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Is Cut+Fire any good? Does it average out the resistances to both, or what?
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Glazius posted:Is Cut+Fire any good? Does it average out the resistances to both, or what? The game just picks whatever element would hit the target the hardest. If an enemy has 25% Cut resistance but 150% Fire resistance, the game would consider the Fire resistance when calculating fire damage. It doesn't really matter though because elemental weapons only apply to normal attacks. Putting this thing on Zack wouldn't suddenly make Hurricane deal Cut+Fire damage, for example.
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That's something I've noticed about EO2U as a whole. Occasionally there'll be something new and interesting that wasn't in EO2, but either due to a lack of time or just  it's not nearly as good as it could be. Stuff like the elemental weapons only working on normal attacks (though admittedly, having something like a Cut+Ice katana and using Flame Grater to hit the best of 3 different elements seems kinda OP), the Ginnungagap bosses being reshuffled, Fafnir as a class being either  or  with no real in-between, the whole concept of giant sections of the map being DLC only... It seems that EO2U development was kinda rushed.
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Aniodia posted:That's something I've noticed about EO2U as a whole. Occasionally there'll be something new and interesting that wasn't in EO2, but either due to a lack of time or just I mean, the elemental weapons not affecting skills thing has been true ever since they were introduced in EO2 (I don't think there were any in EO1). I'm also evidently in the minority about the DLC sections since I think the floors on their own still work well enough without them. I do agree on the Ginnungagap boss stuff and Fafnir's power curve, though.
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Apr 14, 2016 20:25
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Ragnar Homsar posted:I mean, the elemental weapons not affecting skills thing has been true ever since they were introduced in EO2 (I don't think there were any in EO1). There were. And like the rest of the series, elemental weapons had no effect on skills either. But in that case, it was for balance reasons. Skills would have gotten a massive power boost due to how composite attacks had their own separate damage formula in EO1 instead of using the system we got now. The Frost King and Thunder Queen seem like the devs didn't want those assets to go to waste, so they just came up with some boss fights with them and just put them up as DLC.
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Apr 14, 2016 20:30
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Still begs the question of why they were removed in the first place. Having them be there instead of Basilisk and Arachne would make a lot of sense. Just make Bassie and Arachne the DLC ones instead.
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Update 35: I Couldn't Think of a Title Yep, we're finally going back into Yggdrasil proper after pretty much a real-life month of being stuck in secret areas the game didn't expect us to do as early as we did, and Ginnungagap.  Before we do that, though, let's set up some new ad campaigns, because I haven't done that in forever. I realize I'm really inconsistent with the restaurant stuff, I'll try to get better about it from here on out. Let's start by investing a little money in town development. Oh hello, that's new. Regina mentioned the Gourmet King quite a while back, but basically he'll sometimes show up in random wards, and he's your cue to just throw the most expensive food you have at the ward he's in, because it will sell a lot, regardless of the tastes of whatever groups are in the area at the time. He counts for getting better Grimoire Trade entries, too. ...I should've just thrown the most expensive food I have, but this'll do. And I got pretty lucky with him somehow being in two wards at once. Better. This should fit the Survivalists' tastes.  Shortcuts in the 4th Stratum look like these tiny wooden stumps. First Mine point of the floor. I dunno how you mine potatoes, but whatever. We're exploring a tree that has different sections inside/on top of it that have wildly different climates and are inhabited by all kinds of weird monsters, I don't think questioning logic is appropriate by this point. Here's a really small secret, containing... Another fight basically in front of a chest.   Waspior HP: 371, STR: 30, TEC: 23, VIT: 21, AGI: 32, LUC: 24 Skills:
Disable resistances: A dangerous bee with a poison-tipped needle. They travel in swarms! Firstly, say hi to the new battle music. In every EO game aside from EO3, the random encounter music changes once you hit the 4th Stratum (in EO3, it changes when you get to the 3rd Stratum, and then never changes again). I like Inspecting the Resounding Weapons, but that's about the extent of my opinion. (Neat bit of trivia: Inspecting the Resounding Weapons was originally intended for use in EO1--an early version was included with the "Sekaiju no Meikyuu PROTO-TYPE" CD given as a preorder bonus for EO1 in Japan.) Moving onto the actual fight itself, Waspiors are incredibly important enemies. Oh, not because of how they fight--they're honestly kind of boring aside from being pretty fast. No, take a moment to read what their conditional makes. Yep, Waspiors are what you'll have to farm to make Amritas. I'm lucky enough that I have a Hexer with maxed out Evil Eye, so getting a ton of these things even just doing normal exploration is going to be easy, but man, if you're playing Story mode, sucks to be you, since the only non-Grimoire method you have of doing that before late in the 5th Stratum is Random Disease. Waspiors really don't take much of a beating, what with only having 300 HP and 21 VIT. Any fight with Waspiors in them from now on, I'm going to deliberately avoid killing any of them on the first turn, and first inflicting fear on them. Amritas are really good consumables, and having a boatload of them in stock at Sitoth is always a good thing. SYSTEM: Could a lake or something like it have dried up? You see only sand in the cavity, apart from withered plants and flowers. Doubting that there is anything else here to be had, you decide to return to your investigation. We'll need to remember this spot for a quest later on. Prism Ladybug HP: 384, STR: 31, TEC: 25, VIT: 23, AGI: 33, LUC: 24 Skills:
Disable resistances: A giant ladybug with a shimmering shell. It summons the wind to protect itself from harm. Prism Ladybugs can make certain encounter groups a lot more annoying by making tough, hard-hitting enemies harder to inflict ailments on, and that's about the extent of what's interesting about them. These things really do not take much of a beating at all. Those were just normal attacks. The annoying thing about Amrita grinding is that Dense Syrups aren't a 100% drop rate. 80% is by no means bad, but it's still annoying enough that I want to comment on it. SYSTEM: You vaguely recall a story about something being buried under cherry blossom trees... SYSTEM: As you prepare to dig beneath the tree, you sense a malicious presence and take up arms. The threat reveals itself as a mighty swarm of bees streaming from the brush to surround you! SYSTEM: There is no escape from the swarm... You must stand and fight! Just two Waspiors? SYSTEM: Another wave of bees, as fierce as the last, is surrounding you once more! Cursing your ill-advised curiosity, you have no choice but to engage in battle again! I'm sure you get the point now. SYSTEM: There are more here than before, but this does seem to be the last of them... With the end of the battle finally in sight, you grip your weapons tighter to face the advancing enemies! Sure, it was tedious, but we got a lot of Dense Syrups out of it. SYSTEM: Quite some time later, you unearth a small hempen sack in the ground. You brush the dirt off it and look inside to find a book containing cooking recipes. You place the book with the rest of your things and quickly leave the area before another horde of monsters finds you. Fighting off a couple of bees was definitely worth it for this. SYSTEM: The bird has evidently not noticed you... It is not yet imperative that you flee. If you are curious about the bird, then you are free to try approaching it. Luminous Birds are kind of like Ambush Wolves--they change direction every couple of steps, and will aggro on us once we enter their line of sight. However, unlike Ambush Wolves, they ignore terrain, and will pass over gaps we cannot to get to us. Given that the path from here to that nest is just that small, 1-tile wide twist, evading the bird is effectively impossible. I don't feel like fighting it now, after having our TP depleted quite a bit by the bees, so I just go back to mapping out the central area.  Ptarmigan HP: 423, STR: 29, TEC: 28, VIT: 22, AGI: 24, LUC: 26 Skills:
Disable resistances: A small bird of the forest who hunts its prey with electricity. Ptarmigans can be a real nuisance if they decide to target your casters, since the base chance on Sealing Bolt is high enough that even their mediocre LUC doesn't matter a ton.  I decided to go back to town at this point to lighten our pack's load a little, and to rest up.   Luminous Bird HP: 9330, STR: 43, TEC: 43, VIT: 37, AGI: 36, LUC: 34 Skills:
