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Kimsemus posted:You're being really hyperbolic, or you've never actually done a proper L5 setup. To get anywhere near that isk/hour conversion you need to have: so i have a 6-12bil setup cost depending on the faction, and have to be in an entity that will lock down an area i mean generally if you're that committed you deserve it, but they still spit out lp like crazy
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Libluini posted:Token fury? I meant furry. And yea, his wife was in hospice. I see him popping up on steam fairly often.
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Krogort posted:Like in real life, an elegant solution to this gambling problem would be an official ccp casino. That's not how gambling works.
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Krogort posted:Like in real life, an elegant solution to this gambling problem would be an official ccp casino. IMO the best outcome for ccp would be to go to the IWI guys and offer to buy back all their isk at something like $2USD/bil IWI guys get real returns, and ccp would get a great isk sink for less than the cost of a dev
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Maneck posted:That's not how gambling works. Well the addict loses but they will always find something to gable (and lose) on. This way it's better for the greater good.
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Not sure if anyone genuinely cares but this is what the gold coins the winning team in the Amarr Championship were handed.
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Landsknecht posted:IMO the best outcome for ccp would be to go to the IWI guys and offer to buy back all their isk at something like $2USD/bil While it's debatable if the current gaming sites violate the law doing that would certainly violate the law.
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Landsknecht posted:IMO the best outcome for ccp would be to go to the IWI guys and offer to buy back all their isk at something like $2USD/bil Not a bad idea, maybe don't make it officialy dollar per isk but some buyout that would end up being a sorta similar number for the tool (website) and playerbase.
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evilweasel posted:While it's debatable if the current gaming sites violate the law doing that would certainly violate the law. Not only would that violate the law, but doing that would also open up a lot of normal EVE activity (like suicide ganking) to prosecution, as it would establish ISK (and therefore everything in EVE) as something that has an actual dollar value.
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CainFortea posted:I meant furry. And yea, his wife was in hospice. I see him popping up on steam fairly often. For a moment, I imagined "Carusio" being the EVE-pseudonym of Tisiphone, laying vengeful destruction on everything in her path. 
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Eminai posted:Not only would that violate the law, but doing that would also open up a lot of normal EVE activity (like suicide ganking) to prosecution, as it would establish ISK (and therefore everything in EVE) as something that has an actual dollar value. That's not true, because the rules of a game can allow you to do things that would generally be illegal if you consent to them by playing the game. If you tackled someone in a way that's legal in football outside a football game that'd be illegal, but it's not when playing a football game. You'd have one hell of a problem filing your taxes though if the $2/billion was open to everyone.
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Apr 25, 2016 21:49
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Unfunny Poster posted:Not sure if anyone genuinely cares but this is what the gold coins the winning team in the Amarr Championship were handed. That's actually a pretty cool prize.
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evilweasel posted:While it's debatable if the current gaming sites violate the law doing that would certainly violate the law. wouldn't there be some kind of workaround? like how pachinko parlors in Japan use prizes which are bought back next-door?
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evilweasel posted:That's not true, because the rules of a game can allow you to do things that would generally be illegal if you consent to them by playing the game. If you tackled someone in a way that's legal in football outside a football game that'd be illegal, but it's not when playing a football game. it would be an interesting proposition? couldn't you file it as freelance/non-regular income? I don't know what american taxes are like, but here in Canada I just dump everything I get for freelance writing and whatnot into that category and it works out fine
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So did I re sub at the right time to play Homeworld mothership in EVE? Also surprised FCON just lost half membership and didn't implode entirely. I still cannot understand what culture or reasons hold it together.
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Landsknecht posted:wouldn't there be some kind of workaround? like how pachinko parlors in Japan use prizes which are bought back next-door? Gambling laws in the US are written very broadly specifically to avoid these sort of workarounds (which is why they're so broad eve gambling sites are arguably illegal). Landsknecht posted:it would be an interesting proposition? couldn't you file it as freelance/non-regular income? If isk can be redeemed for cash at a defined exchange rate receiving the isk is almost certainly the taxable event under US law, so you would need to declare and pay taxes on your in-game income even before you converted it. The IRS is also not fond of workarounds so they define stuff very broadly as well.
