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Asehujiko posted:Am I banned? I see summoning signs but no matter which one I use I immediately get an "unable to summon phantom" error. It started at Dancer and I'm at the King of the Storm. Other people are summoning them first. Both of those bosses are pretty hard for most people and are prime summon targets.
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8-Bit Scholar posted:If it's longer than a minute, your connection is slow! It's actually kind of weird, nobody summons me for Farron Keep boss but I get nigh insta-summoned for Cathedral.  Maybe people agree with me that the FK fight is so goddamn fun solo.
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Genocyber posted:It's pretty common, dude. I had ~45 by the end which is enough to get three things to +4. You get enough throughout the game that you can keep at least one at the same level as a main standard weapon. Do they max out at 4? I don't even remember. I thought it was 10. Anyways I've been pretty thorough afaik and I've been 1 short of getting my weapon to+4 for hours.
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NESguerilla posted:Do they max out at 4? I don't even remember. I thought it was 10. Uh no, regular weapons max out at +10. Twinkling weapons max out +5. Have you been killing those lizards? They drop quite a few and what not. Hell I had +5 weapon like half way before I ended the game.
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Xenothral posted:They seem pretty decent. I've been having a good time with my Astora Greatsword even before the patch though. Unless the patch did stuff for regular greatswords and not ultra greatswords. It mentions specifically "great swords" but I would imagine it's both. Also anyone know where to find a 2nd refined gem so I can shove it into my Astora's great sword?
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I'll admit I kinda rushed through my NG+ run in order to get the secret ending so I feel like I missed some stuff. Why exactly was Horace hostile in Smouldering Lake? Why did Anri have to be assassinated, is this just a "there can be only one hollow heir" kinda deal? I saw people saying that the sable church worship Kaathe but I didn't see that mentioned, is it just in item descriptions? Anri isn't dead, you can see them in the Usurper ending kneeling to you as you do your Lord walk
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finished grinding out purple mound invasions for the max covenant pyro reward, and i actually think the mask you get from pickle pete the crow with your 31st pelvis bone is the real max rank reward. overall the purple invasions are a lot more fun and a lot less work than i was expecting. just don't do them all in one sitting because that would be maddening, and try not to do them in a huge zone because that sucks too. people are going to summon other phantoms almost immediately as soon as you pop in, but keep in mind if it's 2v1 you "win" no matter which person you kill, and the host will generally do a lot less work protecting the summon, so often if you go after the phantom you can get an easy kill. also people will heal, no big deal, use your undead hunter charms if it bothers you that much, or just punish their heal with your weapon's heavy attack or kick them or whatever. one thing that was weird, it seemed like certain monsters would still damage me even as a purple invader (which they are not supposed to do afaik). they wouldn't target me per se, but if i happened to be in range of their attack while pursuing the host, i would still take damage. specifically, the grave wardens and the giants in the chapel area would both deal damage to me if i got too close to their attacks. is this a bug or are those two enemy types special or something? they're the only two that i've noticed can damage an invading purple phantom.
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homeless poster posted:one thing that was weird, it seemed like certain monsters would still damage me even as a purple invader (which they are not supposed to do afaik). they wouldn't target me per se, but if i happened to be in range of their attack while pursuing the host, i would still take damage. specifically, the grave wardens and the giants in the chapel area would both deal damage to me if i got too close to their attacks. is this a bug or are those two enemy types special or something? they're the only two that i've noticed can damage an invading purple phantom. AOE attacks appear to hurt you even though they shouldn't, the giant crabs and stray demon can also harm you as an invader.
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Is it just me or does the firelink music change after you give the fire keeper the eyes?
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8-Bit Scholar posted:The dead end is much further along. Keep going up. i found it almost immediately after posting. I assumed the dungeon was the main area and where i was was optional but clearly not
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Spooky Bear Ghost posted:Is it just me or does the firelink music change after you give the fire keeper the eyes? its not just you, its everyone.