Disable resistances: With its sharp beak and swift movements, these birds are more deadly than they seem... Luminous Birds suck if you don't have Blast Grenades, and are pretty big jokes if you do. As long as you have at least one way to stop Brutal Ray, you'll be fine. Their normal attacks hit pretty hard, but they're just normal attacks--as long as you remember to upgrade your party's armor (I'm still embarassed by that), you'll be fine. Sophie has a 28 LUC advantage on the Luminous Bird, so I'm basically 100% sure she'll bind the thing's head. I decided to have Freyja use Cuffs for slightly more damage, as a result. I'm banking on the fact that the Luminous Bird will just charge up on this turn, so I have Ursa cast Protection Vow. And like I just said, Sophie will try to bind the bird's head. Oh well. Immovable's kind of pointless here, honestly. Still gonna let Freyja try to handle arm binds. Evidently a mistake. Bleh. Even with a really good katana, Asriel's damage still isn't great. Probably time to rest him--in fact, I'm gonna do it at the end of the update. I just have Freyja switch to Trance + Ecstasy at this point. Jesus christ, that's 26% of the Luminous Bird's HP. Well, knowing my luck, one bind's probably fallen off. And of course it was the most important one. Eh, screw it. Good thing I keep some of these on hand. I'm obligated to screenshot every Ecstasy. Imagine this party with, like, Zack instead of Freyja. Bleh. Yeah, if you can kill that Luminous Bird, you can basically skip the entire floor. The entirety of the rest of the floor is supposed to lead you to how to lure the bird away from the nest blocking you from the exit. Might as well just activate the easy shortcut to the exit while we're here. The other mine point, which gives out Duck Nuts--quite possibly the silliest name for something I've ever heard. Another nest, and... Another Luminous Bird. I draw aggro from the Luminous Bird, firstly. And then I bolt for the door. Notice how the Luminous Bird is now at the other nest, rather than the one it started at. When we leave the room after drawing a Luminous Bird's aggro, it will just perch itself on the closest nest. This is how the puzzles on this floor work: figure out how to draw the Luminous Bird to a nest where it won't impedge your path.  Metal Tortoise HP: 1416, STR: 38, TEC: 27, VIT: 33, AGI: 17, LUC: 27 Skills:
Disable resistances: A giant turtle with a tough shell and even tougher jaws. Hey, look, a major annoyance. 1416 HP is already kind of a lot for a random encounter, and then we also have to deal with the fact that this thing has 75% resistance to all physical damage. Asriel thankfully has Flame Grater to speed things up a little, but that chews through quite a lot of his TP. How lucky. Like I said, it speeds things up, but not by a lot. Encounters like that make me miss Stardust. That would've been over so much more quickly with her. Onto the next room, where the intended solution is to get to the path near the door with nothing drawn beyond it, which will make the Luminous Bird settle in that nest, and then head for the other door we can see here. Killing the Luminous Bird (in a fight where nothing was really that different from the earlier one) is an option too. Still working on Auto-Lick. Oh, right. Remember how the Giant Ladybugs in the 1st Stratu could summon Rafflesias if they were left alone in a fight? Prism Ladybugs can do that, too! Except that Wrath Blooms are far less threatening to us now, relative to how threatening Rafflesias were to us on 3F. Cannibalize tries to kill another enemy in exchange for increasing the Wrath Bloom's physical/elemental attack, incidentally. Easy enough. And, for posterity, here's the room where we're supposed to be able to solve the last Luminous Bird puzzle. At this point, I went back to town to save, and because the trek to the stairs from that last room is longer than from the start of the floor. Ooh, this should be good. Good lord, that's more than we got for that Ginnungagap quest we just finished. We got a lot of guests in Grimoire Trade out of it, too. I opted to trade this Beast Roar Grimoire for an HP Up level 9 (+18% max HP) for Ursa... This Ecstasy Grimoire for a Curb ATK Up level 5 (1.23x multiplier applied to infliction chances) for Sophie... And this Hit-Taker Grimoire for a TP Up level 6 (+14% max TP) for Realga. Might as well use some of that money we just got to develop the town more. And I'm gonna try to get in the habit of consistently setting up ad campaigns before doing more explorations. NOW we're done with the floor. And back to town we go. Haughty doctor: We'll meet the rhinos she's talking about on 17F. Ostentatious woman:  I'd be careful about saying that. Theoretically, the action economy would be skewed in our favor, but there's only so much that advantage can afford when someone's massively above your level.  With all that out of the way, let's take on some quests. The item trade III: I forgot to do that in my recording. Whoops. The description gives away that they want us to make a Pattisa, anyway. Before the festivities: Playing Cupid III: We'll take care of that quest and 17F next time. Rea fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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Update 14: Fool Me Twice After beating Basilisk, the townsfolk have new stuff to say to us. Quona has nothing new to say, but here's an audio only conversation we can hear now.   And here's an audio only conversation that we can hear now.  And here's her 2nd Stratum audio conversation.  Here's Cass' audio conversation.  Here's the Guildmaster's audio conversation.   Perhaps some personal interrogation is in order. Fade to black.   Oh huh. Classic couldn't accept a mission until they reached 8th floor. Let's see what the Duke has to say normally.  Okay, let's see what this guy wants.  ...Huh.    I think that's enough to know about.  So a mission to save the Duke's life got reduced to a mere errand in Story Mode. Anyways, Dubois has something else to say to our party now that we've accepted the mission.  And here's Dubois' audio conversation.        Oh wait, we do see Hrothgar again in Story. Whoops.     Both innkeepers have something new to say after that. Let's talk to Quona first.  And now Hanna.     And here's Abigail's dialogue if you already sold the materials for Medicinal Research to her. Anyways, let's finally get back to the Labyrinth.    Now that plot is no longer barring our way, we can head to the 7th floor.     You agree to abandon the idea of mining the discolored wall and return to your investigation.   Upon inspection, it seems to be a small, furry animal in the shadow of a large plant. The animal shows no fear of your party and scampers right up to you with a bright squeal. This seems familiar.  As you debate, the small rodent looks up at you with its little, beady eyes... It's cocking its head slightly in a manner that's absolutely adorable. You are tempted to pet the cute creature...  Arianna has a point. Let's pet it! You kneel down and extend a hand gently, so as not to surprise it. But at that moment...!  The squirrel obediently runs off, albeit carrying something in its mouth as it goes.  Oh come on! That was actually my last one!  You decide to press on with your investigation, this time with renewed understanding of the forest's hazards. I'm not staying on this floor with no Ariadne Threads. Let's go back to town.  Since Ragnar missed Hanna's 7F dialogue, I'll show it off myself. Quona has nothing new to say. I could really get some rest right now.  As you sit there, you hear a knock at your door. Who could it be at this hour...?  And the next inn scene that we'll be seeing is Chloe's.       Let's have what Chloe's having.         Having both eaten until full, the two of you return to your rooms and rest in preparation for the next day. Abigail's and Regina's dialogue is the same as in Classic, but Cass has something new to say.   Marion also has additional dialogue if we talk to her again.   Back on the 7th floor...    Now that Arianna mentions it, it does seem as though the pile of leaves could be used as a bed. You try putting your hand into it, and find that the fallen leaves are soft and warm... You may lie down on this bed of fallen leaves or go on your way.  Let's take a rest. Since the area is not large, you take turns standing guard and dive into the pile of leaves, one by one. As you eagerly anticipate your turn on the bed of leaves, Flavio calls out the signal to you. At last, your turn has come, and you dive enthusiastically into the pile of fallen leaves! However...!  Your eyes well up with tears over a sharp, stabbing pain in your hand as you dig through the leaves. It is only then that you discover the nuts with vicious thorns on them littered throughout the pile. I blame the squirrel.  Their kindness stings even more now... You wonder what other hidden dangers may be waiting beneath the leaves. You decide against resting here any further and return to exploring. Chloe's statement is a hint on how you could have avoided that bad outcome. Our party's total LUC has to surpass a certain threshold, or Knight gets an injury. If they had enough LUC, we would have gotten a full heal instead.     It does not seem to threaten you at the moment, but you cannot say if or when the monster may change its mind. You make a note to be especially cautious of the monster's position as you travel through the area. I walk into its line of sight.     No sooner do you move away than a gout of flame, seemingly far too large for its size, spews from the monster's mouth! The flames hang in the air at the spot where you stood only a moment ago.  To pass through the lingering flames would surely injure you severely. You fix in your mind the monster's ability to breathe fire at nearby prey as you proceed onward. We'll explore the rest of the Stratum next time.
