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Haha, our predictic cash dollars are going to be locked up until California.
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Fidel Castronaut posted:Haha, our predictic cash dollars are going to be locked up until California. Bernie will drop out tonight.
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Apr 19, 2016 19:05
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B B posted:Bernie will drop out tonight. He's still convincing idiots to give him money so probably not.
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STAC Goat posted:I'm a big fan of Yaunkaws. I've long insisted that they should get the fifth borough spot and we should boot Staten Island out, because really... Staten Island? the nicest thing about staten island is that it's free to leave 
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B B posted:Is Yonkers even a real place? Sounds made up. poo poo's bonkers. SavageBastard posted:That's legitimately not good. They said it had been happening 'nonstop' since they opened at noon. My wife plans to follow up with the board of elections to try and understand where the Yonkers address originated from. To put this in perspective, she was in the book when we voted in the local primaries about seven months ago.
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twoday posted:Staten Island was originally supposed to be a part of New Jersey but in the 1600's the governor of New Jersey staked it on a bet that the governor of New York couldn't circumnavigate the island in 24 hours in a small yacht. Well, he did, and now Staten Islamd is a part of NYC #suckityonkers “We have found no contemporary record to prove the statement; nor, on the other hand, any other sufficient explanation of the favors so bountifully bestowed upon [Billopp]”.
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Atoramos posted:poo poo's bonkers. Yeah, that's legitimately effed. It's pretty puzzling how and why we still use such a crap voting system. Americans want elections but don't want to pay for them.
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A Winner is Jew posted:He's still convincing idiots to give him money so probably not. :bernget:
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Apr 19, 2016 19:14
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SavageBastard posted:Americans want [things] but don't want to pay for them. Americans as a whole are perfectly willing to pay thousands of dollars for basic poo poo so long as it goes to a for-profit company and not the government 
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Apr 19, 2016 19:18
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Did Hillary win yet
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Did Hillary win yet I keep asking this but no one will give me a solid answer.
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Apr 19, 2016 19:21
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Bernie supporters are saying we should now not announce the results until the judge makes their decision, which could happen tomorrow.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Bernie supporters are saying we should now not announce the results until the judge makes their decision, which could happen tomorrow. loving lol "Guys no come on if we don't say it it won't be official!"
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Apr 19, 2016 19:22
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pathetic little tramp posted:Bernie supporters are saying we should now not announce the results until the judge makes their decision, which could happen tomorrow. Personally, I think we should let the Sanders campaign do its own recount before any results are made official.
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Apr 19, 2016 19:26
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Is there any entry or exit polls or are gonna have to wait till tonight when the polls close?
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Apr 19, 2016 19:27
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Fojar38 posted:What is the lawsuit based on exactly and what is their ideal outcome Well, funnily enough, their main complaint is that people's parties are being switched around without their knowing; but I believe the lawsuit is strictly about a purge of voters that cleared some 60k off the rolls, which sounds pretty normal actually. The desired outcome is all Hillary votes become Bernie votes by way of the precedent set in Rubber v. Glue.
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Fojar38 posted:What is the lawsuit based on exactly and what is their ideal outcome to the first, "wahhhh sanders is losing" to the second, that all votes for clinton are voided
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Fullhouse posted:Americans as a whole are perfectly willing to pay thousands of dollars for basic poo poo so long as it goes to a for-profit company and not the government My old town in Arizona recently got stuck with a bigger pension bill than they wanted to pay but the court made them do it. So the town council put up a referendum on a 0.6% sales tax to pay for it. It got voted down and the town was forced to start browning out fire stations to make up the difference on the cash. Of course, everyone started freaking out and saying the town council didn't care about their safety and didn't know how to do their jobs. of course, this is in the same state that sold their state capital building to make up a budget deficit, leased the building back and then purchased it back in full a few years later at a huge loss to the state. Because you know, balanced budgets are fiscally conservative.
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Apr 19, 2016 19:28
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Fojar38 posted:What is the lawsuit based on exactly and what is their ideal outcome Its based on wishes and fairy dust and their ideal outcome is God Emperor Bernie Sanders.
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Ace of Baes posted:Is there any entry or exit polls or are gonna have to wait till tonight when the polls close? There will no doubt be exit polls and New York is apparently often very late at getting all the results in. That being said, any Clinton win at all is basically game over for Sanders so exit polls are probably enough. B B posted:Bernie will drop out tonight. I don't think you get it. A bird landed on his podium in the middle of a packed arena. A BIRD, ok?
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Ace of Baes posted:Is there any entry or exit polls or are gonna have to wait till tonight when the polls close? Clinton and Trump both won NY. We're just waiting to find out what the margins are.
