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1990 is old enough the average Mazda dealer *might* have one tech who heard about it once reading a technical magazine. Just watch the crankshaft nose run, if it's wobbling around like crazy don't buy it, or prepare to replace the engine. A video of a wobbly crank, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P75feCy_MRM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tteqBH4jgo4 The loctite fix could work, but it is just a stop gap. You could replace the whole crankshaft, but it is a lot easier and affordable to get a whole new engine and put it in. If the crankshaft isn't wobbling, really do your research first. The usual cause blamed is the timing belt being replaced and incorrect torque values followed. I have a 90 with 161k miles and the crank is perfect right now. The previous owner had inspected the keyway, found no damage, and still did the loctite fix with an album of pictures for proof. We spent almost 20 minutes just talking about it. He was a little obsessive, but ask the current owner about the SNC. If they don't know or try to play dumb with you, they may be trying to dump off a car with problems. The whole problem probably is overblown anyways.
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TrinityOfDeath posted:The previous owner had inspected the keyway, found no damage, and still did the loctite fix with an album of pictures for proof. Don't you only get a problem with the SNC if someone overtorques the bolt? Do you still need to do the loctite fix on a healthy one?
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# ? Apr 23, 2016 22:23 |
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Interesting thread about the issue here http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=206168 Seems like I should: - check for wobble - ask the owner about short nose crank - probably get a mazda shop to do the loctite fix as a preventative measure.
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# ? Apr 23, 2016 23:10 |
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Femtosecond posted:
I don't know if any shops would really touch this. Its basically a stopgap ghetto fix that isn't removable in the event you need to redo anything. You would also only do this if the crank keyway is already worn and the pulley is wobbling. Its not a preventative thing.
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Laranzu posted:I don't know if any shops would really touch this. Its basically a stopgap ghetto fix that isn't removable in the event you need to redo anything. You would also only do this if the crank keyway is already worn and the pulley is wobbling. Its not a preventative thing. Yeah this is the opinion of the car owner. I asked about the issue and he knew all about it. His opinion was "dont touch it" and "if it was faulty it would have broken by now." Car was in crazy good shape. No real issues at all aside from a slightly torn edge of a door handle. I put a deposit down to buy it tomorrow.
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Femtosecond posted:- probably get a mazda shop to do the loctite fix as a preventative measure. No need to do that, here are some preventative things you can do: http://www.miata.net/garage/crankshaft.html quote:If you want to use the hope-for-the-best-if-I-don't-want-to-touch-it method of car maintenance, here are some simple guidelines: I have a 90 with 243k km that has a lot of deferred maintenance and it's been running like a top if that makes you feel any better. Edit: quote:REGULAR REPLACEMENT OF THE BOLT RECOMMENDED Bulk Vanderhuge fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Apr 24, 2016 |
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Hikaki posted:Don't you only get a problem with the SNC if someone overtorques the bolt? Do you still need to do the loctite fix on a healthy one? I'm not an expert. I have read it comes from over/under torquing the bolt, inserting the key upside down, or not putting the key in far enough. My crank doesn't wobble so I don't worry about, and I don't plan to mess with it until I have too. He just loc tited the crank bolt in place, not any key way repair.
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# ? Apr 24, 2016 02:30 |
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Hi. I think I want a miata. But I don't want to spend too much on one. What is a good miata for about 10K? Is that even a thing? Thanks miata crew!
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 05:07 |
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Finally figured out my misfire. I replaced the crank sensor since that's what I got a code for, but apparently it's just there to tell you "you have a misfire". No poo poo. Checked the coils over good with no signs of burning, and cleaned off the plugs which were a bit sooted from all the misfiring apparently. After driving it around some and getting it warmed up it felt like a fueling issue, so I decided to fill the tank with fresh 93 since it has been sitting almost a year with less than a quarter tank. loving runs almost perfect now, just some hesitation starting out in first gear but then revs up fine. Drove it to work and feels like it's getting better every time I drive it. Must have been a bad batch of gas and/or water in the fuel I suppose.
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 05:49 |
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TheReverend posted:Hi. Yeah thats a thing. You could have just about any Miata for that price range. Cherry NA/NB or great NC. http://miata.net/garage/garagebuying.html
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 06:10 |
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I'd go for the nicest NB2 I could find for 10k.