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I gotta give props to the localization. Chloe, Bertrand and Arianna both look like they could be annoying as gently caress if not for the writing. Seriously, what is Chloe even doing in her battle pose? Flavio will never be bad. Flavio is cool.
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As to Ragnar's question about how do you mine potatoes. Potatoes are commonly underground when harvested, it would stand to reason there's potatoes underground when you're mining the ground below your feet.
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Kemix posted:As to Ragnar's question about how do you mine potatoes. Potatoes are commonly underground when harvested, it would stand to reason there's potatoes underground when you're mining the ground below your feet. Welp. File that under "instances that show my memory is atrocious." SSNeoman posted:I gotta give props to the localization. Chloe, Bertrand and Arianna both look like they could be annoying as gently caress if not for the writing. I'd argue being annoying would've been not as bad as the EOU story party, where Arthur and Frederica are boring, and Simon is offensively boring.
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I agree on Arthur and Simon, but I'd say the Highlander is boring while Ricky is just a tend generic. It doesn't help that there's about a million questions that the story could address that it doesn't. Like why Ricky was chosen for the experiment instead of a scientist or something.
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Apr 17, 2016 22:18
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Does the Staff Mastery TP bonus work on Grimoires?
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Thanks for showing how you're "supposed" to deal with Luminous Birds after you wiped the floor with that one.
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Update 15: Into Salamander's Nest  Let's start out this update with a bit of cooking.  Dialogue merges here.  Self explanatory, and really not worth it. Bravants and Stonards only increase offense and defense by 30%. Several other skills give stronger buffs than that.    Dialogue merges here.  Useless. I have no idea what purpose the imbue foods are supposed to serve. I leave and then come back to Cafe.  After unlocking enough dishes, you'll witness a scene from Regina's little subplot about her restaurant. Far better than how EOU handled its scenes with the Guild House caretakers, where you pretty much just had to do busywork to grind up relationship points with them. Anyways, they're pretty abridged in Classic, but there's a lot more to them in Story.  get any better. Dialogue merges here.  That's what I would like to know as well.   Dialogue merges here.   Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here.  After witnessing a restaurant scene, the townsfolk will have new stuff to say. Hanna has no new dialogue for Story, but the Classic playthrough did miss Quona's.   The rest of the townsfolks' dialogue is the same as in Classic. Except for Dubois.  Anyways, back to the Labyrinth.   They seem aware of your presence, and one of them, the tall man, steps forth as if to protect the tanned woman.   Well, let's introduce ourselves first. You tell the black-clad man that you belong to the Guild Guild. The black-clad man narrows his eyes at you before speaking--almost spitting--his continued thoughts.  Oh he did not just say that. The black-clad man responds to your taunt with a fierce smirk.  Oh I am so up for a throw down! You see no reason to cower before the black-clad's man sharp tongue. You draw your own weapon and face him! A sense of menace fills the air between you and the elderly man... Any sudden movement and a battle could break out... and though he remains still, you can sense his immense strength! You are aware that you are at a disadvantage, yet you strengthen your resolve nonetheless...  With an odd cheer in her voice, the black-clad woman steps between you. Though she had allowed the tall man to stand guard over her prior to now, she turns a stern gaze at him. Though her tone is cheerful, she is firm with the man before turning to give you a friendly smile. You do recall hearing that the Grand Duchy obtained that information from a reliable source... Who could these two be? You put that question to the black-clad woman.  You have indeed heard the name before. They are widely known in High Lagaard as one of the most skilled guilds. Now knowing this, you begin to see why the pair before you has such a dignified air about them... With this cheerful farewell, the black-clad woman ascends the stairs, with the tall man following close behind.  Esbat leaves. Once they are well and truly gone, Chloe peeks her head out from behind Bertrand and mutters quietly. You are all disquieted by the implied warning in the Esbat woman's words as you return to your investigation... Well, let's go up to the 8th floor now.     Arianna checks your surroundings against the map as she hems and haws. She appears to be correct; if your map is to be believed, this must be the Salamander's dwelling place. Could it be due to the legendary fire beast's presence? You swallow at the intense heat of the air here... And for another reason as well: the dread presence lurking beyond this point is all too evident, even from here. Seeing that your guildmates have also stopped, you address them.  I'm pretty sure we can easily kill it. As you nod your agreement to his proviso, Flavio recalls something and continues. You fish the note out from your belongings and confirm its location on the map with Arianna.   Newly united in purpose, your guild moves to carry out the mission.     You are clearly within its sights, as it is glaring directly at you! Just feeling its terrifying presence is enough to make the sweat roll down your back... As you observe and comment upon the Salamander, its murderous gaze grows even stronger!      I'm sure we can take it. If you are certain of what must be done even despite Arianna's concerns, you are free to put your plan into action. Okay I know I said that we should kill Salamander and all that, but you really don't want to get into a fight with it. Trust me. Salamander Level: 63 HP: 23000 STR: 60 TEC: 55 VIT: 50 AGI: 41 LUC: 55 Damage resistances: Disable resistances: Take a good look at those stats. Even on Picnic, Salamander will utterly destroy your party at this point. And in case you're wondering, no, there isn't a crazy cheese method like wearing nothing but belts that will enable you to take it down now. Salmander is strictly a post-game boss. Don't bother with it until then.     It clearly hasn't snacked in a while. Having finished analyzing the situation, you spring into action to retrieve the feather and complete the mission.       Salamander's fire breath will push you all the way back and deal a heavy amount of damage. Yeah, don't get hit by it.      ......As you brush aside the grass, you find something giving off an odd gleam within. It is not the light catching the grass... The hard gleam catches your eye, and you dig deeper. Your efforts are rewarded with the discovery of a strange feather glinting with the colors of the rainbow!  Mission accomplished. You call out to your comrades that you have found what the party seeks.  You decide to return to town for the time being to deliver the Fire Plume to the Minister at the Grand Duchy.   Having accomplished your goal here in the Labyrinth, you now need to return to the Grand Duchy to report your results. Okay, fine. Let's go back to town.  All the townsfolk have some new dialogue after your meeting with Esbat. Then they switch over to their floor 8 dialogue. Hanna's is the same as in Classic.  After that roasting, I could use a nap.  As you sit there, you hear a knock at your door. Who could it be at this hour...?  It's Flavio's turn now.   No.      Get off of there.       Hey, get off of there.     She has new dialogue in Story if we talk to her again.     The Smallish woman is back in Story mode. Let's see what Cass has to say.   She has more dialogue if we talk to her again.    And he has more stuff to say if we talk to him a 2nd time.  Well, let's turn in that feather.      Money is always nice.  But so is the exp.  Hmm, I wonder if I'm underleveled if I got enough exp for 2 level ups.  Dubois leaves.  I have my doubts.   This is referring to the fact that Stratum bosses can respawn.    Let's get on with the plot.    Araxxor fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Apr 19, 2016 |
