map posted:What does the list of broadband providers in this area mean? So I actually overstated it a bit - they don't actually have to provide service to a single household in the census block, just report it as part of their coverage. That's why the 1gbit fiber provider listed so prominently at the top of my search for my address doesn't service my street - or indeed anywhere that's not in a specific subdivision.
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Edit: WTF? I refreshed three times and my post was gone, so I recovered and tried again, and now it shows up? Obviously the fault of my lovely broadband.  fishmech posted:By far the majority of the time this isn't happening though. Because census blocks are explicitly designed to group together similar situations, and to cover very small populations. As pointed out before, it only takes 99% coverage to leave 4 million Americans without. Dead-zones inside cities are not some imaginary thing, there's always tons of horror stories on DSLreports about people trying to get a connection in the middle of town. I'll be clearer on my own situation - I can get cable, (or maybe DSL) but not the good fiber. I've got 30/3 which is only really bad on the upload side when I want to send video to facebook or youtube. Harik fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Apr 16, 2016 |
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Lemming posted:Anyone who isn't using THAC0 is a heretic and will be purged Save vs rod/staff/wand. 
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Harik posted:As pointed out before, it only takes 99% coverage to leave 4 million Americans without. Dead-zones inside cities are not some imaginary thing, there's always tons of horror stories on DSLreports about people trying to get a connection in the middle of town. Yeah that's what happens when 19% of the country lives in the remaining 95% of the country's land mass. Also dead-zones inside cities are increasingly rare (less than 1% of the nationwide city population, and mostly concentrated in less dense cities). I know people who live in London, UK who had to wait over a year to get broadband internet installed to their flat in the past year, and people living out on farms in Germany that have to rely on their cell phones for connectivity still in 2016. America isn't special in how there's missed connectivity, and frankly 100% connectivity is going to be impossible unless we choose to pretend that Satellite and Cellular connections are "good enough" to count.
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fishmech posted:100% connectivity is going to be impossible unless we choose to pretend that Satellite and Cellular connections are "good enough" to count. Which I believe Finland (or whoever put broadband in their "list of human rights") does.
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computer parts posted:Which I believe Finland (or whoever put broadband in their "list of human rights") does. Their definition for purposes of that also deems 1 megabit service to qualify, on top.
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Harik posted:Edit: WTF? I refreshed three times and my post was gone, so I recovered and tried again, and now it shows up? Obviously the fault of my lovely broadband. I've had my Verizon phone calls go dead across the street from the World Trade Center, which is also across the street from Verizon headquarters I believe.
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Radish posted:If these church defenders aren't in full plate or chain armor and using maces I'm sorry but I can't take it seriously. the last thing I want is one of these nimrods to learn Hold Person
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Radish posted:If these church defenders aren't in full plate or chain armor and using maces I'm sorry but I can't take it seriously. drat. This is what those Knights of Columbus have been planning all along carrying their swords around this whole time, isn't it?
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I'm pretty sure cults will love to hear about this so they can make their armed compound perfectly legal. Guess Mississippi wants to attract the likes of Scientology to become their new state government or allow Jehovah Witnesses to enforce Disfellowship with guns.
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Hey I have a stupid question. I recently learned that this year is the year that a species of cicada that sleep for 17 years wakes up. Ohio already had it's primary, but Pennsylvania and West Virginia are happening later. Are there any studies/predictions on how primary people might vote when notable natural events happen?
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PhazonLink posted:Hey I have a stupid question. I don't believe anyone has demonstrated a correlation between cicada emergence events and election results, no.
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PhazonLink posted:Hey I have a stupid question. I'm going to guess not, since primaries only happen every four years (contentious primaries are even less common) and the odds of a rare natural event coinciding with one wouldn't get you a very good sample size.
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PhazonLink posted:Hey I have a stupid question. You should do that study yourself, become the Nate Silver of fascinatingly weird link-drawing. Get candidates bickering about whether the debate should fall before or after the peak of bullfrog mating season.
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So I shouldn't worry that fundies somehow get an amazing turnout(and somehow convince non fundies in Nov) because this is "sign from god to vote for ______". Sorry for Arzying.
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PhazonLink posted:So I shouldn't worry that fundies somehow get an amazing turnout(and somehow convince non fundies in Nov) because this is "sign from god to vote for ______". Fundies already vote. There is no Silent Majority.
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Crabtree posted:I'm pretty sure cults will love to hear about this so they can make their armed compound perfectly legal. Guess Mississippi wants to attract the likes of Scientology to become their new state government or allow Jehovah Witnesses to enforce Disfellowship with guns. Well, that does make this moderately less funny. Let's see. Text of bill: http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/documents/2016/pdf/HB/0700-0799/HB0786SG.pdf quote:The governing body of any church or place of Requirements of the security program: A) participants must be licensed and have passed a safety training course (the latter of which strikes me as Big Government Tyranny); B) a list of security That's it. So yeah, I foresee some very creative use of this statute. Edit: oh and the security thing is also a criminal defense under the same conditions as above. Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Apr 16, 2016 |
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:You should do that study yourself, become the Nate Silver of fascinatingly weird link-drawing. Get candidates bickering about whether the debate should fall before or after the peak of bullfrog mating season. If I did the math right, the last time it happened was 68 years ago, so it was 1948 and Truman won a hotly contested reelection, so he might be on to something
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Quorum posted:I don't believe anyone has demonstrated a correlation between cicada emergence events and election results, no. What the gently caress are we even paying these nerds to do? Play Galaga on their calculator watches???
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quote:A Republican pushing a law to ban trans women from bathrooms in Tennessee is himself being treated as a danger to women, and has been put in seclusion because of alleged harassment of female lawmakers. http://www.advocate.com/politicians/2016/4/11/cosponsor-tennessees-transphobic-bill-accused-sexual-harassment *dies laughing*
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Because it's always hilarious to watch Bill O'Reilly and the rest of the Fox folks be flabbergasted by facts from their own network: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiKPKGENLww&t=5s The look on his face at like 53 seconds. Kokoro Wish fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Apr 16, 2016 |
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PhazonLink posted:Hey I have a stupid question. I find it highly unlikely that someone doesn't have a list of odd natural phenomena and their correlation with elections. We get scads of uselessass correlations every cycle. For instance, no Samuel Clemens who worked on a riverboat has ever won political office in a year of a Halley's Comet passing.
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