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Mars4523 posted:Is that a good "What the gently caress?" Or a bad one? All I'm gonna say is it is something that I never, ever thought would pop up in an urban fantasy novel. I'm only 17% into the book though but it's pretty good so far.
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High Warlord Zog posted:There are audiobook versions of Chuck Tingle's stories, that's... not something I associate with self published erotica. They seem really competently read too. It's pretty common, actually. There's lots of amateur voice actors who need cash and are willing to do porn, much like writers.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:New Craig Schaefer book is incredibly insane. I'm about 15-20% into it and I'm not spoiling anything. Just gonna say "What...the...gently caress??" What are you talking about here? I've read it and I can't think of anything that qualifies for that.
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I'm disappointed that TTBC didn't make the list, but I'm almost as relieved that Jurassic World didn't make the list either. The upside to anything of Vox Day's on the ballot is that this means there's that much less of it for me to read. 
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Luna: New Moon is great so far. I noticed that it has tons more sex than other Ian MacDonald books I've read so I figured it's TV deal would be for HBO or one of the other premium cable networks, but I looked it up and it's for CBS, wtf, they're not going to be able to show even a tiny fraction of this stuff.
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Apr 27, 2016 08:14
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Oh, and Adam Whitehead's History of Epic Fantasy didn't get nominated either. I'm really not looking forward to the next two months.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:If I liked KJ Parker, should I give Tom Holt a spin, or is the non-pseudonym stuff completely different? Try his historicals.
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Apr 27, 2016 08:57
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Is Paul McAuley any good? Amazon just recommended his new book, the sequel to Something Coming Through. Those and The Quiet war seem right up my alley.
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Apr 27, 2016 09:49
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:All I'm gonna say is it is something that I never, ever thought would pop up in an urban fantasy novel.
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Junkenstein posted:Is Paul McAuley any good? Amazon just recommended his new book, the sequel to Something Coming Through. Those and The Quiet war seem right up my alley. I liked something coming through quite a bit, though that's the only thing of his I've read.
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Apr 27, 2016 11:40
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I hadn't realized how many categories the Rabid Puppies swept or nearly swept. I feel like this is Chuck Tingle's year. http://file770.com/?p=28616
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Apr 27, 2016 13:22
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Another vote for The Fifth Season. People should check it out if they haven't already. Seveneves will probably win though, since it has crossover appeal with both demographics and stands out as 'the establishment' choice. It also means that the puppies can claim that they won, even if it had meant putting popular books on their award list. Maybe then, they could call it a day (lol).
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Tokamak posted:Another vote for The Fifth Season. People should check it out if they haven't already. Seveneves will probably win though, since it has crossover appeal with both demographics and stands out as 'the establishment' choice. It also means that the puppies can claim that they won, even if it had meant putting popular books on their award list. Maybe then, they could call it a day (lol). Vox Day won't stop putting out slates until the awards are broken. But yeah, he'll also claim that whatever result happens was all according to his plan, no matter what the results are. Meanwhile, the Sad Puppies seem to have mellowed out a whole lot this year and gone back to listing recommendations instead of slates. It's a shame that this doesn't make this year's Hugos any better. They'll probably go back to playing hardball next year because I doubt people will shout at them any less this year.
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Solitair posted:Meanwhile, the Sad Puppies seem to have mellowed out a whole lot this year and gone back to listing recommendations instead of slates. They were getting extremely salty at people asking to be removed from their lists (like Reynolds).
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Solitair posted:Vox Day won't stop putting out slates until the awards are broken. But yeah, he'll also claim that whatever result happens was all according to his plan, no matter what the results are. This. Someone could roll up on Vox Day's house, tar and feather him then force him to do a Game of Thrones penance walk while people hurl rotten fruit at him, and his response would be "Aha! You did exactly as I planned, every step of the way! You are all my puppets!". Watching him change his story after the No Awards came down last year was hilarious, literally going from "We will dominate the Hugos!" to "You stupid SJWs downvoted all of my choices, just like I WANTED you to!" in the span of seconds.
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Yes, Sad Puppies got a lot of nominees, but there were lots of pieces on the slate and it's much less like Rabid Puppies than last year, so I think it's genuinely mellowed out a bit. Not so dear old Theo.Solitair posted:Oh, and Adam Whitehead's History of Epic Fantasy didn't get nominated either. I'm really not looking forward to the next two months. That was a series of blogposts, not that unusual it wasn't nominated. neongrey posted:It's pretty common, actually. There's lots of amateur voice actors who need cash and are willing to do porn, much like writers. Well, audiobooks have certain advantages over books for porn, and they're getting more popular these days, so...
