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twistedmentat posted:True, but Laura needs someone to just hang out and eat pizza and watch netflix with and stuff. A Nightcrawler to her Wolverine. Maybe they can start up a new verison of the Defenders with Wolverine, Squirrel Girl, Hawkeye, Ms America, Hellcat and Valkyrie. Honestly, I really hate that Bendis dragged her back into X-Men in the first place. Her whole arc had been about her finding her own place outside the X-Men, but then she gets turned into a prop. I mean, I'm not sure the alternative (Avengers Undercover) was any better, but honestly I'd be perfectly happy if she just went away into her solo book. specially since in ANXM she's generic Tough Girl #23. She don't need no X-Men. Also I looked at that preview art again and ohmygod Gabby apparently has a pet Wolverine (the animal).
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Yvonmukluk posted:Honestly, I really hate that Bendis dragged her back into X-Men in the first place. Her whole arc had been about her finding her own place outside the X-Men, but then she gets turned into a prop. I mean, I'm not sure the alternative (Avengers Undercover) was any better, but honestly I'd be perfectly happy if she just went away into her solo book. specially since in ANXM she's generic Tough Girl #23. She don't need no X-Men. Oh yea. My hope is that she is on non-xmen teams, maybe when they reorganize the Avengers, she can be on one of their teams. I'd love to see her and Cap together, also Laura and Kamala would be very interesting to see together as well. While I like her on All New, I would have prefered if they had taken someone else to be the Girl on the team. Aformentioned Tempest or even hope could have filled that role. Something X-men needs despratly is a 100% school book. Extraordinary kinda does it, but I want to see the kids going to class, I want to see Illyana trying to teach a class and so on. Even if it was a limited series I want to see some soap opera drama in X-men again.
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What X-Men needs is something like a 0.99 biweekly digital comic so they can afford to do an actual book that picks up on the six thousand decent characters they've generated over the last thirty years.
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Wanderer posted:What Marvel needs is something like a 0.99 biweekly digital comic so they can afford to do an actual book that picks up on the six thousand decent characters they've generated over the last thirty years. Fixed that for you.
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This is such a minor complaint, but it bugs me that Glob Herman in Extraordinary X-Men is just Rockslide-- same general attitude, same bantery relationship with Anole, etc. I can't imagine that Jeff Lemire wasn't allowed to use Rockslide since as far as I know he isn't up to anything anywhere else, so it just seems like sort of a pointless rehash.
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Jeff Lemire Doesn't Know How To Write Any Of These Characters: The Comic
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Because there's a deep and well established canon for Glob loving Herman. Extraordinary X-Men is fine. Maybe Anole will get to do stuff other than being inoffensively gay and punch one thing with his big arm now that he's Savage Dragon.
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twistedmentat posted:Something X-men needs despratly is a 100% school book. Extraordinary kinda does it, but I want to see the kids going to class, I want to see Illyana trying to teach a class and so on. Even if it was a limited series I want to see some soap opera drama in X-men again. The weirdest thing to me is that ANXM feels the closest to a school book even though it's got nothing to do with the school. Marvel, please promote the good X-books more and put better teams on the mediocre ones. ![]()
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Cabbit posted:Because there's a deep and well established canon for Glob loving Herman. I don't see how him not having a defined character makes him ripping off another one better but okay. But that is because EX X-men is a bad comic so whatever.
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My eye twitches uncontrollably every time Ernst appears in books nowadays because apparently zero people understand that she was supposed to be Cassandra Nova, but otherwise the issue was fine. "It's globbering time" was pretty great.
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They know, they just threw that away like Xorn and Magneto. They also made Martha Johansson No-Girl when that was clearly supposed to be someone else at first. Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Apr 21, 2016 |
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Blockhouse posted:Jeff Lemire Doesn't Know How To Write Any Of These Characters: The Comic He's not Bendis levels yet, but yeah it can feel like it at times. I think Lemire is great on solo characters but if he has to research a whole team of characters he just goes "gently caress it, lets just assign personalities/backstories and hope they line up".
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BrianWilly posted:My eye twitches uncontrollably every time Ernst appears in books nowadays because apparently zero people understand that she was supposed to be Cassandra Nova, but otherwise the issue was fine. I read that this idea has been pretty much forgotten and no writer even cares about it now.
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BrianWilly posted:My eye twitches uncontrollably every time Ernst appears in books nowadays because apparently zero people understand that she was supposed to be Cassandra Nova, but otherwise the issue was fine. Aphrodite posted:They know, they just threw that away like Xorn and Magneto.
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No-girl was always Martha Johannson, I don't think she's ever been referred to as anything else ever. That goes back to Generation Hope if I remember correctly.
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No Girl and Martha Johansson predate Generation Hope by like 10 years. They're more Morrison characters. No-Girl was originally an undetectable mutant in Xorn's class, and it was implied she was just a prank the students were pulling. But then Xorn sees and speaks to her. There are also times the students refer to her as a separate person from Martha when Xorn isn't around. Apparently though it was Morrison himself who made them the same person later on. Yvonmukluk posted:I thought No-Girl was supposed to be Cassandra Nova? Whichever one was the disembodied brain. Martha Johansson is the brain, and now she's also No-Girl. She was never implied to be Cassandra though, that was Ernst, the old woman looking girl with off-panel super strength.