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 Fafnir is a class entirely new to EO2U that has something of a unique design, gameplay-wise. Fafnir is designed around the Force system, and the Force system in EO2U is, arguably, designed around Fafnir. Without Fafnir's Force Boost, Transform, he's one of the weakest classes in the game: low damage, low survivability, bad TP pool (although that applies to Transform as well), low speed, and susceptible to being disabled. During Transform, Fafnir is an entirely different story. With a lot of skill points and after a certain point in Story mode, Fafnir becomes, bar none, the single best damage class in the entire game. Barely anyone can keep up with him with regards to damage, not just because of Transform's innate damage boost, but because the skills that are available only during Transform have such ludicrous damage even without the damage boost. Transformed Fafnir also excels because of the fact that he relies almost solely on elemental damage, which is incredibly strong in EO2U. Part of why Fafnir is so strong is attributable to the fact that he's the only class exclusive to Story mode--you can't just create a new Fafnir in Classic without having beaten the game already, and using New Game+ on a Story file. In the Story party, Fafnir has to be strong, due to the Story party's default composition of 4 supports, one of which can conditionally deal good damage, while the other two can kind of contribute damage, but still not a lot. Fafnir in Classic mode, by extension, is kind of ridiculous, since you can put him in a more balanced party and, most importantly, pair him up with a Troubadour. I only need say this about how strong that duo is: Ranger and Milly, combined, were able to basically dual-handedly take down Basilisk in 4 turns, and Scylla, who has a massive HP pool and is a marathon of a fight in Story mode, in 5 turns. Stats: Level 1 HP: 33 TP: 19 STR: 9 TEC: 6 VIT: 6 AGI: 5 LUC: 5 Level 50 HP: 226 TP: 180 STR: 34 TEC: 31 VIT: 28 AGI: 20 LUC: 21 Level 99 HP: 516 TP: 341 STR: 66 TEC: 61 VIT: 56 AGI: 38 LUC: 40 Innate weapon choices: Innate armor choices: Common passives: HP Up, TP Up, Phys ATK Up, Elem ATK Up, Mine As mentioned above, Fafnir has absolutely terrible AGI and LUC, meaning he's slow as gently caress and is really susceptible to being hit with ailments and binds, mediocre VIT, meaning he can't take too many hits but won't die to a stiff breeze, and good STR and TEC. He's also fairly unique in that he can equip both swords and katanas--I usually stick with katanas since they provide bigger ATK boosts than swords. It's worth noting that Fafnir cannot reclass into another class, nor can he be reclassed into. Blade Mastery Requirements: None  Required to learn Fafnir attack skills. Passively increases damage dealt with swords and katanas. If the user knows some combination of Blade Mastery, Sword Mastery, and Katana Mastery, whichever passive gives the larget bonus is applied. Sonic Raid Requirements: Blade Mastery level 1 Required equipment: Sword or Katana Body parts used: Arms  Deals melee STR-based Cut damage to one enemy at the start of the turn. Has +10 base accuracy at all levels. A very basic skill, aside from the fact that it goes first in the turn order. It's very possible to have a few instances where an enemy is at really low HP and you just want to kill them very quickly, in which case Sonic Raid is useful. I wouldn't invest more than one point into it, though, especially given that Fafnir is incredibly skill point hungry. Gale Rush Requirements: Sonic Raid level 5 Required equipment: Sword or Katana Body parts used: Arms  Deals 2-3 instances of melee STR-based Cut damage to one enemy. Has a 200% speed modifier at all levels. Gale Rush is basically Fafnir's most consistent skill damage-wise outside of Transform, and that is both its blessing and its curse. While it's theoretically useful in the midgame, where Fafnir will be spending a lot of time untransformed, in the lategame it falls off significantly due to the fact that you'll most likely have several Force Mastery skills, plus Axcelas and potentially other party members who can manipulate Force. I'd personally advise ignoring Gale Rush. Flame/Freeze/Shock Sabre Requirements: Blade Mastery level 3 Required equipment: Sword or Katana Body parts used: Arms  Deals melee STR-based Cut+Fire/Ice/Volt damage to one enemy. Has a 90% speed modifier and +10 base accuracy at all levels. Fafnir's bread-and-butter skills. While the Sabres themselves suck a lot, they also simultaneously need to be maxed out at least eventually, since their levels are what the Waves are based off of. Delayed Chase Requirements: Blade Mastery level 5 Required equipment: Sword or Katana Body parts used: Arms  On the turn after use, if the user uses a skill that deals elemental damage, also adds a melee STR-based Cut+Element attack to all enemies hit with an element. The added hit has +50 base accuracy. One of Fafnir's better early and midgame skills. The damage starts to peak off as the game goes on, but in the aformentioned early and midgame, the amount of damage Fafnir gets from Delayed Chase relative to how much TP it costs is very nice. You'll still want to keep it leveled up and eventually maxed out once the late and postgame hit, though, since Blade Recoil depends on Delayed Chase's level. Overkiller Requirements: Blade Mastery level 7 Required equipment: Sword or Katana Body parts used: Arms  Deals melee STR-based Cut damage to one enemy. If the initial target is killed by Overkiller, deals the same amount of damage to all enemies. Has a 90% speed modifier and +10 base accuracy at all levels. A really weird and situational skill with absolutely terrible damage for how much TP it costs. Skip it. Resonance Requirements: Blade Mastery level 10 Required equipment: Sword or Katana Body parts used: Arms  Deals melee STR-based Cut damage to one enemy. Damage is reduced based on the number of turns that have passed since Resonance was last used: 75% reduction for 1 turn, 50% reduction for 2 turns, 25% reduction for 3 turns, and Resonance returns to full damage 4 turns after the last used. If Resonance is used multiple times in the same turn (Double Action, Action Boost, Accelerate), its damage is not reduced for that turn. Has +15 base accuracy at all levels. Resonance's consecutive use penalty sucks, but it's also, at the same time, Fafnir's best damage option when untransformed. It's something you'll want once you have the Sabres and Delayed Chase up to good levels. Full Slash Requirements: Resonance level 3 Required equipment: Sword or Katana Body parts used: Arms  Deals melee STR-based Cut damage to one enemy. The damage is multiplied by the target's current percent HP--it deals full damage if the enemy is at 100% HP, half damage if it's at 50% HP, etc. Has a 50% speed modifier and +10 base accuracy at all levels. Another strange gimmick skill that's not worth investing in. It just gets worse and worse as fights goes on. Force Mastery Requirements: None  Required to learn Force skills. Passively increases the user's Force gain from non-fixed sources. Once you have the Sabres and Delayed Chase up to levels you're comfortable with, immediately start investing in Force Mastery. Not only are a bunch of the skills it unlocks very useful, the passive bonus itself is also great. Vital/Mind Shut Requirements: Force Mastery level 1 Body parts used: Head  Reduces one enemy's physical/elemental defense. Attempts to bind the target's arms/head. Has an 80% speed modifier at all levels. Mediocre debuffs. While the base bind chance on each of them is actually decently high, Fafnir has really terrible LUC, so good luck getting them to actually stick. Absorb Requirements: Force Mastery level 3 Body parts used: None  Cures the user of binds (and ailments from level 5 on). Restores Force if any disables were purged--this amount is static, and is not modified by the number of disables removed. Has