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Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Oh boy this again. :jerkbag:

We haven't gotten to the point of accusing black posters of being white from bad photos of their hands yet.

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Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Mr Hootington posted:

I wasn't giving you my opinion because you would yell at me. Just the other white posters, so we could nod in agreement.

I laughed at you once for trying to tell me what black people think about politics and you have never stopped crying about it. I pity any person who has to interact with you in person. I bet you mail tear-stained hate letters to people who tagged you out in third grade dodgeball.

Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica
I thought it was well understood around here that most social and labor progress was won through disagreeable methods. BLM is doing what they need to do and it's working on many levels in spite of how little credit they are being given. I'm eager to see them become an even more powerful political force, why would I piss in their oatmeal?

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Nevermind this thread is worse than the Bernie thread. I wonder if that will make the Bernie thread happy or sad

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

I laughed at you once for trying to tell me what black people think about politics and you have never stopped crying about it. I pity any person who has to interact with you in person. I bet you mail tear-stained hate letters to people who tagged you out in third grade dodgeball.

I don't think I ever did this, but was pleased with the title you gave me. I'm sorry that you have had a a life filled with poo poo due to the racism that was built into the system by the whites. Maybe if we work together your grand kids and mine will only have to ask us what it was like to live in a racially unjust society.

Rygar201
Jan 26, 2011
I AM A TERRIBLE PIECE OF SHIT.

Please Condescend to me like this again.

Oh yeah condescend to me ALL DAY condescend daddy.


Let's all laugh at this piss baby and feel better about ourselves, and our disagreements

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Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Spatula City posted:

Agreed, stereotyping people is bad, and using statistical models to prove something about a group is a slippery slope to awful things. It's definitely understandable why many non-white people have tried to shut white people out of discussions, though. Clear over-correction for the long history of not being allowed a voice. It doesn't make it right or justified.
Maybe a better general principle than DON'T MANSPLAIN/WHITESPLAIN is "defer to lived experience". Generally, a white guy's opinion about racism isn't going to be as valuable, not because white guy's opinions don't matter or there's something inherently bad about white guy opinions, but because he hasn't lived it, probably hasn't had much firsthand experience with it. Maybe once or twice he said something in a discussion and got shouted down for white privilege. This doesn't mean his opinion on the subject of racial prejudice holds equal authority.

Stereotyping is bad, but insisting one's opinion is equally or more valid than an opinion more rooted in experience is also wrong. and it is an undeniable fact that some white men do this on a regular basis. But, again, that's not a recent to shut white men out of discussions completely, because answering oppression by reversing it is an ethically broken position.

All of this is clutter. 'splaining is bad and all but it's not the real problem with Talmonis and people like him, which is the more specific issue that he can't imagine how to support a movement in any way but leading it. That's way past just talking over people. He sees a movement he isn't involved with dedicated to combating problems he doesn't face, and he assumes he knows better than everyone, and that the only reason people wouldn't gratefully fall in line and follow his suggestions is because their secret real goal is just to call people like him racist.

Despite accusations to the contrary, I haven't actually attempted to speak on behalf of BLM yet, but I feel comfortable saying that if it comes down to it, we'll take the reduction in state-sanctioned murder even if it means Talmonis doesn't get insulted quite as much as he could be.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Luigi Thirty posted:

We haven't gotten to the point of accusing black posters of being white from bad photos of their hands yet.

Really it's all about ethics in goon photojournalism

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

Rygar201 posted:

Let's all laugh at this piss baby and feel better about ourselves, and our disagreements



I love that this so obviously eats him up inside.

Daniel Bryan
May 23, 2006

GOAT
Giant baby loses pacifier

turn it up TURN ME ON
Mar 19, 2012

In the Grim Darkness of the Future, there is only war.

...and delicious ice cream.
So what happened to Jade Helm, and why aren't people pushing it in the Governor of Texas' face?

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

SquadronROE posted:

So what happened to Jade Helm, and why aren't people pushing it in the Governor of Texas' face?

Now now, that would be smug and we can't have that now, can we?

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

SquadronROE posted:

So what happened to Jade Helm, and why aren't people pushing it in the Governor of Texas' face?