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SavageBastard posted:“We have found no contemporary record to prove the statement; nor, on the other hand, any other sufficient explanation of the favors so bountifully bestowed upon [Billopp]”. 
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yeah, the writings in the wall. we already know who won, the question is by how much.
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Apr 19, 2016 19:33
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Fojar38 posted:What is the lawsuit based on exactly and what is their ideal outcome Voters who HAD valid registrations, but find themselves purged from the voter rolls (some had their affiliation switched, incorrect addresses listed etc.). The lawsuit wants to allow provisional ballots (accompanied by signed affidavits) to be counted for those voters who were registered before the deadline. It's a reasonable request, and I assume it will be granted. It's no cause for delaying the reporting of the result. At most just notify everyone that the numbers are subject to change if some of these voters cannot be verified in the coming weeks. Some were hoping for an opening of the primary midway through the day, but that seems unlikely.
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So apparently the lawyers for Sanders are arguing that people who claim the illuminati switched their party affiliation should be believed and be allowed to vote as democrats. If the judge grants that, this could lead to weeks and weeks of bullshit. Edit: central to their belief that the system is rigged is the idea that only Sanders supporters are getting purged from the rolls. This probably affects more Clinton voters than Bernie
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Apr 19, 2016 19:35
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Fojar38 posted:What is the lawsuit based on exactly and what is their ideal outcome There seems to have been a problem with the lovely NY Dem database and some voters are getting hosed over by getting unregistered or moved to random towns. Almost certainly won't impact the outcome, but it's pretty hosed up for people who want to participate. Presumably they're seeking an injunction to let these people vote. The problem is that it's impossible to discern which voters are getting screwed and which are just idiots/opportunists trying to use the problem to un-disenfranchise themselves LIKE RATS.
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fishmech posted:to the first, "wahhhh sanders is losing" /  Actually people are upset that their registrations are being changed without their knowledge and/or purged with no notification and/or listed with the wrong address. Which is pretty understandable to be upset about tbh.
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Blaming grand conspiracy when "general bureaucratic incompetence" is likely the actual factor is a bit silly, but it is super hosed up that this (registration becoming inactive, completely random address/affiliation changes) happens to people without their knowledge and their votes should definitely be counted I won't say the same about all the people still registered as independents harassing poll workers for provisional ballots, that's just a waste of time
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If New York had day-of registration like a civilized state it would hardly matter. And yeah, statistically likely that more Hillary voters are getting screwed than anyone else.
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eggyolk posted:Voting in Greenpoint was super easy this morning and made me show up early to work. Should've loudly hummed and hawed at the booth for a half an hour. Same in the West Village. Although most people here are probably voting for Hillary so I'm sure they got really well organized on purpose 
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Vox Nihili posted:There seems to have been a problem with the lovely NY Dem database and some voters are getting hosed over by getting unregistered or moved to random towns. Almost certainly won't impact the outcome, but it's pretty hosed up for people who want to participate. I don't really think there's any sort of relief needed. They can vote provisionally, and the NY Department of Elections can manually go and find their old voter registration forms and determine if they are eligible to vote or not.
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Dr_0ctag0n posted:/ actually the lawsuit is a desperate ploy by whiny sanders fans that was filed at a time that would make it impossible to fix any problems. sorry you're mad that no one likes your dead candidate and he is rightfully losing by millions of votes? if they had a legitimate grievance with the primary rules, why didn't they try to sue over them months prior?
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Fojar38 posted:Can a judge actually order a primary vote to be opened? Judges can do anything.
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Concerned Citizen posted:I don't really think there's any sort of relief needed. They can vote provisionally, and the NY Department of Elections can manually go and find their old voter registration forms and determine if they are eligible to vote or not. I don't really think any meaningfully relief is practicable at this late hour either, but I'm not really well-acquainted with the details.
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fishmech posted:actually the lawsuit is a desperate ploy by whiny sanders fans that was filed at a time that would make it impossible to fix any problems. sorry you're mad that no one likes your dead candidate and he is rightfully losing by millions of votes? You won the argument and beat everyone forever, congrats.
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Fojar38 posted:Can a judge actually order a primary vote to be opened? IANAL but i would imagine the den party would sue the poo poo out of them if they did that. And rightfully so.
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Weird clerical errors are the reason provisional ballots exist, so elections officials can go back and verify information from those ballots and have them counted. This takes a while, and barring some really exceptional result the primary here will probably be mostly forgotten in a few weeks, so it won't really affect anything
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Would be hilarious if they counted them and they were enough to give Hillary a win. Won't happen but i would love to watch berners confront screwing themselves and hillary supporters retroactively say it was a good ruling.
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