an 80% speed modifier at all levels. One of the better skills in the Force Mastery tree. Fafnir being able to cure himself of binds and ailments is already useful enough, and the Force restore is just icing on the cake. It doesn't take a lot of skill points to max out, either. Force Charge Requirements: Absorb level 5 Body parts used: Head  Until the end of the next turn, increases the damage the user deals and the amount of Force they gain. I'm normally down on charge skills (for good reason), but Force Charge has two things about it that make it less terrible. One, it's an option if you need Force very quickly and don't have Axcelas or a Sovereign on hand. Two, the damage boost lasting until the end of the turn means it works with Accelerate. Force Shield Requirements: Force Mastery level 5 Body parts used: Head  Only usable while the user is in the Force Boost state. Extends the Force Boost duration by 1, and reduces all damage to the user for one turn. Costs 14 TP at all levels. Force Shield is a really strange skill. I guess if you really want to turn Fafnir into a tank in combination with Scapegoat it could be useful, but otherwise... Force Energy Requirements Force Shield level 5  When the user is in the Force Boost state, restores a static amount of TP plus a percentage of their max TP at the end of a turn. Force Energy is a nice way to mitigate the fact that Fafnir has an absurdly terrible TP pool. Not a lot else to say about it. Force Reset Requirements: Force Mastery level 10 Body parts used: Head  Only usable while the user is in the Force Boost state. Ends the Force Boost, and restores Force to the user. Force Reset is a way to increase the amount of uptime on Transform. Just use it on the last turn of Transform, and bam, you already have quite a lot of Force back. The standard way to use it is, essentially: First two turns -> Extend -> Accelerate -> Accelerate turn -> Force Reset Limit Break Requirements: Force Reset level 5  In battle, the user's Force gauge can go beyond 100. After the end of the battle, the user's max Force (and their current Force if it was above 100 at the end of the battle) is set back to 100. Limit Break's primary use is that you can combine it with Axcelas and other Force-restoring skills to, at level 20, enable Fafnir to Transform once, use up the duration, and then immediately Transform again. It's not something you'll really be able to take advantage of until the postgame, really, but it's still, nevertheless, fun to just immediately use Transform after it ends. Weapon Free Requirements: Phys ATK Up level 3, Elem ATK Up level 3  Allows the use of any attack skill, even if the user doesn't have the correct weapon equipped. However, from levels 1-19, any skill the user doesn't have the right weapon for will have its damage reduced. Weapon Free's primary use is, at level 20, allowing Fafnir to equip staves, which give TEC bonuses, without suffering a penalty to the rest of his damage. Other than that, meh. Transform Force Boost Increases the user's damage by 50% and maximum HP by 100%--heals the user up to their new maximum, as well. Reduces the user's speed by 50%. Enables the use of Fire/Ice/Thunder Wave, Blade Recoil, Meteor Smash, Power Cell, Extend, Self-Regenerate, and Accelerate. And now, we finally reach the big draw of the Fafnir class, and the reason it is so supremely powerful once Fafnir has a lot of skill points available. Transform's passive bonuses (aside from the speed penalty) are already nice, but the skills it unlocks...hoo boy. Fire/Ice/Thunder Wave Depends on: Flame/Freeze/Shock Sabre Body parts used: Head  Deals 10 instances of ranged TEC-based Fire/Ice/Volt damage to random enemies. Can hit the same target multiple times. Has a 70% speed modifier and 150 base accuracy at all levels. Transform's essentially basic skills, which already deal a fuckton of damage on their own, and reach "jesus christ" levels when the Transform bonus is factored in. If you factor in an enemy having 125% resistance to an element, too, a level 20 Wave would deal 1575% TEC damage, and a 150% resistance would mean 1890%. Blade Recoil Depends on: Delayed Chase Body parts used: Arms  Deals melee STR-based Cut damage to one enemy. If the user used an elemental attack on the last turn, also adds a ranged TEC-based follow-up attack of that same element. The follow-up attack doesn't check for accuracy, and will always hit. This is why I said you should keep Delayed Chase leveled up, even after its damage gets outpaced. It even deals more total damage than the Waves! Meteor Smash Given: After defeating Chimaera Body parts used: Arms Usable once per Transform. Deals melee STR-based Bash damage to one enemy. Damage scales linearly from 350% to 795% based on user level. Costs 3 TP, has an 80% speed modifier, and 200 base accuracy. Meteor Smash is useful before Fafnir gets enough skill points to really be effective, but after that, it's kind of just...there. Power Cell Given: After defeating Basilisk Once per Transform, when the user takes mortal damage, they will survive at 1 HP. A guaranteed Aegis/Deadly Resolve effect. Sure, why not? Extend Given: After defeating Flame Demon Body parts used: Head Usable once per Transform. Resets Transform's duration to 3 turns. Costs 5 TP. Extend allows you to get more from the Force you spent to enable Transform and it is, by that virtue, good. Self-Regenerate Given: After defeating Arachne Restores 20% of the user's max HP at the end of each turn during Transform. A neat passive. Kind of useless since Fafnir already has a metric ton of HP during Transform, but oh well. Accelerate Given: After defeating Scylla Body parts used: Head Usable once per Transform. On the next turn, allows the user to perform three separate actions. These three actions will go first in the turn order. Costs 15 TP. One of the biggest, if not THE biggest, reasons that Fafnir is supremely broken, for reasons I really shouldn't have to state. Ignition Ray/Akashic Nova Force Break Body parts used: Head Deals ranged TEC-based Fire+Ice+Volt damage to one enemy/all enemies. Damage scales linearly from 1000% to 2100% based on user level. Has a 50% speed modifier. Ignition Ray is changed to Akashic Nova at the start of the Demi-Fafnir fight. Even a unique damage type and pretty big nuke damage can't save Fafnir's Force Breaks from the fact that they're really boring compared to the rest of Transform's toolkit, and there's also the fact that, oh yeah, they lock Fafnir out of Transform for the rest of the battle. Best used to either get really annoying elemental conditionals (ie. get a kill with Fire damage on an enemy that has 0% Fire resistance), or as finishers (when you're positively sure they'll kill something).
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It is kind of interesting to see a class so heavily themed around using Force. ...and I guess Grimoires too, to proc various self-chaser effects?
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Apr 20, 2016 23:34
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Is it just me, or does Story Mode Fafnir have a lot more idiotic dialogue choices than EOU Story Mode Highlander?
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Apr 24, 2016 03:25
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phaphnir has a personality, yes. it's a vast improvement
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Apr 24, 2016 03:32
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alcharagia posted:phaphnir has a personality, yes. it's a vast improvement Yeah, he has a personality. A sometimes kooky, weird, and stupid personality, but one nonetheless.
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Apr 24, 2016 03:39
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Highlander's options were "Generic anime hero answer" and "Out of character rear end in a top hat answer that no one will ever hold against him". Compared to that, Fafnir is a breath of fresh air.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Highlander's options were "Generic anime hero answer" and "Out of character rear end in a top hat answer that no one will ever hold against him". Huh. I vague remember a few "Sarcastic quip" lines. And all I'm saying is that Fafnir = Occasionally Weird and Quirky.
