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logikv9 posted:hillary's donor list has a very high percentage of satanists. because she is satan, you see hail satan 
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i'm surprised anyone actually wants another old white dude as president
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out of democrats that is
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Karl Barks posted:i actually thought it would be really cool to have an agnostic president (i assume bernie was agnostic from his comments). does hillary fake religion? Depends. Is religion polling well in the U.S.?
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zen death robot posted:So what makes this not a primary 
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TyrantWD posted:I don't think parties should hold open primaries. The party primary process exists to give a voice to the party members. Your registered Democrats/Republicans are going to be the ones most likely to be getting out and voting for you in the general election, midterms, special elections etc., so shouldn't the party find the candidate that is acceptable to the majority of those people? A party is not just a general election candidate, but a nationwide machine that is built and funded by party members. more independents vote in the general than members of both parties combined. you'd deny a voice to those most vital in the selection of our highest office?
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Karl Barks posted:i actually thought it would be really cool to have an agnostic president (i assume bernie was agnostic from his comments). does hillary fake religion? She's actually pretty serious about her Methodism, from what I've read.
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sanders supporters are like this "dooba dooba" hillary supporters are like this "wonka wonka"
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triple sulk posted:i'm surprised anyone actually wants another old white dude as president america was only ready to elect a non white male for president, they weren't ready to have a non white male as the president
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triple sulk posted:i'm surprised anyone actually wants another old white dude as president Clearly the President's gender and age is more important than pursuing & enacting progressives policies.
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Skyl3lazer posted:your accelerationist attitude won't work in a wold with nuclear weapons, which also happens to be on the brink of environmental oblivion there is nothing accelerationist about pointing out that bernie sanders is a lovely liberal who doesn't actually present any meaningful opposition to capitalism and its especially funny for someone who pretends to care about the environment to support someone who hates nuclear power and gmos.
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zen death robot posted:Yes they need to pick a party if they wanna pick the nominee so they're forced to take their pick between two corrupt parties in a corrupt system, and we expect that to be able to purge the corruption
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Immortan posted:Clearly the President's gender and age is more important than pursuing & enacting progressives policies. looking at the last 8 years i agree
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this is why california switched to a top-two primary for everything but president
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TyrantWD posted:I don't think parties should hold open primaries. The party primary process exists to give a voice to the party members. Your registered Democrats/Republicans are going to be the ones most likely to be getting out and voting for you in the general election, midterms, special elections etc., so shouldn't the party find the candidate that is acceptable to the majority of those people? A party is not just a general election candidate, but a nationwide machine that is built and funded by party members. the issue is basically party membership doesn't really mean anything anymore. in a world where there's 2 parties and all attempts to introduce a 3rd party is self-defeating, it's kind of undemocratic to say "you must have association with one of the two parties to pick who will move on to the general." i think there is basically an expectation now that party primaries are fair and open to the public.
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Skyl3lazer posted:more independents vote in the general than members of both parties combined. you'd deny a voice to those most vital in the selection of our highest office? They are free to switch their registration. A 30 day window, which most states have, is perfectly reasonable. If you want a say in a party related matter, you should be engaged enough to pay attention to registration deadlines.
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TyrantWD posted:They are free to switch their registration. A 30 day window, which most states have, is perfectly reasonable. If you want a say in a party related matter, you should be engaged enough to pay attention to registration deadlines. new york's six month window is hosed up and bad but that can be changed
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fishmech posted:there is nothing accelerationist about pointing out that bernie sanders is a lovely liberal who doesn't actually present any meaningful opposition to capitalism I dont agree with sanders on everything - nuclear power and GMOs are actually the two things I agree with him least on. doesn't mean i'm willing to throw out the baby with the bathwater and vote for a republican with a d next to her name
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fishmech posted:there is nothing accelerationist about pointing out that bernie sanders is a lovely liberal who doesn't actually present any meaningful opposition to capitalism Clearly, the capitalist donor candidate  is the better candidate to oppose capitalism than Bernie.