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so kind of late to the discussion but this thread moves quick. re: Giants in DS3 so, it was my understanding that Giants like The Giant Lord and Yhorm are defo the same. they're roughly the same size, have basically a humanoid shape and move like basically a giant human would. Additionally, I think they are one and the same. It was my understanding that in DS2, Vendrick brough back from The faraway giant land, amongst other things, a way to construct golems/giants himself. All the soul powered giants in Drangleic are evidence of that. They're also scattered about randomly and sometimes as part of the set. it seemed to me that it was implied that the Giant Lord(s) constructed their army. The 'small' giants you fight in Ds2 are constructs. It seemed to me that the construct giants you find created by vendrick are in many ways pretty similar to the giants from the memories. They don't really have any discernible features besides a rough humanoid shape and an anus for a face. They are roughly equivalent in many ways, including skin color/texture, relative height/structure. Obviously they are molded differently, but if we look at the old knights in Heide's Tower, they look a bit closer than the utility golems found throughout drangleic. Anyway, I assumed Vendrick got the idea/stole some secret/got it from nashandra of a way to create these constructs to serve any purpose. Thus the real Giants of the far shore are basically like Yhorm, or the giant lord (another clue is that their suits/armor is strikingly similar). They're giant humanoids who used constructs to build their kingdoms and to wage war. it's possible that the giants themselves had perfected the technique, to the point where their constructs were almost living creatures. Vendrick's by comparison were a bit more construct-y, but then again the Old Knights in Heide's were pretty similar - and didn't need a soul infusion to function like the utility golems do. anyway, speculation! I love DS's lore and DS2 in particular was pretty great. I love that they brought back Eleum Loyce, amongst many other DS2 references. It didn't get as much love as DS1 but it did get some. Edit: as an addendum, whoever was asking about the profaned greatsword. I think it's pretty great? I loving love the charge attacks and the weapon art is pretty great. Free Flame weapon on a boss type/normally unbuffable weapon type. It's a pretty sizable damage buff as well. maybe 60 or 70 AR for me with 10 int/ 12 faith. the moveset is a little clunky in pvp, but i managed to go like 22 and 3 with it in aldrich faithful lastnight. Tabletops fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Apr 18, 2016 |
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So I decided to make my newest character be pure DEX with with a focus on Thrusting Swords and Curved Swords but... is it just me or did the Rapier et al. go all Demon's Souls-y in this game? Thrusting swords were so good in DS2 and the animations were super tight, but in this game I feel like my character is lunging and flailing around in a really awkward manner. I can't remember if it was like this in DS1 too, but Demon's Souls definitely had the awkward animations. Are they at least good damage?  Also, I'm wondering how I'm going to deal with a lot of enemies on a non-straight sword character. The stance you get with most straight swords that allows you to break enemy shields is the only way I found to reliably defeat certain turtling enemies (specifically anything with the Greatshield). How are y'all dealing with those mobs?
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Any contradictions I see between DS2 and DS3 I quickly dismiss on the basis of "DS2 was kind of dumb."
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Speculation about Aldrich: Is there a connection between Alrdich and Smough? Besides both being cannibals, Smough's hammer (? some item anyway) states he was the last knight to stay behind in the ruined capital, which seems slightly odd.
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Microwaves Mom posted:Summary of fist weapons, Yeah the lack of parry on fist weapons is loving bullshit. When you have one in your left hand it even does the parry animation, it just doesn't actually trigger a parry. Seems like a bug/oversight honestly.
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Your Computer posted:Also, I'm wondering how I'm going to deal with a lot of enemies on a non-straight sword character. The stance you get with most straight swords that allows you to break enemy shields is the only way I found to reliably defeat certain turtling enemies (specifically anything with the Greatshield). How are y'all dealing with those mobs? I was using a Dark Sword for most of the game so I never had access to the stance move but was essentially using a straight sword. The trick to every shield dude is their attack is super easy to bait. Walk right into their face, wait for the swing, dodge into them and combo them down.
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Your Computer posted:So I decided to make my newest character be pure DEX with with a focus on Thrusting Swords and Curved Swords but... is it just me or did the Rapier et al. go all Demon's Souls-y in this game? Thrusting swords were so good in DS2 and the animations were super tight, but in this game I feel like my character is lunging and flailing around in a really awkward manner. I can't remember if it was like this in DS1 too, but Demon's Souls definitely had the awkward animations. As someone who used mostly axes, clubs, rapiers, and big rear end swords for 99% of the game, i finally tried one out last night. I upgraded a dark sword to +6 on a whim while loving around in the dungeon and holy poo poo. It's like night and day how much easier this poo poo is than anything else in the loving game. it's nuts. it hit's for like 250 a pop and the attack speed is fast, area of effect is huge. it hit people basically behind me with r1 spam. it's like easy mode, for real.
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Oxxidation posted:Any contradictions I see between DS2 and DS3 I quickly dismiss on the basis of "DS2 was kind of dumb." No you.  Puts on Lucatiel Mask and goes back to ganking.
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Tabletops posted:re: Giants in DS3 The giants in DS2 are definitely the same as Yhorm, his face looked as if he were wearing a mask over his hole, but again, with his ashes on the seat it gives him a regular old skull, so Its possible the giants have skulls, but theyre either vestigial (like whale hips) or shrouded in darkness. Also the giant outside of Firelink is definitely the last giant/giant lord. Look at the right of his back, you can see where he was impaled
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How much Str/Dex should I be putting into my refined Astora Greatsword? I just reached the Catacombs and I'm at about 23/23 str/dex right now.
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1-800-DOCTORB posted:How much Str/Dex should I be putting into my refined Astora Greatsword? I just reached the Catacombs and I'm at about 23/23 str/dex right now. soft scaling caps are 40 for STR and DEX, beyond that you get nasty diminishing returns. after 60 the returns get even worse
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Spooky Bear Ghost posted:The giants in DS2 are definitely the same as Yhorm, his face looked as if he were wearing a mask over his hole, but again, with his ashes on the seat it gives him a regular old skull, so Its possible the giants have skulls, but theyre either vestigial (like whale hips) or shrouded in darkness. During the special cutscene you get if you do a quest right, you can see Yhorm has a human face.