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Update 16: Through Flame Demon's Domain  Beyond the low grass is a mountain of beautifully ripe, red fruits! You know from having seen these berries at the market that Chloe is right. If you wish, you may take advantage of this good fortune and enjoy the sweetly tart berries.  The game pretty much told us they're safe to eat, so we may as well Lured by the sweet scent, you pick and eat all the berries you can hold. You smack your lips at the perfect balance of sweet and sour that floods across your tongue. You are half concerned that monsters may strike while you are engrossed in eating the berries, but none do. You spend a peaceful moment here...  You return to exploring alongside the blank-faced yet oddly cheerful-seeming girl. Another daily event. Oh and here's an audio only conversation we can hear in the 2nd Stratum. It's the only one that plays in this Stratum, oddly enough, when all the other Strata have at least 2 audio conversations.    I like his style of thinking. Sometimes I don't bother with the FOE puzzles and just kill the FOE itself. With that discussion settled, you prepare yourself to challenge the monster. Of course actually trying to fight the thing now would result in a game over.   There's no predicting what the monster may do. You ought to keep an eye on it and your own position as you proceed.   I know! A rare breed FOE! How lucky!  Once you have decided on your plan to deal with the multiple monsters, you may begin whenever you are ready. I slip past them.   And we're done with the 8th floor.   A new floor! You know what this means.  Talking to people! And nap time!  As you sit there, you hear a knock at your door. Who could it be at this hour...?  Now it's Arianna's turn.     And the scene ends just like that. Okay okay, let's go back a bit. Picking that option or “No, it isn't” ends the scene immediately.     But thou must!  Alone again in your room, you have only the silence for company. It is late, and you decide to rest in preparation for tomorrow... Abigail and Regina have nothing new to say, but we can cook some new stuff at Cafe.    Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here.  You get one extra material from gathering points. A high level gathering skill, or the Yggdrasil Bud Tea outclasses this heavily.    Dialogue merges here.  Not that useful, since it only restores 10 points of Force for every 10 steps you take. And this has absolutely no effect if you've used Force Breaks. Eat something else.    Dialogue merges here.  This makes it so that Grimoire Chances have a 40% chance of becoming an Active Grimoire Chances. There are better ways to farm for Grimoires.    Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here.  Essentially, it's an automatic Prevent Order that activates at the start of the fight. Could come in handy for a few places.   Help.  Shot down.  Increases the party's leg bind resistance by 80%. Handy for a few boss fights. That's all we can cook for now.  Cass has nothing new to say, but there is a new bar patron we can talk to here.   Back to the 9th floor.   Chloe's comment gives you pause and you listen carefully. Indeed, you hear the very soft sounds of chirping from somewhere. Though you have misgivings about this, you begin searching the area for the source of the chirping. Sound enough, you find a monster's chick chirping pitifully at the roots of one of the trees. The down-covered chick is frantically shaking its head, but its movements seem weak and lifeless. You cannot discount Chloe's objection. Though this chick may be in pain, it is still a monster. That must be factored in when deciding whether to save the chick's life or not.  May as well. You cannot abandon a living thing, even a monster, to such pain and suffering. You quietly crouch down so as not to startle the suffering chick.  Clearly we must shake the obstruction out. If there is something stuck in its throat, then you see only one way to remove it... You flip the chick over and shake it! After one or two vigorous shakes, the chick makes a small belching sound, and a stone comes tumbling out! To your surprise, the object lodged in the chick's throat turns out to be a large gem.  Now that the foreign object has been expelled, the chick steadily regains its normal breathing. You do what you can to ensure that the chick's body temperature does not fall any further. After some time, the chick raises its head to look at you, and then gives a hearty chirp. You return the chick to its nest before resuming your investigation.    You decide to track the monster's moves carefully as you search for a way to move through the room.   You look to see that the green monster which had been caught in the thorns slumps over, seemingly weakened.  With that useful trick in mind, you begin your attempt to proceed. And I head up to the 10th floor.    Oh, Chloe's figured out how this whole boss thing works. Now that you have reached a new floor, you take even greater caution than before with every step... But before you can begin exploring this new floor, Flavio stops you. It seems the young man wishes this to remain private, as he keeps his eyes on the others and speaks in low tones. You surmise that your friend is concerned for your physical well-being. But for the moment at least, there is nothing wrong with your health. You feel that you have control over that power.   Flavio sighs before anxiously glancing at your right arm. The Midgard Library is indeed known as an edifice of wisdom... They may be able to help resolve the situation. Arianna, who had been walking on ahead, rushes over to you, breaking up your chat with Flavio. With that, the young man leaves your side, running to meet up with the others as they walk on ahead. You are about to follow his lead when you notice Bertrand staring at you with a curious expression. Bertrand seems to be unable to find the words to continue. He scratches his head before quietly muttering...  With that, Bertrand lightly taps your shoulder and goes on ahead, slouching his way along as usual. You follow his somewhat pensive stride and continue investigating the forest with your guildmates.   Camera pans to the Baby Salamander and then the Tree Sponge.  You try to remember the particulars of each monster's behavior as you proceed through the room...    You feel an indescribable sadness at seeing monsters which share territory destroy one another... Though your feelings about this are mixed, you can use this to your advantage when proceeding, or choose a different way. I decide to go back to town at this point. Hanna has nothing new to say in Story, so it's time for another nap.  As you sit there, you hear a knock at your door. Who could it be at this hour...?  Uhhh, well we've already seen all of them at this point. Um, Arianna?   You decide to get some rest in preparation for tomorrow.      Oh yeah, if you select a character when you've already viewed their inn scene for the current Stratum, you'll just get a bonus scene where nothing much happens. It's the exact same scene no matter how many times or when you view it. Anyways, I got some new ingredients, so we can do some more cooking.    Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here.  Increases your party's max HP by 20%. Could be handy for defensively oriented parties, but there are usually other meals I prefer.    Dialogue merges here.  Self explanatory, but not really that great of an effect. Regina has nothing new to say in Story mode.   There's also a new bar patron we can talk to.  Marion and Dubois have no new dialogue in Story. Time to go back to the 10th floor.   Even from behind, you recognize them as belonging to the Esbat guild you once encountered. Even before you can call out to them, the woman of the pair notices you, and speaks with a slight smile.  The girl mutters in a somewhat baffled tone.  Full heals are always nice. Oh, and this event is exclusive to Story. Classic has no access to full heals, and only gets an Amrita from them. The woman chants some odd syllables and touches the ground...  The woman's manner is carefree, but the tall man standing behind you gives you only a cold stare. The woman's smile and the man's cold gaze see you off as you return to your investigation. They'll continue to offer us full heals at this spot until we take out Flame Demon.   The tree trunk before you is forked in two, and a shining liquid spills over the center. You may try drinking the liquid, or ignore it and be on your way.  Always consume foreign matter within the Labyrinth. There is enough of the shining liquid for you all. You each take turns scooping up a handful and swallowing it. The mild sweetness of the shining liquid drives away your exhaustion!  You check the liquid's source in response to the black-robed girl's question. There isn't enough to drink now, but the liquid is slowly pooling again. By tomorrow, there should be enough for you all to have another drink. Nevertheless, the shining liquid is most welcome on your arduous journey. You decide to make a mental note of this place as you return to exploring. There is nothing else left on this floor aside from Flame Demon herself. We'll get around to fighting her next time. 