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Relevant panel![]() I always took it to mean that No-Girl was Martha's superhero alias and was a distinct personality that she would use to communicate with people, but Ernst and Martha also used her as an in-joke to prank the students.
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Was Martha always a brain in a jar? I can't remember the details of her introduction beyond her being a pawn of John Sublime and the U-Men (great band), whose entire gimmick was nicking mutant body parts and grafting them to themselves so I've always assumed she had a body until Sublime took her brain out.
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She was introduced as the brain, but her powers didn't cause her to not have a body or anything. Sublime removed her brain. In one issue of Spider-Man and the X-Men you see what she really looked like because she's projecting her image into someone's mind or something.
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BrianWilly posted:My eye twitches uncontrollably every time Ernst appears in books nowadays because apparently zero people understand that she was supposed to be Cassandra Nova, but otherwise the issue was fine. She... was?
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In the Imperial arc, Jean tricks Cassandra Nova into the shi'ar Stuff's body (some kind of weird polymorph with recording/impersonation abilities) which ends up re-setting her cognitive functions to the state of a child. We last see her being psychically re-educated. In the next few issues Ernst shows up, and it's revealed in the final arc that she's basically the re-educated Nova in the guise of Xavier's sister, but now with his ideals. (Ernst is also conveniently an anagram for Stern, as in a stern headmistress) Also none of this makes any sense with Whedon's follow-up on Astonishing. hope and vaseline fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Apr 21, 2016 |
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Aphrodite posted:She was introduced as the brain, but her powers didn't cause her to not have a body or anything. Sublime removed her brain. She was protecting Spider-Man from Rachael I think. Why Marvel didn't give Kalan another book after that I don't know.
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He's not new or different enough. Or something.
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twistedmentat posted:She was protecting Spider-Man from Rachael I think. Might be real busy with his podcast and tv show
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hope and vaseline posted:In the Imperial arc, Jean tricks Cassandra Nova into the shi'ar Stuff's body (some kind of weird polymorph with recording/impersonation abilities) which ends up re-setting her cognitive functions to the state of a child. We last see her being psychically re-educated. In the next few issues Ernst shows up, and it's revealed in the final arc that she's basically the re-educated Nova in the guise of Xavier's sister, but now with his ideals. (Ernst is also conveniently an anagram for Stern, as in a stern headmistress) He also reintroduced the giant Genosha-destroying Sentinel in the Danger arc, under the premise that "No one wondered where it went?"...except that Morrison established exactly where that Sentinel went during that issue where Jean and Xavier found Polaris in Genosha's ruins. ![]()
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bobkatt013 posted:Might be real busy with his podcast and tv show Or baby. Though what TV show, he left TDS. Though the Flophouse can't be that hard, it's like he totally makes the letters songs up as he goes along!
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I kind of imagine Spidey has Eliot's voice.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:I kind of imagine Spidey has Eliot's voice. So in this scenario Dan is Cap and Stuart is Tony Stark?
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twistedmentat posted:So in this scenario Dan is Cap and Stuart is Tony Stark? I think I'd flip the two honestly. Also, another vote for giving Kalan another book. Put him in charge of Extraordinary, gently caress it!
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How can the guy who cracks open a beer on mic then talks about ding dongs in an ad for the show not be Stark?
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twistedmentat posted:So in this scenario Dan is Cap and Stuart is Tony Stark? ... Yes.
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Edit: wrong thread.
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I'm listening to old episodes of "X-Plain the X-Men," and after hearing Kurt Busiek's pitch about it, I'm almost too invested in the idea of Scott Summers, Mutant Radio Pundit.
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Wanderer posted:I'm listening to old episodes of "X-Plain the X-Men," and after hearing Kurt Busiek's pitch about it, I'm almost too invested in the idea of Scott Summers, Mutant Radio Pundit. I wish they would give him a what if book on that.
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I'm on board if Cyclops gains at least 50 pounds and grows his hair out really stupid.
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Wanderer posted:I'm listening to old episodes of "X-Plain the X-Men," and after hearing Kurt Busiek's pitch about it, I'm almost too invested in the idea of Scott Summers, Mutant Radio Pundit. What we have here, dear listener, is a clear case of the Inhuman agenda!
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Wanderer posted:I'm listening to old episodes of "X-Plain the X-Men," and after hearing Kurt Busiek's pitch about it, I'm almost too invested in the idea of Scott Summers, Mutant Radio Pundit. Didn't listen to the podcast, but the idea of Scott Summers as the Fox News Dad of the X-men is awesome.
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If Marvel resurrected Scott and had him ditch the X-Men and just become mutant Alex Jones or Glenn Beck, the X-Men would become great again.
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DrProsek posted:If Marvel resurrected Scott and had him ditch the X-Men and just become mutant Alex Jones or Glenn Beck, the X-Men would become great again. You should wear that on a hat and run for Marvel's Editor position.
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So I'm curious, when did the X-Men comics abandon the idea of trying to make mutant powers conceivably (even at a stretch) biological? Like they went from wings, mind powers and big feet to technopathy... And Maggott. Who broke the dam? Cyclops was already pushing it, but they did try to explain it with sunlight and energy metabolization etc. etc. I'd say it has to be Nightcrawler at the latest, but was there someone earlier?
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