Goatman Sacks posted:

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The reason that a lot of people have become a lot more grr goons since this war slaughter began is that after taking one or two welps you started doing nothing but "clown shoe god drat sword fleet poo poo" (Sapporo Jones 2016). A lot of people are actually kind of disgusted at Mittani for deliberately denying content and big fights in a futile (that's important btw) attempt to hold on to his space empire (and multi-shekel media caliphate). When TEST was in a similar position to where goons are now - i.e. getting deep dicked by an overwhelming force - we said "eh, gently caress it" and went down in a blaze of glory in a futile attempt to hold 6VDT, as opposed to hiding in lowsec or NPC null and posting about how we're winning the war with the hope of the hostile coalition disbanding and letting us take back our space. Instead of playing smart and using all of the ways that entities can perform well when fighting outnumbered in fozziesov, we're seeing the second largest (p. sure we're bigger at this point) and easily the richest coalition in eve reduced to flying loving interceptors and Caracals. What happened to your new Baltec fleet? What happened to your AHAC T3s? Why did you stop doing Machs? All of those doctrines (except for baltecfleet, because lol megas in this meta) can be insanely effective when outnumbered - as Lowsec Voltron proved to you when you tried to take their poo poo. Instead of actually trying to adapt and get better, Mittani is trying to ~~~~metagame~~~~ us into submission by hoping we get bored of taking all your poo poo.
Oh, and people hate your leadership for harbouring a turbo-shitler who doxxes people.

Torpor posted:

I like how phorde is flying so many ships that they are choking the barrels of our guns.

cravius posted:

mods please change my name to multi-shekel media caliphate tia

Goatman Sacks posted:

Not doxxing turbo-shitler?

VideoGames posted:

What is the learning boosters thing?

And having to buy the skill books now explains to me why I searched for some skills to train and they were not in my list and I had to buy them from the market. That is a bit difficult to get.

VideoGames posted:

What is the learning boosters thing?

And having to buy the skill books now explains to me why I searched for some skills to train and they were not in my list and I had to buy them from the market. That is a bit difficult to get.

Richard Bong posted:

Either jita or one of the newbie systems(such as the one you started in should have a good selection of books. Jita will be a bit more expensive but everything you could want will be there.

Orange Red Bull posted:

Lets look at two other regions where people 'live' in their space: Fountain and Querious, they arent blue with their neighbors but all moons, decent truesec, etc. have been divvied up and NIPS/NAPS put into place.

They small gang roam and shoot each other in frigates. These guys space is soo safe they can leave for months to come north and do the MBC thing.

In fact they have to leave their space to find 'fights' because nobody fights locally at least over anything that matters. Same as it ever was.

Landsknecht posted:

it's better than the map being 1/3 russian, 1/3 cfc and 1/3 n3

Torpor posted:

I like how phorde is flying so many ships that they are choking the barrels of our guns. Also the mass entosis thing seems exceedingly obvious and the Zergy type of strategy that we should have been doing this past month.

It kind of seems like our defense has been low energy.

LuiCypher posted:

mpaarating posted:

You guys spend waaay too much time thinking of words to make this game sound dramatic and exciting.

ChickenWing posted:

that's a really big post just to say we're turning Dek into afghangoonistan

mpaarating posted:

You guys spend waaay too much time thinking of words to make this game sound dramatic and exciting.

ChickenWing posted:

that's a really big post just to say we're turning Dek into afghangoonistan

Daspied posted:

Honestly the social cleansing is exactly what Goon-swarm needed. There are way too many white knights preaching orders from their ivory towers pretending to be invincible; while simultaneously accepting any mouth breathing neck-beard that can spin a ship to rat for the massive RMT empire. Maybe, just maybe you will be able to get some of the old pvp talent and FC's back now -- of course the leadership would still have to change first. Although the true cultural downfall of Goon-swarm though was after Darius resigned, and then only widened after B-R.

vyst posted:

I wish you could do the same to your posts to make them exciting.

VideoGames posted:

What is the learning boosters thing?

And having to buy the skill books now explains to me why I searched for some skills to train and they were not in my list and I had to buy them from the market. That is a bit difficult to get.

Daspied posted:

Honestly the social cleansing is exactly what Goon-swarm needed. There are way too many white knights preaching orders from their ivory towers pretending to be invincible; while simultaneously accepting any mouth breathing neck-beard that can spin a ship to rat for the massive RMT empire. Maybe, just maybe you will be able to get some of the old pvp talent and FC's back now -- of course the leadership would still have to change first. Although the true cultural downfall of Goon-swarm though was after Darius resigned, and then only widened after B-R.

Zethe posted:

My co-worker has gone from literally frothing at the mouth grr goons to telling me he's leaving PH due to constant whelps, no SRP and goons being boring to fight.

Cultural victory?

Zethe posted:

My co-worker has gone from literally frothing at the mouth grr goons to telling me he's leaving PH due to constant whelps, no SRP and goons being boring to fight.

Cultural victory?

Zethe posted:

My co-worker has gone from literally frothing at the mouth grr goons to telling me he's leaving PH due to constant whelps, no SRP and goons being boring to fight.