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Solitair posted:Vox Day won't stop putting out slates until the awards are broken. But yeah, he'll also claim that whatever result happens was all according to his plan, no matter what the results are. There will likely be new nomination rules in place next year so they can play hardball all they want, but slate voting won't work.
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House Louse posted:Yes, Sad Puppies got a lot of nominees, but there were lots of pieces on the slate and it's much less like Rabid Puppies than last year, so I think it's genuinely mellowed out a bit. Not so dear old Theo.
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You're right about the first, my mistake. Doublechecking I think I saw two entries that were Sad but not Rabid, including Binti. The second might be true but remember, everyone who voted last year can nominate this year, so there's a large pool of potentially Rabid voters already eligible; half Day's work is done for him already. I'm not worrying yet. Oh, and the first Rabid Puppy nominee has already declined the award - Thomas A. Mays, who's previously worked with Day. E: idiotsavant posted:Duh, yeah - New Sun. To add to what annihElated said, maybe you should think about Severian's childhood and how's it's affected him and, for instance, his relationships with women. It might make him a more interesting character. Wolfe discussion can focus more on the external stuff than the actual characters. But if not, yeah, no need to push yourself. If you're expecting a big plot twist, it's not really coming. Maybe in The Sword of the Lictor. Safety Biscuits fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Apr 27, 2016 |
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anilEhilated posted:Really? Because its title makes me think "vampires" and I'm kinda wary of that.
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Stuporstar posted:Read Binti a while ago, and my only complaint was it was too damned short. In other words, it was great. Good news. quote:Okorafor shares how Binti: Home came about :
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Solitair posted:Vox Day won't stop putting out slates until the awards are broken. But yeah, he'll also claim that whatever result happens was all according to his plan, no matter what the results are. Hopefully next year's voting rules will do away with slating. Of course, tactical voting will always have an advantage (thus why America has a two party system, for instance!), and I don't know if that's a solvable problem.
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fritz posted:They were getting extremely salty at people asking to be removed from their lists (like Reynolds). I stand corrected, and honestly a bit embarrassed. I stood up for Sarah Hoyt last year, saying she was unfairly ignored by the media and had better points to make than Brad Torgerson, and now she's acting like a loving child.
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Khizan posted:What are you talking about here? I've read it and I can't think of anything that qualifies for that. Red Knight Falling is the newest one, came out on Tuesday. anilEhilated posted:Really? Because its title makes me think "vampires" and I'm kinda wary of that. Nope. Weirdly enough, the Faust books and the whole universe he has set up really doesn't include vampires pretty much at all. I know those are like an urban fantasy staple but I can't recall any books about em that he's written, at least not off the top of my head.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Red Knight Falling is the newest one, came out on Tuesday. Yeah, I mean that I can't think of anything that would qualify as a "what the gently caress!?" in the start of it. Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Nope. Weirdly enough, the Faust books and the whole universe he has set up really doesn't include vampires pretty much at all. I know those are like an urban fantasy staple but I can't recall any books about em that he's written, at least not off the top of my head.
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I'm getting the impression that this thread really doesn't like vampires. Anno Dracula is cool.
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Khizan posted:Yeah, I mean that I can't think of anything that would qualify as a "what the gently caress!?" in the start of it. Really? How often in Urban Fantasy do you get to see (Big WTF spoiler)a 2km tall naked guy in outer space yelling at a satellite? That's definitely a first for me... Still reading it though, so I have no idea where it's going, and I love that. chrisoya posted:I'm getting the impression that this thread really doesn't like vampires. Eh, vamps are ok. Just 95% of them written in the UF genre tend to be some kinda weird BBW/gay/shifter porn. I enjoyed the Joe Pitt series, the take on em in the Joe Ledger series, Generation V, etc. Just depends on who's writing em and what the plot is really. Same can be said of werewolves.
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chrisoya posted:I'm getting the impression that this thread really doesn't like vampires. Except when they're in Blindsight, I guess..
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I like vampires in the Kate Daniels series, where they're feral, mindless flesheating monsters that are remotely piloted like drones, or in the Pax Arcana series, where they're dessicated corpses that only look attractive to humans through magic. Not a huge fan of the whole sexy vampire cliche in a lot of UF.
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savinhill posted:Luna: New Moon is great so far. I noticed that it has tons more sex than other Ian MacDonald books I've read so I figured it's TV deal would be for HBO or one of the other premium cable networks, but I looked it up and it's for CBS, wtf, they're not going to be able to show even a tiny fraction of this stuff. One of my favorite books of the past year, along with TTBC. Really excited about Wolf Moon.
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chrisoya posted:I'm getting the impression that this thread really doesn't like vampires. Vampires in urban fantasy are generally bad news, though. Anyhow, I'm reading the second HB book now and while nothing out of the ordinary happened, in Schaefer I (generally) trust. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Apr 27, 2016 |
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XBenedict posted:Good news.  A trilogy even!