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leica posted:I'd go for the nicest NB2 I could find for 10k. Yeah me too. Just go sit in some and see what you like. In other news. Swapped to the Megasquirt today. Got it to show up on the laptop. Just need some vacuum hose to get MAP readings.
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 06:24 |
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Oh hey one import component here, I'm going to drive this to work 55 miles away. Every day. 5 days a week. Would that be doable? How high in mileage should I be looking at? Sorry for my idiocy.
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 06:34 |
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Depends on where you live, but if it's anywhere in the city or suburbs, no way I'd DD a Miata with a commute like that.
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 06:41 |
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Why is that? note: I've never even driven a miata.
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 06:44 |
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Miatas can be fun to drive but not in the city or around the suburbs, especially if there's a lot of stop and go. The car excels in corners and twisty roads. They're also not the most comfortable car to drive in for long periods of time. Assuming you get stick, it can be pretty annoying in traffic too. If it gets cold where you live, it's also a convertible. How tall are you? It's not exactly great for tall people either. With a commute like that, I would recommend getting a DD like a corolla or civic and then having the Miata for the weekends.
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 06:51 |
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I'm remarkably exceedingly average at 5'10". My current vehicle is a Chevrolet Avalanche so I gotta figure something out ( sounds like it's civic time).
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 06:54 |
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TheReverend posted:Why is that? Go sit in some. Easiest way to see if you will like it.
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leica posted:After driving it around some and getting it warmed up it felt like a fueling issue, so I decided to fill the tank with fresh 93 since it has been sitting almost a year with less than a quarter tank. loving runs almost perfect now, just some hesitation starting out in first gear but then revs up fine. Drove it to work and feels like it's getting better every time I drive it. Must have been a bad batch of gas and/or water in the fuel I suppose. Did you have any Sta-Bil or Seafoam in the tank during storage? TheReverend posted:Oh hey one import component here, Ignore the haters, this is totally doable. I'm about 5'9" and fit comfortably in an NA/NB. My '97 got about 26 mpg and my '05 with a turbo gets ~25 mpg, both averages; during a couple of rare long-distance trips they both got over 30 mpg. You should expect to burn almost 4 gallons each day, then, and since the tank holds ~12 gallons you're looking at filling up twice a week. While your fuel efficiency and driving experience totally depend on the complexity of your commute, it sounds like you're going to be doing mostly highway driving rather than stop & go; this means you should expect decent fuel economy (for a surprisingly inefficient car) as described above. On top of that, your commute will probably be a little boring but not unbearable; take my advice and install a good audio system and you'll be fine. Your level of satisfaction with a Miata will ultimately depend on your weather; if you can put the top down most of the time (bring a hat/visor!) you'll love it.
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Atomizer posted:Did you have any Sta-Bil or Seafoam in the tank during storage? No, but I wasn't anticipating it being laid up for so long. It was already showing the symptoms before I stopped driving it though.....I'm thinking that maybe the fuel pump is giving out. quote:Ignore the haters, this is totally doable. I'm about 5'9" and fit comfortably in an NA/NB. Of course it's doable, depends on the person, for me no way that's what my Camry is for. Also never driving a Miata before and coming from an Avalanche? That's one extreme to the next. I don't know if I'd be jumping into a long commute in a Miata if I were him.
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 08:13 |
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For what its worth, I deliver pizza in an NB so I'm doing stop and go suburb driving (admittedly, 'burbs in the mountains with lots of twisty roads and limited police presence) for about 5-6 hours and around 100 miles a night. When the weather is its loving fantastic and I cant believe I get paid to do it. When its cold or raining it gets a little claustrophobic inside and our short winter was significantly less fun than I'd hoped. That said, get in one first and take it for the longest test drive you can get away with. Not just twisty funtime roads. Get stuck in traffic somewhere so you can see if you can put up with the car at its worst.
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 08:59 |
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So I've dailied my miata since I got it, part of that was all highway, part was nothing but stop and go city driving. I found it perfectly suitable in both cases. However I have a PRHT GT NC. For 10k with the need to commute, I would be looking for a GT NC1. PRHT is going to be difficult to find at that price point.
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I DD'd my NB to work, and I had about 2-3 hours each way through San Francisco / Silicon Valley traffic. It kept me warm and dry during the occasional rain, but it also had a brand new top, which probably makes a difference. Also, mine's an automatic - which some around here consider heresy - but since it was a "sit in traffic car" for 24+ hours a week it made sense for me. The auto trans actually has a really good feel, all things considered, and you can fake a downshift by pressing the overdrive button if you need to set up a pass.