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I've actually had food that spicy before. It's true, that level of spiciness just kinda overwhelms and burns you.
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Update 36: Moths: Worse Than Spiders SYSTEM: It looks almost like an empty pond. The basin is filled not with water, but sand, and dead plants are scattered on top. Do you remember the quest you accepted at the bar for bringing the crystalline Wood Rose back? Perchance the dunes before your eyes make up the sandland that is said to give birth to the famed Wood Rose. You can choose to dig your hands into the sandland to search and see if anything lies within. SYSTEM: You split up to sift through the sand. To your chagrin, however, the sand is fairly deep... It won't be easy to find anything here. SYSTEM: As the search progresses, you at last feel a hardened object under your spade. Taking care not to lose it, you pry around the area to dig it up. SYSTEM: It's a beautiful, peach-toned crystal in the shape of rose petals curled into a ball. Its resemblance to an organic, blooming rose is uncanny... Back we go, then. A very nice infusion of money and some really good EXP. I'd say the reward is disproportionate to the effort we put in, in our favor, but oh well. I opt to have Freyja max out the basic whip skills just to get some extra damage and bind chance out of them. I don't spend Asriel's skill point because he's going to be taking a rest very, very soon. I want to increase the range of Unbind and Refresh on Realga, due to certain enemies we'll be running into soon. Torpor Curse gets an extra 1% to its base chance. Well, I had to explain the Explorers Guild options at some point. Retire unlocks once a character reaches level 30. Using it basically deletes that character, but then lets you make a new character at either half of the retired character's level, or level 30, whatever's lowest. The character created from retiring will, in exchange for all of this, extra skill points and extra base stats. quote:Retired at: As you can see, retiring at 99 gives a huge boost to the resulting character, but it is really not worth it beforehand. Alter Class (I just call it reclassing) is available at any time. Reclassing a character will reduce their level by 5, but also let you pick new class (excluding Beast and Fafnir; neither of those classes can be reclassed into or reclassed out of). Unlike retiring, the character will keep their name and portrait, as well as their base stats and stat growths. What you essentially get out of reclassing is access to a class's level 11-20 skills and their Force skills, with the old class's stats. Rest reduces a character's level by 2, unequips all of their equipment and Grimoires, and resets their skill point allocations. This is what I'm about to do to Asriel, since Horse Slash is starting to fall off at this point. Dismiss permanently deletes a character from the guild roster. It really is as simple as that. Rename lets you change someone's name, pretty obviously. In EO2 and EO3, renaming, unbelievably, cost 1000 en to do, but EO4 changed it so that renaming is free. A good change, because there's no gameplay reason for renaming to cost money. Notice how Ranger's options are different. Story mode characters (which Ranger technically is since I used NG+ on a Story save to get him) can't be renamed or dismissed, and retiring is referred to as "training." Also, as mentioned above, Ranger can't reclass out of Fafnir. So now Asriel's two levels lower and had all his stuff unequipped (it just gets put back in our inventory, thankfully), but more importantly... All his skill points are now reset. The major changes are:
I opted to invest more in Upward Slash so I lose out on as little damage as necessary when setting up Upper Stance (a level 10 Upward Slash deals 210% damage, compared to a level 1 which only deals 100%). Flame Grater's also still maxed out. Swallow Strike is Asriel's new main skill. Those of you familiar with EO2 will remember it as Midareba, and it's been nerfed quite a bit from that game. Firstly, the damage hasn't scaled up that much compared to EO2, meaning it kind of loses out given that most enemies have massively higher HP totals now. Secondly, and most importantly, Swallow Strike has a base accuracy penalty now, meaning that each hit has a higher-than-average chance to miss. It's not THAT bad a penalty (-4 at 1-4, -3 at 5-9, -1 at 10-20), but it'll still miss more than most other skills. At level 10, Swallow Strike costs 22 TP, and deals 3 hits of 125% damage--375% damage total. With a level 10 Upper Stance, that's boosted to 431% damage. At this point, I did a LOT of offscreen grinding to get some better Grimoires for everyone else, and dumped like 200+ level 1-5 Grimoires into Grimoire Recycle, and got this piece of junk. I also traded this duplicate Overheal Grimoire for a lv8 Phys DEF Up for Ursa. And here's everyone's latest Grimoire loadouts. This update is going to be a pretty good lesson in why taking high-level Grimoire-boosted skills into normal exploration isn't that great an idea. Incidentally, here's Abigail's quest dialogue. 5 Century Shells, and 2 Plum Quills! It does sound a bit challenging...but would you still be willing to do it? I'll be watching the shop, so just sell them to me like usual when you collect them! I'll be waiting here. Thank you so much! We already know that Century Shells come from Metal Tortoises, but Plum Quills come from an enemy we'll see soon. No time like the present. Let's get going. Venomous Spider HP: 398, STR: 33, TEC: 26, VIT: 24, AGI: 25, LUC: 28 Skills:
Disable resistances: A spider that hunts in the woods. Stop it from spinning its web... Venomous Spiders are capable of making quite a lot of encounters considerably more annoying, either by binding your front liners' arms, or your casters' heads. Not much else to them. Demonstrating how much Asriel's new Upper Slash levels hurt. It's still minor damage, but I'm still losing less damage when Asriel doesn't have a stance compared to before. This is also the point in the game where I start advocating for Torpor Curse over Venom Curse, since canceling out one or more enemy turns and getting extra damage on them from a physical damage dealer is worth a lot more now than poison damage. SYSTEM: If you wish to see if they are edible, you may nominate someone to try it... SYSTEM: The rest of you discuss who will be the next to have a bite, when suddenly, Realga bursts out laughing. As you watch this outburst, perplexed, Realga grabs the other mushroom and stumbles toward you. SYSTEM: With a huge grin, Realga shoves the other mushroom into Freyja's mouth! Freyja has no choice but to swallow the mushroom, upon which they begin laughing out loud as well. SYSTEM: This appears to be a poisonous mushroom that induces euphoria in those who eat it! You ponder what to do, but the two seem to have collapsed without you noticing. You edge toward them to observe... SYSTEM: After some time passes, the pair woozily sits back up, holding their heads. They appear to have come to their senses. SYSTEM: When you ask about the incident, they recall falling unconscious after eating the mushroom... But they seem to remember nothing else, and both of them have migraines now that they've come to. Both participants in the event lose 150 HP and 80 TP. SYSTEM: You feel foolish to have eaten something that grows in the Labyrinth... The pair cradles their heads as you move on. If you have a Beast try to eat the initial mushroom, you'll instead get dialogue about your Beast recognizing that the mushroom is poisonous. Oh god no.  Great Moth HP: 1571, STR: 38, TEC: 26, VIT: 32, AGI: 27, LUC: 32 Skills:
Disable resistances: This moth is known to emit a disorienting powder before striking at its target. gently caress Great Moths. gently caress them gently caress them gently caress them. They've got a lot of HP, they have access to party-wide panic, and Slice and Dice goes from "what the hell was the point of that" to "instant death," because panic disables evasion. These things are partially why I bought Realga a Luck Staff--not being able to heal panic easily makes Great Moths really annoying, and I suffered more than one game over to a fight with a Great Moth in it on my first playthrough. How the gently caress did Sophie get tagged with the panic there?! She has a 30+ LUC advantage on the thing, for christ's sake. At least Sophie's high LUC means her recovery time is very low. This event is automatic--it starts as soon as we step on this tile. SYSTEM: It looks very much like the monster known as Etria's nightmare, which caused untold suffering in the far-off land of Etria. But this is no dream! You must rouse yourself from your stupor and choose what action to take! You may avert your eyes from the nightmare you behold and walk away, or stand and face it. SYSTEM: You each take your weapons in hand and charge at the nightmare before you with intent to slay it! Trying to silently back away results in "Etria's nightmare" blindsiding you. Hurt Babirusa HP: 4158, STR: 45, TEC: 27, VIT: 33, AGI: 28, LUC: 24 Skills:
