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Jack Trades posted:Fat ugly and socially retarded neckbeards with slight psychopathic tendencies, like me, love playing a crazy, sexy and charismatic character, like Vega. this, but even more so.
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A.o.D. posted:Nonsense, her matchup against zangief and Vega is outstanding. Using clawless really helps in that match-up by the way. Evil Canadian posted:Seriously loving stop using Claw on Vega. If you think Vega is bad its because you are using the claw. No claw vega has huge damage output, is plus on everything, still has good range, and the walkspeed to make all that pressure work. You're probably totally right, I just...want to go back to poking people to death.
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Stefan Prodan posted:My wife and I play together a lot and she's like completely new to fighting games and she's switching from Ryu to Ken because she loves to ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK I guess, I know there's like a billion resources about Ryu because he's the go to newbie guy, are there any good detailed videos/guides for Ken? She has the SF5god one bookmarked but like I know one guy has those 90 min character guides with everyone but there's none for Ken Ken is pretty average in this game at best and a shoto that people hate since SFIV where every casual low rank online was picking him, that's probably why there is no guides for him (also Capcom apparently hates him because of that terrifying character select model.) Even as a casual player I wouldn't recommend Ken for a total beginner in SFV because at the end of the day you still have to learn Ryu to learn Ken and in that order imho. If you're learning to use a shoto and pick Ken, you'll just end up playing him like Ryu, in which case you're just playing a bad Ryu and his style is really different. As with all mediocre characters in any fighter, getting even the smallest amount of success can be pretty demanding and perhaps too much for someone without much experience, while with a character like Ryu the simplest things will take you far and the simple things is what you want to master first.
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Charge newbie question I get thrown all the time cause they know im chargin. How do i mix it up?
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May 1, 2016 04:26
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Jack Trades posted:Using clawless really helps in that match-up by the way. If you wanna poke the night away, Chun, Birdie and Karin are all great picks. *edit* And clawless isn't bad for pokes either, st.mp has some decent range on it and is is quite quick at 6 frames, on top of being special cancelable. Evil Canadian fucked around with this message at 04:38 on May 1, 2016 |
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Pomp posted:you know you don't lose charge if you press buttons right Lol ok thanks
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Dr. Video Games 0112 posted:Ken is pretty average in this game at best and a shoto that people hate since SFIV where every casual low rank online was picking him, that's probably why there is no guides for him (also Capcom apparently hates him because of that terrifying character select model.) Even as a casual player I wouldn't recommend Ken for a total beginner in SFV because at the end of the day you still have to learn Ryu to learn Ken and in that order imho. If you're learning to use a shoto and pick Ken, you'll just end up playing him like Ryu, in which case you're just playing a bad Ryu and his style is really different. As with all mediocre characters in any fighter, getting even the smallest amount of success can be pretty demanding and perhaps too much for someone without much experience, while with a character like Ryu the simplest things will take you far and the simple things is what you want to master first. Ok, what's the deal with Ken? He's the one character I see oscillate wildly in terms of rankings. I mean I find him to be pretty fun in this game, but opinion on him shifts all the time in terms of how effective he is. What gives?
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cloofish posted:Ok, what's the deal with Ken? He's the one character I see oscillate wildly in terms of rankings. I mean I find him to be pretty fun in this game, but opinion on him shifts all the time in terms of how effective he is. What gives? Infiltration explains it pretty well in this section: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVUTiy57VVc&t=642s Some things he doesn't cover: his low confirms aren't bad but not great either, he generally needs super or vtrigger to make you respect his low options. Characters like Necalli and Chun both have safe, effective ways to conserve momentum off low hits that doesn't involve a point blank cr.LK. This sounds really specific but this is a really common scenario for midscreen pressure, and if your lows aren't scary enough midscreen people will hold back on you a lot and walk right out of your offense. This leaves Ken with mostly options that either 1. Reset you back to neutral or 2. Risk overextending by doing stuff like dash/VSkill/sweep to keep his momentum. Like, despite his flaws he's still really good, but the most you can push him towards is A tier IMO. Anyone who puts Ken higher is crazy.
