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Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008

argondamn posted:

Pate was innocent.

Sirris is in cahoots with Pate

CAHOOTS

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Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



Genocyber posted:

Anytime someone says this I just laugh and laugh

This is basically never true. There are some specific parts of levels where the enemies are dangerous enough to be somewhat of a threat to the host and their posse, but even those are often completely neutered by them just staying back and letting the enemies leash, forcing you to come fight them and almost certainly die. You're doubly hosed if the host has a Seed of Giants.

if you think the host has a posse then you did not actually read what I said. when it's 1v1 and they don't use a seed of seed of giants (which can happen, you're right, but it's unlikely), the host is obviously at a disatvantage. summoning helpers more than evens the odds, which is why people do it, which is what I said

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
i haven't actually done anri's questline beyond meeting him/her and horace at the crucifixion road bonfire, but having been spoiled on the general direction it takes a very :haw: thought occurs to me

if you meet anri and then swap genders with rosario's covenant can you gay marry anri

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
If the host fights in a safe spot they have the advantage. You have the embers health boost along with more estus, unless you were invaded long after using a bonfire. The invader can retreat to enemies, but that only helps you kill the host if they follow. Most will not. Also seed of giants completely negates that advantage.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
also is there just a comprehensive list of things not to do because they'll gently caress up NPCs / plots / items you only get one shot at

spoiler-free would be nice but i don't mind if it's spoilery either, i just want something that puts all the NO DONT's in one place

sandoz
Jan 29, 2009


Harrow posted:

Walk past his door and down the stairs. There's a shortcut right there.

Praise the sun

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

also is there just a comprehensive list of things not to do because they'll gently caress up NPCs / plots / items you only get one shot at

spoiler-free would be nice but i don't mind if it's spoilery either, i just want something that puts all the NO DONT's in one place

The only thing I can really think of that's a one shot deal is the Morion Blade. Everything else usually gets dropped somewhere if an NPC fucks up and dies, especially their ashes which gives all their vendor poo poo to the vendor lady. When greirat died for me and I gave her his ashes, she started selling stuff he didn't even have.

Boomstick Quaid
Jan 28, 2009

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

also is there just a comprehensive list of things not to do because they'll gently caress up NPCs / plots / items you only get one shot at

spoiler-free would be nice but i don't mind if it's spoilery either, i just want something that puts all the NO DONT's in one place

Don't join (actually it's spending a pale tongue for) red bros before Sirris gives you Darkmoon Loyalty

Don't kill the tree boss until you join mound makers

Always be embered so you can get cool invader-only armor

Kite Pride Worldwide
Apr 20, 2009


Tuxedo Catfish posted:

i haven't actually done anri's questline beyond meeting him/her and horace at the crucifixion road bonfire, but having been spoiled on the general direction it takes a very :haw: thought occurs to me

if you meet anri and then swap genders with rosario's covenant can you gay marry anri

You can't swap gender.

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


Tuxedo Catfish posted:

i haven't actually done anri's questline beyond meeting him/her and horace at the crucifixion road bonfire, but having been spoiled on the general direction it takes a very :haw: thought occurs to me

if you meet anri and then swap genders with rosario's covenant can you gay marry anri

you can't change genders with rosaria's rebirth :(

Spooky Bear Ghost
Sep 17, 2010

lets get spooky
Some dude just black crystalled me out after we got to the second part of sully? :confused:

Obligatum VII
May 5, 2014

Haunting you until no 8 arrives.

Lotish posted:

So there's some stuff in the lava not far from where you meet Knight Slayer Tsorig. Am i just supposed to put on my best fire resist gear, slap on Flash Sweat, and rush over to them, or is there a trick like you could do in the Old Iron King's castle in DS2?

Yup, and chug estus like a madman. The items are an ember and the sacred flame pyromancy, which is pretty amusing but kind of hard to hit cause it's basically a punch in terms of hitbox. There's another lava pool with toxic mist (only way I know if to inflict toxic as a player. That I've seen, anyways) and a miracle/pyromancy catalyst. You can find the stairs to it next to where you find the pyromancy tome in the ruins.