Brave patriots thwarted the Feds :patriot:

Xae
Jan 19, 2005

SquadronROE posted:

So what happened to Jade Helm, and why aren't people pushing it in the Governor of Texas' face?

Only through the ETERNAL VIGILISM of TRUE PATRIOTS were OBUMMERS plans to impose MARITAL LAW in Texas thwarted.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



SquadronROE posted:

So what happened to Jade Helm, and why aren't people pushing it in the Governor of Texas' face?
Right wing political speech, even when unhinged and idiotic, is treated with warm respect and deference in America. The real 'life hack' for all these movements would be to describe their goals in ways that used right wing rhetoric words, just to baffle the gently caress out of the noise machine.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

SquadronROE posted:

So what happened to Jade Helm, and why aren't people pushing it in the Governor of Texas' face?

He's no longer Governor. The Tejas District is now ruled by Viceroy Reverend Wright. The Obama regime just pretends they let the state continue to exist.

Unzip and Attack
Mar 3, 2008

USPOL May

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

I pity any person who has to interact with you in person. I bet you mail tear-stained hate letters to people who tagged you out in third grade dodgeball.

Jesus you're an awful poster.

For whomever asked for a good rundown of OK's lovely tax breaks and how they somehow made OK shittier, this is a pretty good piece. It should be noted that since this was written our education system has started to run school for 4 days a week and many districts are closing school days/weeks early this summer. Also, our huge deficit caused our credit rating to fall. :homebrew:

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

Unzip and Attack posted:

Jesus you're an awful poster.

For whomever asked for a good rundown of OK's lovely tax breaks and how they somehow made OK shittier, this is a pretty good piece. It should be noted that since this was written our education system has started to run school for 4 days a week and many districts are closing school days/weeks early this summer. Also, our huge deficit caused our credit rating to fall. :homebrew:

The party of fiscal responsibility.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Joementum posted:

He's no longer Governor. The Tejas District is now ruled by Viceroy Reverend Wright. The Obama regime just pretends they let the state continue to exist.

Ah that would explain why all the top elected officials in TX are under investigation.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

MC Nietzche posted:

On its worst day YCS has been better than this threads BLM derail. #Nolivesmatter

But this derail has been super useful for identifying white online "activists" who want progressive cred while also not doing anything at all to further the cause they purportedly support.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
cookies need love

Zeroisanumber posted:

Do we have a gradually expanding "Suck my loving dick" gif handy?

I only wish the settlement came out of their pension.

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
cookies need love

Luigi Thirty posted:

We haven't gotten to the point of accusing black posters of being white from bad photos of their hands yet.

Is that a thing?

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


Litany Unheard posted:

The party of fiscal responsibility.

They should have made more spending cuts.

Illinois is coming to the point where schools might not open next year if the government does not create a veto proof budget.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Captain Oblivious posted:

But this derail has been super useful for identifying white online "activists" who want progressive cred while also not doing anything at all to further the cause they purportedly support.

Hey now. They tweeted #BlackLivesMatters when a high profile police shooting of a black person happens.

MC Nietzche
Oct 26, 2004

Captain Oblivious posted:

But this derail has been super useful for identifying white online "activists" who want progressive cred while also not doing anything at all to further the cause they purportedly support.

Unless you're making a list for those who will be guillotined then it's still a bad derail.

Dick Milhous Rock!
Aug 9, 1974

:nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon:

:nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon:

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

They should have made more spending cuts.

Illinois is coming to the point where schools might not open next year if the government does not create a veto proof budget.

There has to be some better term for this sort of poo poo than Dunning-Kruger. I mean, how can you accurately explain the psychology of people that essentially have been dousing their home in gasoline and then screaming at their neighbors for wanting to keep their porch lights on? At this point, I'm not sure I can even describe it as malicious, just a mule-headed bloody minded kneejerk against ever admitting that anything they've even thought was wrong, ever. Even if it means sitting in the dark with the gas fumes wafting through.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Captain Oblivious posted:

But this derail has been super useful for identifying white online "activists" who want progressive cred while also not doing anything at all to further the cause they purportedly support.

Says the poster posting on the something awful forums.

turn it up TURN ME ON
Mar 19, 2012

In the Grim Darkness of the Future, there is only war.

...and delicious ice cream.
Why shouldn't I be smug when they don't mind being super loving smug all the time about things that are actually wrong.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

gohmak posted:

Is that a thing?