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So people under RQ cooldown can still play Casual. Let me get this straight, Capcom. Instead of removing ragequitters from Ranked, you spread them out between Ranked and Casual, so now I can't even stick to Casual if I want to avoid them? Great job. Evil Canadian posted:And clawless isn't bad for pokes either, st.mp has some decent range on it and is is quite quick at 6 frames, on top of being special cancelable. I just tried playing a few matches 100% clawless and sadly, it worked very well. I didn't even notice any practical reduction in my range and f.hp was always useless anyways. *sigh* Vega, what did they do to you. Evil Canadian posted:If you wanna poke the night away, Chun, Birdie and Karin are all great picks. I tried both of them out but Chun and Karin are way too difficult to play with my level of execution and Birdie is just sooooo slooow. The reason why I loved Vega so much in SF4 was because his buttons were insane AND he had the movespeed that allowed me to stand exactly where I wanted for those buttons to work properly. And also rolls were safe. I was basically chipping away at my opponents with rolls, buttons, anti-airs and punishes with occasional surprise switches into pressure with things like max-range Cosmic Heel. And now Capcom took everything away from him. :/ Jack Trades fucked around with this message at 05:20 on May 1, 2016 |
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apple posted:Infiltration explains it pretty well in this section: Thanks, great info all around. I've only just started trying to become actually good so it's good to know I'm not pursuing a lost cause. What would be the top tier, in your opinion?
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Dr. Video Games 0112 posted:Ken is pretty average in this game at best and a shoto that people hate since SFIV where every casual low rank online was picking him, that's probably why there is no guides for him (also Capcom apparently hates him because of that terrifying character select model.) Even as a casual player I wouldn't recommend Ken for a total beginner in SFV because at the end of the day you still have to learn Ryu to learn Ken and in that order imho. If you're learning to use a shoto and pick Ken, you'll just end up playing him like Ryu, in which case you're just playing a bad Ryu and his style is really different. As with all mediocre characters in any fighter, getting even the smallest amount of success can be pretty demanding and perhaps too much for someone without much experience, while with a character like Ryu the simplest things will take you far and the simple things is what you want to master first. She just really finds Ken fun and is playing for fun so I mean I think there is 0% chance she is going to play anyone else
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Stefan Prodan posted:She just really finds Ken fun and is playing for fun so I mean I think there is 0% chance she is going to play anyone else it doesn't matter, just play whoever is fun. you and her arent now and likely never will be good enough for 99% of this finger puzzle bullshit to apply to you or be applied by you anyway
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Zand posted:it doesn't matter, just play whoever is fun. you and her arent now and likely never will be good enough for 99% of this finger puzzle bullshit to apply to you or be applied by you anyway Yeah nope, just was wondering if there were good Ken materials out there, sounds like there aren't that many at the moment?
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I think bebaloorpabopalo knows a good guide for the "Ken Howitzer"
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Stefan Prodan posted:Yeah nope, just was wondering if there were good Ken materials out there, sounds like there aren't that many at the moment?
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As far as I know these guys are displaying how you are supposed to play Ken right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpLU8eqrs7o
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In all seriousness Momochi's Ken guide is more than good enough, I can't even think of anything useful to add to it since the rest is more general fighting game concepts like learning footsies and stuff.
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Were match times supposed to get better with the guile update? They havent
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I'm a Laura scrub. What are some good Laura guides to that I can stop getting my rear end beat?
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Real hurthling! posted:Were match times supposed to get better with the guile update? They havent hard to find matches in dead game...the xrd dilemma
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Real hurthling! posted:Charge newbie question Punch them in the dick. Also just because you are a charge character dosent mean you have to down back the whole time.
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ChazTurbo posted:I'm a Laura scrub. What are some good Laura guides to that I can stop getting my rear end beat? Just do poo poo and command grab then random ex elbow whenever you're feeling frisky
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apple posted:I think bebaloorpabopalo knows a good guide for the "Ken Howitzer" I don't know, that sounds like it's for the ladies...
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Stefan Prodan posted:As far as I know these guys are displaying how you are supposed to play Ken right they're not using the Kevin Mashers outfit so not quite.
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Stefan Prodan posted:As far as I know these guys are displaying how you are supposed to play Ken right Doesn't sound like you need a guide.
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ZenVulgarity posted:Is Vega the new worst character in this thread or something
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Chun is terrible. She's incredibly demanding execution-wise while outputting very little damage, she doesn't have reliable ways of opening up an opponent, her fireball pales in comparison to the shotos, Nash and Guile, her anti-air only deals 20 damage and her jump is floaty and unreliable. Please buff, Capcom.
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Cat Machine posted:zangief, as evidenced by the fact nobody ever discusses him because nobody plays him more people talk gief than cammy
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Chun is terrible because she is the same boring Chun-Li she's always been
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May 1, 2016 17:42
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Baal posted:Chun is terrible because she is the same boring Chun-Li she's always been no, she's a different kind of boring, she can do air legs!
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She could do that in Marvel
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There are hotter Street Fighters There are also hotter Killer Instincters  Burn babyyyyy
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He can have fire nipples
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