TopHatGenius
Oct 3, 2008

something feels
different

Hot Rope Guy

Spooky Bear Ghost posted:

Some dude just black crystalled me out after we got to the second part of sully? :confused:

People who do this poo poo are the worst.

I've ran with a few people who would black crystal me away after I got them to the boss door. :mad:

The Lord of Hats
Aug 22, 2010

Hello, yes! Is being very good day for posting, no?
gently caress you, stupid goat man with bullshit damage attacks! I'm tired of wading past a bunch of basilisks to have you snap my neck!

Edit: Of course I realize right after posting that that I was taking the long way around and didn't need to even run into him.

Fargin Icehole
Feb 19, 2011

Pet me.
Lost to the Deacons. I was maybe six hits away until I got turned into crystal.

Any way to avoid that? Or is that pretty much a burn phase and that maybe I ought to have a Cursebite ring?

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

TopHatGenius posted:

I've ran with a few people who would black crystal me away after I got them to the boss door. :mad:

This is why they should of kept the small soapstone. It was perfect for people that just wanted a little assistance, not an escort for the entire level and boss.

Fargin Icehole posted:

Lost to the Deacons. I was maybe six hits away until I got turned into crystal.

Any way to avoid that? Or is that pretty much a burn phase and that maybe I ought to have a Cursebite ring?

As soon as the second phase starts just bumrush the boss and beat the crap out of him. He doesn't have much health.

Nihilarian
Oct 2, 2013


Oh, now that I have Lightning Enchant available maybe I should give Faith another try

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

ShadowMar posted:

you can't change genders with rosaria's rebirth :(

that'll learn me to trust random guides / threads / third-tier wikis

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

ShadowMar posted:

you can't change genders with rosaria's rebirth :(

Time to learn cheat engine fuckery!

An Actual Princess
Dec 23, 2006

Fargin Icehole posted:

Lost to the Deacons. I was maybe six hits away until I got turned into crystal.

Any way to avoid that? Or is that pretty much a burn phase and that maybe I ought to have a Cursebite ring?

It's generally unnecessary, but if you kill one of the guys standing there channeling into the sky, the curse buildup will stop

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Spooky Bear Ghost posted:

Some dude just black crystalled me out after we got to the second part of sully? :confused:

Does black crystaling out at least lower the boss' health back to normal? That'd really suck if it doesn't.

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


Nuebot posted:

Time to learn cheat engine fuckery!

tbh i'd just use it to change boy anri to girl anri if possible

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
They should of just had Anri be a guy no matter what.

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


Internet Kraken posted:

They should of just had Anri be a guy girl no matter what.

Obligatum VII
May 5, 2014

Haunting you until no 8 arrives.
I've made a game of my co-oping for medals, specifically, the fight I have chosen, I race the host and try to refine my ability to speed run this particular encounter

Ancient Wyvern. It's pretty funny to just haul rear end and ignore everything with well timed dodges. Phantoms can do the headstab too. I consider it a victory if I beat the host to it.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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The Lord of Hats posted:

gently caress you, stupid goat man with bullshit damage attacks! I'm tired of wading past a bunch of basilisks to have you snap my neck!

Edit: Of course I realize right after posting that that I was taking the long way around and didn't need to even run into him.

Those guys are the worst. Every other kind of those poison-goats are about right. Those guys are fuckers, mostly from what the camera does when they jump.

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Oh poo poo. Mound Maker Covenant reward is legit.

But I'm a quality build, so this isn't useful for me, is it? Is this the Chikage!?

Spooky Bear Ghost
Sep 17, 2010

lets get spooky

RatHat posted:

Does black crystaling out at least lower the boss' health back to normal? That'd really suck if it doesn't.

