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CelticPredator posted:gently caress this stupid poo poo. You're the one refusing to believe in the existence of humor that doesn't make you personally chuckle, at a bare minimum.
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Luminous Obscurity posted:Batman's reflexive little "woah, buddy" gesture as the gas wears off when he's punching Superman was def one of my favorite gags I've seen in a superhero film in a while Also Superman tapping Batman on the shoulder sending him near the entire length of the alley they're in in response to Batman getting up in his face and being a belligerent rear end in a top hat. *I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY -" *flies like fifty feet backwards from a tiny push* Most of the jokes are basically centered around Batman, really. Stuff like his pecking with Alfred, or him being like "I am so loving far out of my league" with everything Doomsday like when he has to run and hide under a piece of debris when the energy wave comes while Wonder Woman and Superman just kinda throw their arms up and lower their center of gravity. There's literally just a point where he climbs out from under the rock and watches the other two fight the monster and it's kind of effective as both him being in awe of the spectacle in front of him and also him being like "I have zero goddamn idea what to do here". Which in turn leads to Doomsday turning his sights on him and Batman just pulling an "exit stage left" with his grappling gun and running like Bugs Bunny being chased by Elmer Fudd.
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The nightmare scene was hilarious, I was laughing the entire time. It was just so bizarre and trippy and I had no idea what was going on so it rolled around to being funny for me.
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May 1, 2016 07:13
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BVS has great jokes: a fuckin ugly statue at Ground Zero, "Dozens Killed" in quotation marks while Wayne Tower gets the headline, the smartphone interface on the secret alien files, Batman's brand is literally the movie's logo, Lex feeds Zod a Jolly Rancher, Ma Kent is disgusted with Nancy Grace, all the celebrity pundit cameos, pretty much everything Batsman does.... The only issue is that you're not told these are jokes.
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Because they aren't jokes.
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CelticPredator posted:Because they aren't jokes. everythings a joke
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May 1, 2016 07:59
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BiggerBoat posted:I think DC should scrap the built universe thing and just go directly to having Snyder make a four hour Kingdome Come movie. it would be like a loving fever dream CelticPredator posted:Because they aren't jokes.
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May 1, 2016 08:02
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I'll conceit that Batman hitting Superman and Superman getting stronger after the gas wears off is a joke.
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May 1, 2016 08:04
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The dream sequence is one of the most sincere depictions of comic book insanity I've seen. But it is in no way supposed to be comedic. The fact that some finds the scene inherently funny doesn't change that fact. Like, when I saw Civil War someone in the theater burst out laughing when Tony talked about the alumni who died when they failed to do their job. Some laughed hard when Rhodes crashed and broke his back. That doesn't make those scenes comedic.
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May 1, 2016 08:09
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The scene that got the biggest belly laugh from me was probably when the waynes got shot.
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May 1, 2016 08:20
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I will admit I laughed during the fight in the dream sequence because of the poorly executed fight choreography.
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Jerkface posted:The scene that got the biggest belly laugh from me was probably when the waynes got shot. The iconography of the pearls wrapped around the gun was pretty ludicrous, probably one of those moments where it would have been better to not directly reference the comic
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May 1, 2016 08:57
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When Superman tries to punch Doomsday, Doomsday should have caught Superman's fist which prompts Superman to comment "Hm, upgrades!" When Doomsday was chasing Batman around, Batman should have yelled "I'm too old for this sh*t!" Maybe Doomsday could have knocked Wonder Woman into Batman and they both go down and he accidentally touches her boob and is really awkward about it, haha! Superman should have worn his red panties over his costume so Batman could have said "Hey, nice panties!"
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May 1, 2016 08:58
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Or Joyless Goyer could've tried to add some natural levity. I feel like he doesn't understand what humor is. Almost everything good and funny probably came from the actors. Goyer is bad.
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May 1, 2016 09:06
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The 'I though she was with you' joke is terrible, but Batman's "please don't hit me" pose was funny, even if it felt pretty out of character.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:The iconography of the pearls wrapped around the gun was pretty ludicrous, probably one of those moments where it would have been better to not directly reference the comic Yeah, I never liked it in the comics either. I mean, it's a striking image, but its ridiculousness overshadows its emotional impact for me.
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May 1, 2016 09:12
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Renoistic posted:The 'I though she was with you' joke is terrible, but Batman's "please don't hit me" pose was funny, even if it felt pretty out of character. This Batman probably never faced anything like this before. Maybe he fought Bane, but Bane did not have laser face powers. He was... unprepared.
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"Joyless Goyer" I'm expecting "Hack Snyder" next
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May 1, 2016 09:17
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I love the "I thought she was with you!" line because Batman is in the process of losing his god drat mind. It's delivered perfectly as a "Welp what's next, a fish dude?"
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May 1, 2016 09:20
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CelticPredator posted:Or Joyless Goyer could've tried to add some natural levity.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:"Joyless Goyer" TetsuoTW posted:Based on these last few pages I'm not sure you're in much position to call anyone out for not knowing what jokes are. Jokes and humor aren't the same thing, man. A joke requires a set up, and a pay off. Humor doesn't require any of that. Obviously I don't find weird comic book poo poo inherently funny, but if that's the level Goyer is operating on, well, fine. He can do his thing, but I think it's poo poo.