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 20:17 |
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I DD my '13 NC every day and it's half clear back roads and half bumper to bumper traffic. It's not the most comfortable car in the world but it's perfectly fine for the traffic parts and absolutely fantastic at the clear parts. The manual doesn't bother me in traffic, I don't even think about it. The ride is a lot better than the fiesta st which has become my wife's car after selling her lovely jetta.
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# ? Apr 28, 2016 23:12 |
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I'm a wierdo who thinks manuals are more comfortable in traffic because you're car doesn't accelerate by itself . The nc also has a really light clutch pedal... I think as a DD traffic is much less of a problem than the car being tragically limited by snow and cargo space If you do DD it, take care to watch out for reversing trucks....
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 02:42 |
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leica posted:No, but I wasn't anticipating it being laid up for so long. It was already showing the symptoms before I stopped driving it though.....I'm thinking that maybe the fuel pump is giving out. Low power/almost stalling at low rpms but fine enough if you rev and dump the clutch? That's what mine was doing when the fuel pump was going out.
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TheNothingNew posted:Low power/almost stalling at low rpms but fine enough if you rev and dump the clutch? That's what mine was doing when the fuel pump was going out. Yep, that's exactly what it's doing, though a little more subtle. I don't have to dump the clutch, but I do have to get the revs higher than normal.
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leica posted:Yep, that's exactly what it's doing, though a little more subtle. I don't have to dump the clutch, but I do have to get the revs higher than normal. If it's the fuel pump, it will get progressively worse over time (except when it runs perfectly for no discernible reason). Sure sounds like it though. Can't offer any more help I'm afraid, had a shop handle it. Working with gas spooks me. Also no garage at that time.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 04:52 |
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TheNothingNew posted:
I found my fuel pump by accident taking apart rusted panels on the parcel shelf one day. I like easy to replace things and apparently have no fear of gas tanks.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 05:09 |
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Yeah it's an easy job, It's just a matter of when I feel like doing it. After finally fixing all the other poo poo I'm just burned out on cars at the moment
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https://twitter.com/ABC7/status/725896719934717952?ref_src=twsrc
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Haha that's loving awesome
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 05:27 |
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Is the mob of people for or against Trump? I can't imagine a Miata owner is much of a Trump supporter.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 05:31 |
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ethanol posted:If you do DD it, take care to watch out for reversing trucks.... Basically treat the road as if you are on a motorcycle, , because people will consistently not see you. If you keep that in mind, the Miata is quick enough to get out of the way or stop quick enough to avoid trouble. TheReverend, if you're driving 55 miles a day, I'd highly recommend an NC. It's gonna have more creature comforts and have a bit more space.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 05:58 |
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Thanks, If I have time this weekend, I'm going to go visit a Mazda dealership. We used to have a Ford/Mazda hybrid dealership in my dumb town but now it's Ford only.
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Artemis J Brassnuts posted:I DD'd my NB to work, and I had about 2-3 hours each way through San Francisco / Silicon Valley traffic. It kept me warm and dry during the occasional rain, but it also had a brand new top, which probably makes a difference. Also, mine's an automatic - which some around here consider heresy - but since it was a "sit in traffic car" for 24+ hours a week it made sense for me. The auto trans actually has a really good feel, all things considered, and you can fake a downshift by pressing the overdrive button if you need to set up a pass. There's nothing wrong with ATs, some people prefer them. In a related topic, what brand of tampon do you use? Nice job! I didn't realize you still had an NA though! Seat Safety Switch posted:Is the mob of people for or against Trump? I can't imagine a Miata owner is much of a Trump supporter. Supposedly those were anti-Trump protesters. Maybe the dude just wanted to do some donuts! I'm surprised how close he got to some of those people, though.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 08:10 |
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Is the mob of people for or against Trump? I can't imagine a Miata owner is much of a Trump supporter. You underestimate how bro-y MT.net and CR can be.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 12:54 |
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Holy poo poo, the Abarf is cheaper than the Grand Touring trim. No regrets. Not taking a 100lb penalty.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 14:44 |
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I don't like anything about the decision space around ND's due to options/pricing/targa/brand
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Phone posted:Holy poo poo, the Abarf is cheaper than the Grand Touring trim. Imagine how cheap they'll get when nobody buys them!
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