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Tabletops posted:As someone who used mostly axes, clubs, rapiers, and big rear end swords for 99% of the game, i finally tried one out last night. I upgraded a dark sword to +6 on a whim while loving around in the dungeon and holy poo poo. It really is. Again, even more so if you pick one that has Stance since you can always rush in and start stunlocking or break shields and... start stunlocking (unless you're strong enough to one-shot them with the riposte). Cinara posted:I was using a Dark Sword for most of the game so I never had access to the stance move but was essentially using a straight sword. The trick to every shield dude is their attack is super easy to bait. Walk right into their face, wait for the swing, dodge into them and combo them down. My problem with that is that the enemies in this game will use their shield bash even if you're not holding up your shield. If you're close to them and they decide to use that attack, you're getting hit no matter what since it's essentially instantaneous, and because of that I end up using like 3 estus per Greatshield enemy since they take so long to kill when your only option is to bait, counter, bait, counter, get hit by shield bash, rinse and repeat 1-800-DOCTORB posted:How much Str/Dex should I be putting into my refined Astora Greatsword? I just reached the Catacombs and I'm at about 23/23 str/dex right now. It's a beast at 40/40 +10 Refined 
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Did they really make 2 different blue sentinel covenants?
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Lakbay posted:Anri isn't dead, you can see them in the Usurper ending kneeling to you as you do your Lord walk Huh! weird, I didn't notice that originally.
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NESguerilla posted:Do they max out at 4? I don't even remember. I thought it was 10. Unique/boss weapons max out at +5, but everything uses slabs for the maximum upgrade level so you only need twinkling for up to +4. Since the amount of upgrades they get is halved, +4 is equivalent to +8. What I meant was that by the time you have a +6 standard weapon, you could have gotten enough twinkling to have a single +3 unique, if you hoarded.
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Spanish Manlove posted:During the special cutscene you get if you do a quest right, you can see Yhorm has a human face. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IolJ6lJJrI&t=45s
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Jose posted:Did they really make 2 different blue sentinel covenants? Yes. The second one is completely superfluous because they removed the sin invasion mechanic. You'd think they would have one be the WoB helpers and the other be the punishers, but nah. Tabletops posted:wow he totally does I can't believe I missed this just because I got Siegward out of his cell after that boss 
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I know it's been said before but that view after you come out of the Catacombs is just stunningly beautiful
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So the Dark Sword is insanely good, but how is the Dark Hand in this game? Worth investing in? e: also "Londor" sounds a lot less goofy than "Londo"
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Tabletops posted:wow he totally does Yeah that's what makes it more confusing. Also that he's old friends with siegward, and siegward's whole quest is to kill Yhorm. They never explain how or why.
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Spanish Manlove posted:Yeah that's what makes it more confusing. Also that he's old friends with siegward, and siegward's whole quest is to kill Yhorm. They never explain how or why. He is most likely the friend that he gifted stormruler too and the one who made him cast aside his greatshield, perhaps Yhorm asked siegward to end his life?
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So is there an equivalent to the third dragon ring/favour and protection? I'd love some more stamina and equip weight from a ring as mine are all largely useless at the minute playing a purely physical build with a heavy weapon
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Spanish Manlove posted:Yeah that's what makes it more confusing. Also that he's old friends with siegward, and siegward's whole quest is to kill Yhorm. They never explain how or why. seems like all the lords eventually fall to corruption/hollowing/abyss junk, and practically everyone else as well. Sirris's quest is similar, to kill her grandfather who became hollownutters in the undead settlement.
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Jose posted:So is there an equivalent to the third dragon ring/favour and protection? I'd love some more stamina and equip weight from a ring as mine are all largely useless at the minute playing a purely physical build with a heavy weapon you can get it like halfway through the game. The Ring of Favor. it's not nearly as good as the second or third dragon ring. maybe not even the first.
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So is the Master of Infusions trophy hosed on PC? Cuz I just sat here and stuffed all 12 types into weapons and nothing. The fact that it says only 0.8% have gotten it would suggest that's the case. Unless it wants you to upgrade them all to max, in which case gently caress that noise.
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Stormgale posted:He is most likely the friend that he gifted stormruler too and the one who made him cast aside his greatshield, perhaps Yhorm asked siegward to end his life? Hmm that could be it. I assumed the one Yhorm lost was Nashandra or whatever Vendrick stole that made the giants invade Drangleic in DS2. But going by the whole "profaned flame" thing it seems that the people in the capital did some goofy poo poo with chaos. Jose posted:So is there an equivalent to the third dragon ring/favour and protection? I'd love some more stamina and equip weight from a ring as mine are all largely useless at the minute playing a purely physical build with a heavy weapon Yeah right after the pontiff, right before the archers, there's a illusory wall and it's behind there. Prepare for a fun fight though.
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Lakbay posted:Anri isn't dead, you can see them in the Usurper ending kneeling to you as you do your Lord walk Wait what Edit: I'll be goddamned you're right.
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