Cultural victory?

CainFortea posted:

Accepting anyone with a pulse is PL's shtick.

LuiCypher posted:

If I recall correctly, FozzieSov rewards this type of attacker strategy and due to the nature of how defensive hacking works (only certain groups who 'own' the links can counter-hack) it puts the burden of defense on one entity. For example, GSF can't help FCON by counter-hacking any FCON entosis and vice versa, but basically everybody in the entire MBC can hack entosis links regardless of who owns them. Therefore, choking gun barrels with massive numbers of people - whose losses can all be reimbursed thanks to the extremely generous purse strings of MBC - is an effective strategy. Ironically enough, you could probably consider it to be a classic GSF tactic.

As for why defense is low-energy (), GSF has been reduced from a sovereign power to an insurgency. Because the MBC as a whole possesses the Apex Force regarding the size of their supercapital fleet, GSF can't risk a super-cap engagement because 1) it would end horribly for GSF 2) give the enemy exactly what they want and 3) tank morale in a big way because r/eve would become even more insufferable than it already is for the foreseeable future. For similar reasons, GSF can't really risk a large-scale engagement either - with its sovereignty fading away rapidly, a lot of the income from moongoo and ratters is fading away as well. Regularly reimbursing 100+ billion ISK fleets is definitely a planned-upon expense, but it would be ideal if these 100+ billion ISK fleets were used to fight winnable battles. The war chest needs to be maintained for future engagements as well as for the expense that Citadels will incur as well. Right now, with the entirely of the MBC waiting for a 'gudfite', there really isn't an ideal scenario for GSF to go on a high-energy defensive operation. The 'gudfites' for the MBC will almost inevitably end with GSF getting curbstomped as it's really hard to overcome 3:1 odds and the ever-present threat of escalation via supercaps.

The best strategy available to GSF right now - one that they appear to be employing - is to simply deny the enemy fights and bide their strength while launching guerrilla strikes on unsuspecting idiots as a way to bleed the enemy while they are the occupying force. By making the very act of maintaining sov in Deklein an absolute hell for the people who will occupy it - which is likely not going to be PL or NC. unless somehow holding sov in nullsec will come with massive enough benefits for them to move out of lowsec - GSF wants to make it extremely unattractive space.

The way I see it, this part of the war - grinding GSF's sov into oblivion - is really only the first phase. Even when Deklein changes from yellow over to whatever motley Verite decides upon, the war is far from over.

All of this is just my opinion/conjecture, however. I don't play this game, but I follow its goings-on with enough attention to make some casual observations about the state of things from afar. I have absolutely zero inside knowledge, except what I can divine from open sources.

Zethe posted:

My co-worker has gone from literally frothing at the mouth grr goons to telling me he's leaving PH due to constant whelps, no SRP and goons being boring to fight.

Cultural victory?

Rhymenoserous posted:

I really really really hope he died to blops at some point

Like horde is making a big deal about how "Fleet ships are handed out so no need for reimbursement" but we've been killing non fleet crap by the truckload and it's great.

Torpor posted:

I don't think we are conserving strength and we are exchanging unfavorably. We need cheaper ships to welp.

With regards to phorde I was referring to the strategy I think I was confusing them with test or something. I was referencing their strategy of handing out a huge amount of entosis links to a fleet to contest the command nodes.

Torpor posted:

I don't think we are conserving strength and we are exchanging unfavorably. We need cheaper ships to welp.

With regards to phorde I was referring to the strategy I think I was confusing them with test or something. I was referencing their strategy of handing out a huge amount of entosis links to a fleet to contest the command nodes.

Landsknecht posted:

if pandemic horde is the alliance beating you, you have a serious problem

Cefte posted:

is vee still playing

Glory of Arioch posted:

Dear Mittani, It boggles my mind as to why people follow your lame 150 pound soaking wet rear end. You are a pathological liar, a narsasist, ugly excuse of a man, Lance Bass hairstyle from the 90s N*Sync wearing, lame, nerdy pile of worthless poo poo. You tried skimming money for a book for your own profit, which you will deny. You generate traffic to TMC and pocket the cash while paying your writers in isk. I mean seriously, dethrone this clown , elect someone worth a gently caress or just disband the corp / alliance as a whole. The people finally figured out that as a whole they can beat down the bully and the war is a loss. Now you have countless people with their assets locked up in places they will never get back unless they switch sides to MBC. I mean idk I'm ranting for sure but how dumb can people be? THE GUY IS A MORON WITH NO REAL QUALIFICATION TO HOLD THE POSITION THATBHE HAS. I mean technically no one does, but I promise you there are countless people that can. poo poo, I could end this war in a week and make everyone happy. But hey, sit in station and blue ball MBC because that is all you can do. Just quit lying to your line members and act like poo poo will get better. You lost the war, CFCs reign is over. Try again in a year when CFC gets their poo poo together. And for the record I take no favor on either side of the war, just calling the blatent obvious.
tldr; The mittani is a Jew, and not the good king ratting in JU- kind.

ullerrm posted:

That's not true -- otherwise they would have taken Lemba. Believe it or not, there are some levels even PL won't sink to.