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BromanderData posted:That's actually a pretty cool prize. space coin
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Unfunny Poster posted:Not sure if anyone genuinely cares but this is what the gold coins the winning team in the Amarr Championship were handed. is there chocolate inside
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Kimsemus posted:You're being really hyperbolic, or you've never actually done a proper L5 setup. To get anywhere near that isk/hour conversion you need to have: I have no problems with L5's other than the fact that they are only available in lowsec. That kind of income model would be insane and very appropriate in null, because null alliances can pull off securing a L5 hub very well, and since it's missions, you have infinite density support. Lastly it uses caps, something null groups have tons of. The closest you have is the Guristas hub in Venal, which is nowhere close to as good because the market for Guristas LP items is limited, and they are still L4 missions so LP payout is mediocre. The Sisters and Mordus missions in PB are both inferior for various reason. Sov Null hasn't got anything nice in the way of income for a long, long time. On the matter of isk faucets, Capital escalations in holes needs a good looking as well. Despite all the wormholers claiming it's "unsafe", it's really not compared to the obscene amount of isk wormholes print.
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Dr. Pangloss posted:You keep this stuff up and I'm going to fall in love with you. oh gosh 
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evilweasel posted:Gambling laws in the US are written very broadly specifically to avoid these sort of workarounds (which is why they're so broad eve gambling sites are arguably illegal). That's quite interesting then, I guess it's why every MMO company polices their RMT EULA so strongly.
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xilni posted:So did I re sub at the right time to play Homeworld mothership in EVE? Yeah pretty much.
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awesomecopter posted:I have no problems with L5's other than the fact that they are only available in lowsec.
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LemonDrizzle posted:Venal missions are pooping out 500-600m/hr at the moment with properly optimized setups, and capital escalations are being completely overhauled (and their income potential cut by like 75%) on Thursday. excuse me, give me setups
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LemonDrizzle posted:Venal missions are pooping out 500-600m/hr at the moment with properly optimized setups, and capital escalations are being completely overhauled (and their income potential cut by like 75%) on Thursday. Capital Escalations are a wormhole thing, not a lowsec thing.
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Eminai posted:Not only would that violate the law, but doing that would also open up a lot of normal EVE activity (like suicide ganking) to prosecution, as it would establish ISK (and therefore everything in EVE) as something that has an actual dollar value. Make it a one time buy off. CCP purchase IWI, integrate it to the game and forbid any competition.
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Xenothral posted:Wormholes can be pretty excellent as well! But I think besides that null does have the best space rocks. what about huffing gas v. shooting rocks? I'm a scrub but from what I can tell there is a lot more SP involved in getting the most money out of shooting rocks, and if you're going into w space anyway isn't that where the gas is?
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Eminai posted:Capital Escalations are a wormhole thing, not a lowsec thing. Read the post he was responding to.
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LemonDrizzle posted:Venal missions are pooping out 500-600m/hr at the moment with properly optimized setups, and capital escalations are being completely overhauled (and their income potential cut by like 75%) on Thursday. "At the moment" Venal missions have a really shallow market since the market for crystal implants is limited, and the supply of Gilas and Rattlesnakes is disrupted by the lack of goons and co. jewing all of the North. During "normal" times, Venal missions don't break 400 ish. All of that is orders of magnitude above Ishtars, which are 65/hour pre tax and Carriers, which are about 100.
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The whole "L5 hubs are owned by local groups" is kinda overplayed. There's a ton of quiet constellations you can use and never be bothered if you keep to yourself. and I can only assume CCP are happy with where L5s are at since they're well aware that like 10% of all L5s are completed with supers, and the average L5 mission completion time must be about 8-10 minutes. objectively bad fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Apr 25, 2016 |
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Endie posted:Read the post he was responding to.
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Unfunny Poster posted:Not sure if anyone genuinely cares but this is what the gold coins the winning team in the Amarr Championship were handed. cool, good for them
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Venom Snake posted:is there chocolate inside I would buy one for a dollar if it was like a giant Krackel. Not a Mr. Goodbar though, gently caress those things. 
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VideoGames posted:I just found some Azure Plagioclase!! was this enough to satisfy your horribly spacerock-thirst 
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Foehammer007 posted:excuse me, give me setups For nullsec blitzing, you can replace all the expensive frigate fits with t2 setups without too much bother - you generally have to drop a damage mod for an extra tanking mod. That reduces the startup cost to <1b, although it's useful to have a carrier as well to get the ships out to the mission hub you've picked. Ignore the stuff about fancy implants, they're not needed.
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Morris posted:I would buy one for a dollar if it was like a giant Krackel. Not a Mr. Goodbar though, gently caress those things. Screw you man! Mr.Goodbars are awesome! 1v1 at the sun! 
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Hobold posted:Screw you man! Mr.Goodbars are awesome! 1v1 at the sun! Yea Mr goodbar is legit
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