Yeah, it was good.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 203 days!

DemeaninDemon posted:

Says the poster posting on the something awful forums.

#goonpostsmatter

citybeatnik
Mar 1, 2013

You Are All
WEIRDOS




Captain Oblivious posted:

But this derail has been super useful for identifying white online "activists" who want progressive cred while also not doing anything at all to further the cause they purportedly support.

One of the wisest things I've discovered is the ability to go "you know, as a straight white male I don't need to have an outspoken opinion on X and/or Y" when it comes to stuff. Just let other people speak and support the side that's on the right side of history.

Which leads to hilarious things like my Smith College educated friend saying "you're the least white person here!" in our get togethers. Do Castillians count as white still? Always been confused by that.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cleveland-police-union-tamir-rice-settlement



quote:

Hours after the city of Cleveland announced a $6 million settlement in the fatal police shooting of 12-year-old Tamir Rice, the head of the local police union said some of that money should go towards educating children about guns.

Cleveland Police Patrolman Association President Steve Loomis issued a statement on Monday afternoon saying that “something positive must come from this tragic loss.”

“We can only hope the Rice family and their attorneys will use a portion of this settlement to help educate the youth of Cleveland in the dangers associated with the mishandling of both real and facsimile firearms,” Loomis said in the statement.

Shortly after Rice’s death, Loomis told Politico, “Tamir Rice is in the wrong. He’s menacing. He’s 5-feet-7, 191 pounds. He wasn’t that little kid you’re seeing in pictures. He’s a 12-year-old in an adult body.”

That's some serious "He Was No Angel"ing.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Rygar201 posted:

Let's all laugh at this piss baby and feel better about ourselves, and our disagreements



Oh the tears make his pathetic existance we worthwhile.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

He's fat and has the complexion of someone who will die soon. Hopefully.

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011




That's disgusting but the real :barf: moment is still that loving grand jury not indicting the officer in question for "a tragic mistake".

Manslaughter is a tragic mistake, one that comes with consequences, and...?

Combed Thunderclap fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Apr 26, 2016

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 203 days!

Dude knows all about kids in an adult body; he's got about three grown adults stuffed into his :rimshot:

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Federal judge upholds voter ID/restrictions on voting enacted in 2013 in NC, then proceeds to claim this:

quote:

In his ruling, the judge suggested past discrimination has abated. “There is significant, shameful past discrimination,’’ he wrote. “In North Carolina’s recent history, however, certainly for the last quarter century, there is little official discrimination to consider.”

It will surprise no one that he was appointed by Dubya to the bench.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/26/u...v=top-news&_r=0

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

All of this is clutter. 'splaining is bad and all but it's not the real problem with Talmonis and people like him, which is the more specific issue that he can't imagine how to support a movement in any way but leading it. That's way past just talking over people. He sees a movement he isn't involved with dedicated to combating problems he doesn't face, and he assumes he knows better than everyone, and that the only reason people wouldn't gratefully fall in line and follow his suggestions is because their secret real goal is just to call people like him racist.

Despite accusations to the contrary, I haven't actually attempted to speak on behalf of BLM yet, but I feel comfortable saying that if it comes down to it, we'll take the reduction in state-sanctioned murder even if it means Talmonis doesn't get insulted quite as much as he could be.

Look at this loving meltdown. Please tell us more how I think and feel your highness. All this over me saying aggressive antics are offputting to people who aren't paying attention. :heritage: :godwin:

german porn enthusiast
Dec 29, 2015

by exmarx
Speaking of BLM, I was looking for a local group to go work for, but I live in a rural area and couldn't find anything. Is it just my poor internet skills? I mean, rural people get shot in infuriatingly senseless ways too, right?

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NaanViolence
Mar 1, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

I love this response.

Hmm, let's see, two candidates: one who organized protests against segregation in the 1960s, and another who boasted about being a Goldwater Girl and shepherded some of the most deleterious "anti-crime" policies of the 1990s.

Oh, yep, poo poo on the first guy. gently caress him. He doesn't deserve political buy-in from minority groups.

I wonder why BLM isn't getting mainstreamed? Weird.

Thank you. This is exactly why BLM was wrong to protest at rallies for Sanders.

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