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chrisoya posted:Anno Dracula is cool. I thought Anno Dracula fell somewhat flat. Conceptually, I thought it was interesting, and it had some good scenes, but it just didn't all gel well for me. It's only the second book of Newman's I read. The other, The Hound of the D'Urbervilles, I thought was was a bit uneven. The good stories were good, the conclusion I enjoyed, but a lot were sorta blah. There's just something where he and I aren't clicking and I can't quite put my finger on it. Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Eh, vamps are ok. Just 95% of them written in the UF genre tend to be some kinda weird BBW/gay/shifter porn. I enjoyed the Joe Pitt series, the take on em in the Joe Ledger series, Generation V, etc. Just depends on who's writing em and what the plot is really. Same can be said of werewolves. The Joe Pitt series is good. Or at least enjoyable. I tend to get really swept up in Huston's style.
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Junkenstein posted:Is Paul McAuley any good? Amazon just recommended his new book, the sequel to Something Coming Through. Those and The Quiet war seem right up my alley. I enjoyed "The Quiet War" and the second book in the series "Gardens of the Sun" quite a bit. It's a bit of a slow starter though so be prepared to slog through the first 50-75 pages before it picks up. Once it does though it's got some great world building and an interesting plot. McAuley is a botanist though, so expect a lot of info dumps relating to that. Definitely good books. I've been reading the third book of the series on and off for a couple months and haven't been too impressed with it. It's set about 1500 years after the second and is only very loosely connected. I finished "Children of Time" by Adrian Tchaikovsky a couple of weeks ago and loved it. It's about the survivors from a post war uninhabitable earth and solar system checking out a pre war terraformed planet. You find out pretty early in the story what the deal with the planet is but I don't want to ruin as it was cool to go into it knowing nothing. I definitely got the feeling that Adrian Tchaikovsky is a big Vinge fan. There's a lot of similarities with "A Deepness in the Sky", although I think his portrayal of an intelligent Arachnid civilization was done much better than Vinge's. One of the best books I've read this year.
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ed balls balls man posted:^^^^ One of my favorite things in The Quiet War was the clones subplot. I agree about McCauley though, I liked everything about the Quiet War except for the too-long ecosystem descriptions, but they were easy enough to skim through if I wanted to get back to the plot. He's just one of those authors I forget about when it comes time to pick a new book to read, but is definitely deserving of more recognition if the Quiet War is a good representative of the quality of his other work. Yeah, it's great so far. I've read that MacDonald said it's supposed to be like the Godfather and Game of Thrones on the moon, but it reminds me a lot of Dune too, which is always a good thing. The only thing I don't like about it so far is that there's been a lot of pages devoted to the teen son that I'd rather have focus on other characters, but I imagine his POVs will become more plot relevant by the end of the book. Ben Nevis posted:I thought Anno Dracula fell somewhat flat. Conceptually, I thought it was interesting, and it had some good scenes, but it just didn't all gel well for me. It's only the second book of Newman's I read. The other, The Hound of the D'Urbervilles, I thought was was a bit uneven. The good stories were good, the conclusion I enjoyed, but a lot were sorta blah. There's just something where he and I aren't clicking and I can't quite put my finger on it. For me, Newman's very good at setting a scene and atmosphere, and describing creepy poo poo in an actually unsettling way. That's what I liked best about Anno Dracula, he made the vampires actually gross and scary for me. I read his book Jago, and while that had a great setting/concept with the hippy doomsday cult and the apocalyptic music festival, and some great, memorable scenes, the plot just went on too long and fell apart imo. savinhill fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Apr 27, 2016 |
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anilEhilated posted:Anno Dracula is cool and I don't think I read anything by Kim Newman that I didn't like. Well, I haven't read his Warhammer stuff. His Dark Future stuff is pretty hilarious mostly because he had almost no setting material he had to incorporate and decided to take the piss, hence stuff like throwaway references to Maggie Thatcher writing romance novels.
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I'm about 60 pages into The Quantum Thief. Reminds me a lot of Neuromancer with how little explanation and handholding there is. Not necessarily a bad thing. Pretty good so far.
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holocaust bloopers posted:I'm about 60 pages into The Quantum Thief. Reminds me a lot of Neuromancer with how little explanation and handholding there is. Not necessarily a bad thing. Pretty good so far. This was the main reason I loved The Quantum Thief. It grabs you by the face and unapologetically never lets go. I have never heard of the Neuromancer though, would you recommend it?
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AmericanGeeksta posted:This was the main reason I loved The Quantum Thief. It grabs you by the face and unapologetically never lets go. I have never heard of the Neuromancer though, would you recommend it? Neuromancer is a classic and is insanely influential on modern culture, you should absolutely read it.
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