Disable resistances: Long have these boars plagued the residents of Etria... Do not stand in their path! The Hurt Babirusa is no joke. That 4158 HP is quite a lot, especially given that it also has 75% resistance to all elemental damage (although that's irrelevant with our current party), and 120% STR damage with 45 STR equals pain. If you're wondering what the "Etria's nightmare" stuff is about, Babirusas are an annoying enemy from deep in EOU's 5th Stratum, where they were pretty much the same as this thing, right down to having Fang Flurry. In a really stupid move, I forgot that Fang Flurry uses the legs, not the head. Just showing Freyja and Asriel's basic damage output. Well, it's something. Ooh, that's kind of lucky. https://zippy.gfycat.com/TameJealousDiplodocus.webm (GIF version) Demoing Swallow Strike. If you're wondering why its damage might seem low, that's because it's only level 15--135% damage per hit for 3 hits, 405% damage total. ...And then Freyja just shows it up with a two-bind Ecstasy. Having your Beast use Hit-Taker when they're not at full HP against all-party attacks isn't very smart. This is a lazy way to get Ursa back on her feet in fighting conditions. We don't get anything for this event fight, aside from the Hurt Babirusa's entry in the Monstrous Codex, which does count for 100% completion. A convenient shortcut back to near the start of the floor. There's a Chop point here, too, with Sakura Petals for ingredients. Oh boy. Good, good. Let's use that money to develop the town, first. The new ad campaigns. The highlighted groups are who I'm trying to appeal to. New items. I'm just going to stop commenting on items that aren't interesting from this point on, since I've exhausted my repertoire of things to say about boring items. SYSTEM: You may try picking the fruits and eating them, or avoid recklessly eating the forest's bounty and continue onward. SYSTEM: As you reach towards the fruits, shining like gems in the light, an ominous presence suddenly fills the area! You draw your weapons in the confusion just before monsters burst from their hiding places to attack you! Raven HP: 454, STR: 34, TEC: 25, VIT: 25, AGI: 29, LUC: 26 Skills:
Disable resistances: Its dark feathers are considered an ill omen to adventurers. Ravens are a really big nuisance if you have an Alchemist and non-notable otherwise. They can make enemies that resist physical damage, like the Metal Tortoises, more annoying, I suppose. They don't even hit that hard. SYSTEM: You lower your weapons and pick some of the red, gemlike fruits. When you bite into one, its sweet juice fills your mouth... SYSTEM: Unable to get enough of that taste, you eat one after another of the red fruits. The fruits are greatly effective at soothing your exhaustion! A party-wide 70 TP heal, not bad. SYSTEM: After you have had your fill, you look around and see that there are several more unripe fruits on the vine. These fruits should ripen by the next day for you to enjoy once more. You all agree that it is worth remembering this place as you go on your way deeper into the maze of cherry blossoms. I don't really have a lot of reason to come back here again, but whatever. SYSTEM: It shows no sign of moving yet, but there's no knowing what actions it might take once it spots you. You should watch its movements cautiously as you proceed. The Charging Rhino's name tells all, basically. If we enter its line of sight, it will charge that direction until it hits a wall on the next step. SYSTEM: It seems its inability to stop once it starts charging works against it if the ground in its path is unstable... You can already see how this knowledge will work to your advantage. You decide to keep careful track of the topography and the monster's positions as you go. It's exactly as it looks: if we're near a hole in the ground, and a Charged Rhino charges us, it will fall in, and be erased from the map until we leave the floor and come back. Now there's two rhinos. How will we ever get past this impenetrable wall? Sidestep them on the lower part of the floor, for one. Then we make this one charge over here. Then we make it charge that way again, making it plummet to its death. And now they're both dead from the multi-kilometer drop from the 4th Stratum down to the ground. Oh hey, this encounter loving sucks. Because both of these assholes are capable of killing Ursa if she tanks one of the all-party attacks. Well, that's one of them down. Note how low Asriel's getting on TP here, though. I've been cutting out a lot of encounters, but I've been deliberately trying to save TP on him. This is why loading up on Grimoire-boosted skills for normal exploration early on and/or on low TP classes like Ronin is a bad idea. loving ow. Three rhinos. Yep. Don't you just "love" getting into random encounters when an FOE is one turn away from you? In any other EO game, I would've been staring a game over right in the face, since I would not have been able to kill that encounter in one turn. The middle rhino will charge to its death from this pit. The lower rhino, that pit. And the upper rhino, that pit on the left. The other chop point. Pea Pods, yep. And that's the floor. Notice how every floor in Petal Bridge is circular, a really neat touch, and I imagine a really big pain in the rear end during design. Abigail's still stuck in her quest dialogue, but I'll cheat and just pull from the game script here. Items, yep yep. Before we take on the quests, here's the only new patrons for this floor. And now, the quests. The wise duke: Dinner for one: And lastly, let's talk to the guy who showed up for The wise duke. I'll go fill that guy in once we know where a take point on 18F is. Next time: more of the 4th Stratum. Rea fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Apr 25, 2016 |
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Well, we've reached the 3rd floor of the 4th Stratum, and that means it's time for a new party! ...In all honesty, you know what to expect from every guild member by now, so I'm gonna try a slight experiment: what will people vote for without my descriptions potentially affecting votes? Pick a maximum of four of your favorites! Or party members that you think will work well together! Or pick a party as atrocious as the Medic and Troubadour front line that the old EO2 LP had for the first part of the 4th Stratum! It's mayhem, I tell ya!
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Rheine, Asriel, Zack, Stardust
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Apr 25, 2016 03:52
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Milly, Jackie, Rheine, Pheobe
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Apr 25, 2016 04:09
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Zack, Stardust, Tyler, Ranger The best defense is killing the enemy before they do 
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Apr 25, 2016 04:29
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Tyler, Colette, Milly and Jackie.
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Apr 25, 2016 04:47
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Your choice as to who to bring along for the sake of sating the throne of blood. 
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Apr 25, 2016 09:49
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A little over 12 hours later, and these are the current results:quote:My vote: 4 Anyone not listed has no votes. Any combination of 5 of those current "leaders" would be an...interesting experience.
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Apr 25, 2016 18:28
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Freja, Colette, Sophie and Tyler (tanks? what are those? are they edible?)
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Apr 25, 2016 19:14
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Nadia, Colette, Zack, Phoebe We haven't seen Nadia in like, ever.
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Apr 25, 2016 20:13
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Stardust, Tyler, Realga, Rheine
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Apr 25, 2016 20:41
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Whatever you can do to make the enemy look bad without totally cheap-assing it. I have faith in you.
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Apr 25, 2016 21:09
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Asriel, X3 LPer's choice. LETS SEE SOME BLOOOOOOOOOD  ...j-just avoid having a party of all supports...oh god I tried Fetus...I tried.
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x4 LPer's choice to make the game bleed
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Apr 26, 2016 03:20
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Phoebe, Realga, Milly, Rheine We don't need any big damage numbers in this party.
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Realga, Phoebe, Rhiene, Ursa. I'm sure you can just outlive whatever the game throws at you.
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