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lazorexplosion posted:What the Christ how many other Adelaide goons are there? I still can't believe Sandi went to UniSA. That hit a little too close to home.
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Lladre posted:Hello from page 3279. I hope all is well. This thread moves at a pace faster than I can juggle. Nice post you piece of human garbage
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kikkelivelho posted:look STIMSIS I get what you're saying but you're wasting your effort posts on this thread. Derek has had 10 months of time to brainwash the posters in this thread with his undeniably strong charisma. Most of them would still support Derek even if he turned out to be Hitler himself (who btw was universally recognized to be a good leader). I died.   
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Danknificent posted:I think the takeaway here is that games journalism is in a really bad place. I dunno, I took Jeff Gerstmann's comments on the state of the "writing about games" industry as informed and heartfelt; they basically boiled down to "for a long time, people were just excited to play games for a living, loved games, and got excited easily. Playing free games. Furthermore, once the 7/10 being "average" thing took hold, it was hard to give realistic scores." Hence GB's move away from reviews and especially the 10 or 100 point system. There was stuff about being blacklisted by corporations you need the cooperation of to have a job, the industry mostly moving away from accepting "swag" or being taken on trips and other type of poo poo. It didn't even really sound like that stuff bought them reviews as much as good will. Then again, the main reason I post this is because a lot of criticism sounds like the old "it's about ethics in journalism" poo poo. There's a lot of people who write about the games industry and review games, but aren't pretending that they are going for awards. Much less aspiring to Woodward and Bernstein. I don't think very many of them see themselves as watchdogs at all, and for good reason. It's about ethics in being realistic about people who get paid to write about videogames. gently caress reviews and publications, just watch people who play games and tape their initial reactions. Like Giant Bomb. JainDoh fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Apr 17, 2016 |
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TheLastRoboKy posted:Honestly the funniest thing about that Vox Day thing outside of how hard it made everyone here squirm, was someone who watched it wrote how according to Vox Day Chris Roberts had already talked to him (Vox) about getting him on board with AI stuff but he declined. Exactly. In fact, I have the stream in my archives. I am on my iPad atm and don't have access to it, or I'd have posted it. People and their revisionist history.
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Basically what I'm saying is that "games journalist" in sneer quotes is basically the same type of horseshit as using 'ess jay dub' as an unironic insult. Find more productive poo poo to be an rear end in a top hat about.
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Jon Do posted:Basically what I'm saying is that "games journalist" in sneer quotes is basically the same type of horseshit as using 'ess jay dub' as an unironic insult. Find more productive poo poo to be an rear end in a top hat about. Hey man, I just look at the steam user review percentage. If it's too low I walk away. As a consumer, that's all the games journalism I need. Simplicity, boys. Like Henry David Thoreau.
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D_Smart posted:What most people still try to ignore, is that Vox Day goes way back in the industry with Chris and a bunch of us from back in the day. Did he design any games that people actually gave a poo poo about? (No.) Justifying your association with Teddy Beale as if he were somehow a meaningful figure in the gaming industry is a really weird conversational gambit to take, Derek. How was he ever relevant, in your opinion? Or is this just a case of "he technically existed in the industry and I crossed paths on more than one occasion", rather than the implication that he somehow mattered to the industry as a whole? The man is a kind of inverse lighthouse beacon; once you know where he stands you can be absolutely certain of where the majority opinion isn't. It's not just because he's so personally intolerable, but he doesn't even have the decency of having a compelling argument on his side from time to time to keep things interesting. The sad truth of the matter is, he's uninspired and boring, and would be a lot more tolerable if he were at least interesting or original in anything he does.