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Grendels Dad posted:I love the "I thought she was with you!" line because Batman is in the process of losing his god drat mind. It's delivered perfectly as a "Welp what's next, a fish dude?" He'd worked so hard towards a single goal these last 18 months and all that suddenly got thrown in the shitter, no wonder he was having trouble adjusting. The first 2/3 of the movie worked really, really hard to establish the groundwork for Batman wanting to murder Superman and then all of that was unravelled with 6 lines of dialogue and then before they can unpack all that Doomsday appears and it turns out all that poo poo was irrelevant anyway because there's bigger, badder things to deal with. MoS did a similar thing where Clark spent 2/3 of the movie agonising over whether to use his powers to save people and reveal himself or whether the human race wasn't ready to accept that there was an alien living among them and then Zod turns up and announces "Hey, there's an alien living among you!" on worldwide television.
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Really wasn't expecting people to outright state that they want their comic book movies to be escapism devoid of any nuance, but this thread does have a habit of surprising me from time to time.
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Martha Kent saying "I figured. The cape." is the funniest moment in any superhero movie ever. Saying BvS doesn't have jokes requires the same kind of ignorance of the text on the most basic level as pretty much most of the criticism thrown at that movie, though, so I get where you're coming from.
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PiedPiper posted:Yeah, I never liked it in the comics either. I mean, it's a striking image, but its ridiculousness overshadows its emotional impact for me. It is literally a dream sequence.
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PiedPiper posted:Yeah, I never liked it in the comics either. I mean, it's a striking image, but its ridiculousness overshadows its emotional impact for me. In both cases, it's not a literal recollection of what happened.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:In both cases, it's not a literal recollection of what happened. Huh, always thought it was just a flashback. It doesn't change my opinion, though. Still looks weird. 
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:He'd worked so hard towards a single goal these last 18 months and all that suddenly got thrown in the shitter, no wonder he was having trouble adjusting. The first 2/3 of the movie worked really, really hard to establish the groundwork for Batman wanting to murder Superman and then all of that was unravelled with 6 lines of dialogue and then before they can unpack all that Doomsday appears and it turns out all that poo poo was irrelevant anyway because there's bigger, badder things to deal with. I really liked how freeing of Martha felt like a liberation of Batman. Should have cut back to Alfred in the Batcave leaning back in his chair and say "This is what Batman's supposed to be!" while Batman chokeslams a dude. And immediately after that, Batman is thrown into a fistfight with the gods and has to fly by the seat of his pants, but ironically enough his preparations to murder Superman have probably done a lot to help him survive Doomsday.
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PiedPiper posted:Huh, always thought it was just a flashback. It doesn't change my opinion, though. Still looks weird. A flashback is not a literal recollection. Look at the look on Bruce's face; he may be conflating things in his mind. Batman believes in his own mythology. We see his origin story as he sees it. That's why the bats "take him to the light". He remembers that as the moment he became more than human.
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May 1, 2016 12:37
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The dinky green light bulbs signaling the total breakdown into nightmare were freaking hilarious.
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May 1, 2016 12:58
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I laughed at Batman's training montage.
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I laughed a lot at Batman's angry driving after Superman casually hosed up the Batmobile.
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Seriously, all that was missing from Batman's angry drive and angry crossfit was the theme from Kevin Bacon's angry danceout in Footloose.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:The iconography of the pearls wrapped around the gun was pretty ludicrous, probably one of those moments where it would have been better to not directly reference the comic The slow mo doesn't help, because it looks like Martha is going, "Well, looks like I could only judo the gun to about here, because plot device.".
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Joe Gillian posted:The slow mo doesn't help, because it looks like Martha is going, "Well, looks like I could only judo the gun to about here, because plot device.". I don't follow.
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CelticPredator posted:Inception's issue might be Cobb's lack of a real personality. He's probably the coldest of all of Nolan's heroes. I like him, alright, but I can understand their issues with him. To each his own, etc., I just find it really interesting that we as viewers can have such conflicting yet strong reactions regarding certain films to the point where we almost accept them as universal and get surprised when others feel differently.
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DC's movies depict a dour and oppressive world where people manage to rise to greatness through heroism and generosity despite their surroundings. Marvel movies insist that the world was already a great place were it not for those supernazis loving everything up, so if we eliminate them, everything will be fine. When people say that DC's movies are depressing, what they actually mean is that they're honest. BvS's antagonists aren't just scared of Superman because he's a powerful alien, they're annoyed and in disbelief of his unbridled optimism - that he hasn't let the world around him corrupt himself. "No one stays good in this world," etc. "God is either all good, or all powerful. He cannot be both!" "I bet your parents told you you were special, that you had a purpose. Mine taught me something different, dying in the gutter, for no reason at all. They taught me that this world only makes sense f you force it to." "gently caress that stupid poo poo."
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Pirate Jet posted:DC's movies depict a dour and oppressive world where people manage to rise to greatness through heroism and generosity despite their surroundings. Marvel movies insist that the world was already a great place were it not for those supernazis loving everything up, so if we eliminate them, everything will be fine. When people say that DC's movies are depressing, what they actually mean is that they're honest.  
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Ferrinus posted:The dinky green light bulbs signaling the total breakdown into nightmare were freaking hilarious. https://zippy.gfycat.com/FlashySnivelingBee.webm e: bonus i don't think I've posted yet: https://gfycat.com/GrotesqueWhoppingAntelope.webm MacheteZombie fucked around with this message at 17:18 on May 1, 2016 |
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The green bulbs and how they are wired are silly. In a post apocalyptic world wouldn't you just put a flashlight in an old Mt Dew bottle? Nope, have to find some steampunk green bulbs, wire up a scooter battery, take apart a couple lamps for the sockets...
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