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also most independents are really IINOs anyways, case in point: bernard "this feels empty without a middle name, which bernie doesn't have, wtf even" sanders
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incredibly hosed up that ny disenfranchised 129 million young voters
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TyrantWD posted:I don't think parties should hold open primaries. The party primary process exists to give a voice to the party members. Your registered Democrats/Republicans are going to be the ones most likely to be getting out and voting for you in the general election, midterms, special elections etc., so shouldn't the party find the candidate that is acceptable to the majority of those people? A party is not just a general election candidate, but a nationwide machine that is built and funded by party members. If your party is running a candidate which attracts a lot of interest from those outside the party, let them join the party to vote for that candidate, ESPECIALLY if most of those people are young and likely to grow into major supporters. It's not like people registered in the party are likely to leave it unless they die or get swapped out by lovely record keeping, though admittedly I haven't seen any statistics on that
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A Winner is Jew posted:looking at the last 8 years i agree Still butthurt that Obama boss-dogged Hillary in the 08 primaries, I see. 
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honestly if sanders doesnt win this primary (not ny but the dem nom in general) its just proof that the system actually doesn't work and needs to be torn down, lest we walk into darkness
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logikv9 posted:incredibly hosed up that ny disenfranchised 129 million young voters Nothing is below Hillary's standards.
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Skyl3lazer posted:honestly if sanders doesnt win this primary (not ny but the dem nom in general) its just proof that the system actually doesn't work and needs to be torn down, lest we walk into darkness When you walk through a storm, hold your head up high And don’t be afraid of the dark At the end of the storm, there’s a golden sky And the sweet, silver song of a lark Walk on through the wind Walk on through the rain Though your dreams be tossed and blown Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you’ll never walk alone You’ll never walk alone Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you’ll never walk alone You’ll never walk alone
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Skyl3lazer posted:honestly if sanders doesnt win this primary (not ny but the dem nom in general) its just proof that the system actually doesn't work and needs to be torn down, lest we walk into darkness the only system that works is one that works for me
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zen death robot posted:It probably made sense decades ago when everything was on paper or at least had to be printed out months in advance this is new york, i wouldn't be so confident that this is not still the case
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logikv9 posted:the only system that works is one that works for me Hillary's new campaign slogan?
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Later in the night I'll tune into the young turks stream and if they are all about to commit ritualistic suicide then I know things aren't looking good for Sanders
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Concerned Citizen posted:the issue is basically party membership doesn't really mean anything anymore. in a world where there's 2 parties and all attempts to introduce a 3rd party is self-defeating, it's kind of undemocratic to say "you must have association with one of the two parties to pick who will move on to the general." i think there is basically an expectation now that party primaries are fair and open to the public. also this, geez. The US is basically locked into a 2 party system barring incredible structural reform, so let people vote for your lovely old man
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Later in the night I'll tune into the young turks stream and if they are all about to commit ritualistic suicide then I know things aren't looking good for Sanders didn't they support larry lessig at first
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Skyl3lazer posted:I dont agree with sanders on everything - nuclear power and GMOs are actually the two things I agree with him least on. doesn't mean i'm willing to throw out the baby with the bathwater and vote for a republican with a d next to her name bernie sanders, being a liberal, has policy in practice indistinguishable from clinton, which its why its hillarious you act like he's a great hope of mankind Immortan posted:Clearly, the capitalist donor candidate bernie sanders is also the capitalist's candidate since all you liberals support him.
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now i'm not saying that sanders supporters are mentally ill, but i will point out that if you happen to have a mental illness, there is a strong likelihood that you also support bernie sanders.
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fishmech posted:bernie sanders, being a liberal, has policy in practice indistinguishable from clinton, which its why its hillarious you act like he's a great hope of mankind please don't just repeat washington post headlines at me, at least put a bit of effort in
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fishmech posted:bernie sanders is also the capitalist's candidate since all you liberals support him. I guess this makes the fascist candidate.
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hi guys is this the thread where I jerk off. it looks like a good one, for that
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TyrantWD posted:They are free to switch their registration. A 30 day window, which most states have, is perfectly reasonable. If you want a say in a party related matter, you should be engaged enough to pay attention to registration deadlines. And if the primary were managed by the party, they could even allow same-day party registration and collect whatever information they wanted. A great way to build the party mail / email / phone lists.
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