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Jon Do posted:"To be successful, you first must look successful" Croberts has said things like, oh you can become so rich and powerful you can have your own private asteroid. Like the Trump Asteroid? What is this poo poo? Even if it ever comes out (it won't) it doesn't sound appealing at all lmao. But that's a matter of personal taste. Jon Do posted:Basically what I'm saying is that "games journalist" in sneer quotes is basically the same type of horseshit as using 'ess jay dub' as an unironic insult. Find more productive poo poo to be an rear end in a top hat about. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Apr 17, 2016 |
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Danknificent posted:Hey man, I just look at the steam user review percentage. If it's too low I walk away. As a consumer, that's all the games journalism I need. I'm not denying that the majority of people who write about games don't actually give you an informed decision about purchases -- it's more that the whole "ugh, corrupt motherfuckers ALL getting paid for reviews" type poo poo smells like "REAL gamers don't associate with casuals" or something. Like, it kind of implies "We deserve hard-hitting, in depth exposes on all the corruption going on, and REAL journalists" in a lovely way. It's just not what they do, or should be expected to do. What we actually deserve is more informed consumers moving away from useless (p)review sites.
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Jon Do posted:It's cool, I did kind of single you out in an unfair way, this has been happening in this thread for forever. It seems like a lot of people have some weird idea CIG took a bunch of backer money and literally paid for corrupt hype in these publications. That's just what those publications do, play to people who get hyped. Sadly. When you put yourself in the shoes of the games journalist, the 'keeping one's job' side of things kind of comes into focus, and that makes it easier to understand. But there's something mildly offensive about a career field that simply can't be taken seriously on so many levels.
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Turd Burglar posted:derek had a meltdown about ryan archer and threatened to not post for a page for every mention of ryan archer. LOL!! Yeah, that was hilarious.  Before that, it was the stolen valor hilarity involving my nephew (who seems to be AWOL I think)
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Jon Do posted:Basically what I'm saying is that "games journalist" in sneer quotes is basically the same type of horseshit as using 'ess jay dub' as an unironic insult. Find more productive poo poo to be an rear end in a top hat about.
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Danknificent posted:But there's something mildly offensive about a career field that simply can't be taken seriously on so many levels.
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Danknificent posted:But there's something mildly offensive about a career field that simply can't be taken seriously on so many levels. This is true, but then you could say that about designing or programming games instead of engineering new crops to feed the hungry or water purification or something. There's a small part of me that feels that way, but I realize that it's not really fair at all. In a way I am unabashed about loving Giant Bomb for living the dream. They just play games, say what they think, and do a bunch of work to get the videos together on a regular basis. I can't hardly stand to engage with anything else; I will deal with picking a game I want to know more about on Twitch and listening to someone play to Twitch/YT for donations before going to PC Gamer, Kotaku, The Escapist, or Rock, Paper, Shotgun. There are some articles on those sites about "inside the industry" that are interesting, but the whole thing is based around an audience of "gamers", which is a really weird term in 2016. Basically, the people who pre-order games they haven't played, and get hyped about poo poo. Those are the people who bother me, mainly because unabashed consumerism is gross to me.
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TTerrible posted:STIMSIS.
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kirsus posted:Derek, you posted this: uhm....but I never said anything about an announcement 
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Thanks for making my point, Ben. Everybody was yelling about his site, and how dare we look it up and all. I said, you want to be famous, you learn to suck it up that people will be looking at your background with an electron microscope. And there he is... the "famous Star Citizen". Seriously, CIG, you need to ditch him or get him off your public facing media NOW.
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Danknificent posted:Actually this media thing kind of bothers me - the notion that games media is scared of the Star Citizen community doesn't really click for me. Yeah, has nothing to do with being scared, but more to do with access as well as the fact that David Swofford who runs PR and interference for CIG, has a lot of top-tier contacts in the media. THAT'S what's going on. And The Escapist, as well as a few fringe media, are kinda renegades in the facade.
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Making it Rain posted:Was born in SA, but now live in Melb. OK great. If it's hush-hush and you want to remain anon, follow this SpyCraft guideline: http://www.dereksmart.org/forums/topic/discussion-forum-rules/#post-3048
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EminusSleepus posted:can you post what is your notes of Derek?  
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Hey Jared, if you're reading this, look out for that bus http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/449424/one-man-and-his-twisted-mind-the-face-of-the-community-from-the-mind-of-ben-lesnick http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/comment/6923120/#Comment_6923120  
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I heard that all the concepts for female avatars in Star Citizen have been rejected because none of them look as attractive as Misty from Pokemon.