His health didn't change at all, which I'd assume it would when it happened. I assume it set it at the start and doesnt change. Sucks for him tho cause he was a shieldbaby and that fight specifically punishes turtles.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Is clerics candlestick worth a poo poo? I'm digging straight swords right now but i don't know if this thing sounds worthwhile at all?

E: oh faith req never mind. It looks dumb anyways

veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Apr 20, 2016

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

I love that there are ashes just for buying more poop.

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


RBA Starblade posted:

I love that there are ashes just for buying more poop.

i was extremely disappointed that ash didn't have any unique dialogue

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

ShadowMar posted:

tbh i'd just use it to change boy anri to girl anri if possible

I wouldn't even begin to know how to do that one specifically, but there are definitely values for your character being male or female considering you could switch in the previous games on the fly with cheat engine.

Grizzled Patriarch
Mar 27, 2014

These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.



Manatee Cannon posted:

if you think the host has a posse then you did not actually read what I said. when it's 1v1 and they don't use a seed of seed of giants (which can happen, you're right, but it's unlikely), the host is obviously at a disatvantage. summoning helpers more than evens the odds, which is why people do it, which is what I said

I wouldn't say a host using Seed of Giants is at all unlikely. The vast majority of invasions I've done in the back half of the game have involved the host using a seed. They are ridiculously easy to get this time around, and most people have figured that out by the halfway point or so.

Even a 1v1 fight where the host refuses to leave the room puts the invader at a massive disadvantage. Having half the health and half the estus charges is an insanely big deal considering how easy it is to roll away and heal without being punished. You have to deal waaay more damage to win unless they are too dumb to get out of the way and heal.

But yeah the biggest issue is that everyone just posts up beside a bonfire and the nearest hostile enemy is a mile away, and very few people are dumb enough to chase an invader into a mob.

I'd say it's still a better PvP experience overall than Bloodborne for me, but the lag / phantom hits are just as bad as ever and they seem intent on giving the host more and more advantages with each game. So basically DS3's PvP has higher highs and lower lows, I guess. The big chaotic fights where the host uses the finger are awesome, and the ones where 3 phantoms hide in a bonfire room are easily the worst PvP experiences of the series.

ShadowMar posted:

i was extremely disappointed that ash didn't have any unique dialogue

The item description is pretty gross, at least. Why is the shrine maiden huffing this pile of ashy turds.

Grizzled Patriarch fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Apr 20, 2016

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
What's the best place to farm a harpe?


But then he wouldn't be gay lovers with Horace and that ruins my head canon.

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

:matters:


kikkelivelho posted:

I do actually like gimmick fights in general. Some of them are just far to simple in DS3, like Wolnir and Yhorm.

I was really disappointed by both of these, I guess I've been trained to expect some sort of crazy second phase when the first/only phase is that easy

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


Internet Kraken posted:

But then he wouldn't be gay lovers with Horace and that ruins my head canon.

but i need her to be my gay lover

who i stabbed in the head with a sword

...hm...

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Goddamn you motherfuckers won't even believe but the Lucerne is a pvp murder machine.

Least, way too many newbies don't know what to do with its moveset. But I'm wrecking folks, I may just go ahead and max out this covenant tonight.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Nihilarian posted:

Oh, now that I have Lightning Enchant available maybe I should give Faith another try

honestly the best miracles are the buffs so I'd stick with a different infusion

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

ShadowMar posted:

i was extremely disappointed that ash didn't have any unique dialogue

"Gracious. Passing fine gas- er, ash, this is." and that's the only line that changes

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Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

I LIKE TO SMOKE WEE posted:

I was really disappointed by both of these, I guess I've been trained to expect some sort of crazy second phase when the first/only phase is that easy

Well the alternative is gimmick fights like Bed of Chaos I guess. Did they fire the guy who made all the cool fights in Demon's Souls?

Speaking of second phases though, I was totally expecting Wolnir to bust out a giant sword or something and go nuts when I broke his bling. That fight was over super, super fast.

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