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I'm 60 pages behind and they're all absolutely unskippable. 
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Olesh posted:Did he design any games that people actually gave a poo poo about? (No.) You can't be serious.
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Lando, seriously, your best bet is to speak up. Speak up now all about CIG before they force an NDA or some poo poo on you and fire your rear end. As much as I don't think you were doing that nice things, right now you and Money are by far the most outstanding two people left on the community team. So be the better man and do what's right.
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Daztek posted:Hey Jared, if you're reading this, look out for that bus Yeah, I read that on mmorpg earlier. Which is why I posted this http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/comment/6923108/#Comment_6923108 quote:Also, someone discovered the Ben website and posted about it on Reddit over FIVE months ago.
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AP posted:I heard that all the concepts for female avatars in Star Citizen have been rejected because none of them look as attractive as Misty from Pokemon. Ben hasn't found the right way to trick the artists into modeling 10 year olds
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Daztek posted:Hey Jared, if you're reading this, look out for that bus Both those comments were posted within the same 60 second timeframe, both attacking Lando. These aren't pre-written organised responses at all.
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Mendrian posted:Tell me more about the racist's show. And, maybe, if you are multi-ethnic, you go on a racist's show to show them you're not afraid to tackle them on their home territory.
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D_Smart posted:Exactly. In fact, I have the stream in my archives. I am on my iPad atm and don't have access to it, or I'd have posted it. People and their revisionist history. LIAR!!! It wasn't a stream, it was a WEBINAR!!! And how can it be watched now, if at the time you said that wasn't possible. Your words sir, D_Smart posted:There are no "page hits". It's a live webinar. And it's not recorded for posting anywhere, since that's not how those work. So if you don't attend, you won't know what's being said.
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STIMSIS posted:If you think I work for CIG you're crazy. I don't have a dime invested in Star Citizen and agree that it is a scam. What I don't like and what brought me to post is that hero worship of Derek. Derek hangs out with racists and his friends don't care. Now somebody that Derek doesn't like is exposed as a racist and Derek's friends care about racism all of a sudden. It's stupid to me. All this talk about how Ben should lose his job. DEREK SHOULD LOSE THE OP. HE DOESN'T EVEN UPDATE IT!! Wait a minute here. You keep arguing Derek hangs out with racists. However, no offense, Derek, Derek is pretty obviously non-Caucasian. So, pretty much the person... No, gently caress it, you don't deserve my logic. Go scream in the corner so more.
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D_Smart posted:Yeah, I read that on mmorpg earlier. Which is why I posted this It was also pointed out that Ben posted it in the brown sea. https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/5845416/#Comment_5845416 Which means yes he did indeed know the content of the website and he just let it sit there. gently caress that dude forever.
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This thread is magic. The perpetual motion of the drama is impossible.
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XK posted:This thread is magic. The perpetual motion of the drama is impossible. I'd say  definitely fits this thread well.
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STIMSIS posted:If you think I work for CIG you're crazy. I don't have a dime invested in Star Citizen and agree that it is a scam. What I don't like and what brought me to post is that hero worship of Derek. Derek hangs out with racists and his friends don't care. Now somebody that Derek doesn't like is exposed as a racist and Derek's friends care about racism all of a sudden. It's stupid to me. All this talk about how Ben should lose his job. DEREK SHOULD LOSE THE OP. HE DOESN'T EVEN UPDATE IT!! Kind of questionable that you've only been here a couple of months, and all you have posted in is this thread though. Now, mind you, I am in the top list of posters for this thread, but I have been here for seven years AND I post a lot of other places to boot. So, ummmmm, yeah, excuse us if we look at you askance.
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STIMSIS posted:LIAR!!! It wasn't a stream, it was a WEBINAR!!! And how can it be watched now, if at the time you said that wasn't possible. I don't think you're entirely mentally stable. Is your name Ben Lesnick?
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