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I don't think Irish people are particularly racist. Irish people tend to be quite ignorant of race because of the homogeneity, but they lack the virulent racism you find many places elsewhere in the world. The 'racism' of older Irish people is just down to a lack of experience with other races. They wouldn't see anything wrong with making jokes about black people for example because they might have gone their whole life without meeting one - its a completely abstract concept to them. I think thats probably the case with Gerry here. If you spend time in the deep south in the US, or South Africa, or anywhere with real actual racial problems you'll see there's a massive difference. In places with racial tensions the racism has a very severe undertone of hatred/fear rather than ignorance, which makes it a lot more sinister. And harder to fix.
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kustomkarkommando posted:As has been pointed out a lot drawing an equivalence between treatment of nationalists in northern Ireland in 50s-60s and the horrors of American slavery is pretty bizarre, considering Gerry recently compared himself to Rosa parks cause he was stopped by security while attempting to attend a white house gathering the man seems to have lost of the run of himself. When I was at QUB a woman in a tutorial once said that Gerry Adams and Martin Luther King were incredibly similar and had faced the same struggle and fought using the same methods. To this day it is one of the dumbest claims I've ever heard and the professor running the tutorials face was a thing of beauty.
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May 2, 2016 17:50
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Gerry also today described himself as a founding member of the NI Civil Rights Movement while defending his tweet which has raised a few eyebrows
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kustomkarkommando posted:Gerry also today described himself as a founding member of the NI Civil Rights Movement while defending his tweet which has raised a few eyebrows Eamonn McCann must be apoplectic right now, I hope there is a full rage column for him on the way.
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May 2, 2016 20:26
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I have to wonder what it would be like on Twitter if Michael Stone hadn't been locked up again in 2006.
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Blut posted:I don't think Irish people are particularly racist. Irish people tend to be quite ignorant of race because of the homogeneity, but they lack the virulent racism you find many places elsewhere in the world. The 'racism' of older Irish people is just down to a lack of experience with other races. They wouldn't see anything wrong with making jokes about black people for example because they might have gone their whole life without meeting one I wouldn't say that. Plenty of young people here, who grew up without that homogeneity are virulently racist.
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May 2, 2016 23:51
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Also the whole Travellers thing.
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May 3, 2016 04:19
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 Near had a heart attack when I saw that caption. It's a typo, thank Christ.
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May 3, 2016 08:28
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Danny Healy-Rae spouting bollicks in the Dail today. He's denied man-made climate change and said "God above in charge of the weather and we can't do anything about it". It makes me wonder how many of our politicians are climate change denialists.
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Marenghi posted:Danny Healy-Rae spouting bollicks in the Dail today. Is he a Catholic? Because I'm pretty sure the Pope has staked out a clear position on man-made climate change. Is Danny Healy-Rae harbouring heretical views? Someone should ask him to clarify.
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May 4, 2016 21:06
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A Healy-Rae speaking about anything other than Kerry? I'll be damned....
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May 4, 2016 21:26
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This comic is apt  gently caress the Healy-Raes.
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May 4, 2016 22:04
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Didn't the Healy Rae's both run on platforms calling for more money for flood defences. Guess they finally accept that God hates Kerry
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May 4, 2016 22:06
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The Healy Raes' weather knowledge begins and ends at rubbing their hands together and declaring it "too cold to snow"
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May 4, 2016 22:40
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Flood defences end up being pristine motorway around flood areas
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May 4, 2016 23:04
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forkboy84 posted:Is he a Catholic? Because I'm pretty sure the Pope has staked out a clear position on man-made climate change. Is Danny Healy-Rae harbouring heretical views? Someone should ask him to clarify. This would be fantastic. I unfortunately doubt Healy-Rae is even coming at this from a strict religious point of view, instead more than likely its just one of sheer godawful ignorance. The people of Kerry have a lot to answer for.
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May 4, 2016 23:23
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The cynic in me suspects the Healy-Rae's opinions on climate change are sung to the tune of the cattle industry or other rural polluting industries.
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Blut posted:I don't think Irish people are particularly racist. Irish people tend to be quite ignorant of race because of the homogeneity, but they lack the virulent racism you find many places elsewhere in the world. The 'racism' of older Irish people is just down to a lack of experience with other races. They wouldn't see anything wrong with making jokes about black people for example because they might have gone their whole life without meeting one - its a completely abstract concept to them. I think thats probably the case with Gerry here. This. Irish people have 200 years of inbuilt trying to guess what religion you are (Taig or Prod) from your name and home town, to notice what color your skin is. "Now would that be Zatala M'beko from the east Zambia, or west Zambia?"
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May 5, 2016 16:43
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"Now tell me, Ahmed, is this Allah buck a Catholic or Prod thing?"
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May 5, 2016 18:18
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EmmyOk posted:"Now tell me, Ahmed, is this Allah buck a Catholic or Prod thing?" muslims are catholics buddhism is a tricky one
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May 5, 2016 21:02
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Spangly A posted:muslims are catholics I think its the same as if your say you're an atheist, 'Aye sur, but are ye a Protestant Buddhist or a Catholic Buddhist?"
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May 5, 2016 21:21
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Blut posted:I don't think Irish people are particularly racist. Irish people tend to be quite ignorant of race because of the homogeneity, but they lack the virulent racism you find many places elsewhere in the world. The 'racism' of older Irish people is just down to a lack of experience with other races. They wouldn't see anything wrong with making jokes about black people for example because they might have gone their whole life without meeting one - its a completely abstract concept to them. I think thats probably the case with Gerry here. Irish people are pretty racist, but the older generations can be hilariously racist. My Gran-aunt answered the door to some african immigrant christian evangelical types back in the 90s when black people were even rarer in Ireland. Her reply to the "Are you a christian madam?" question is family folklore. "Sure wasn't I a christian when you people were still eating each other"
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echomadman posted:Irish people are pretty racist, but the older generations can be hilariously racist. My Gran-aunt answered the door to some african immigrant christian evangelical types back in the 90s when black people were even rarer in Ireland. Thats hilarious, but I'd still say that proves my ignorance point more than anything else. I doubt your grand-aunt was harboring a secret severe hatred of black people that was a major part of her life, it was probably just that she didn't really know anything about them so had odd old misconceptions when meeting one. Whereas if you'd had a grand-aunt from Alabama or Johannesburg she probably would literally have wanted to eradicate black people from her country, and would have considered them a sub-human species not worth deigning to talk to. Its the difference from making a vaguely racist comment on your doorstep vs setting the guard dogs on the nice African man and laughing as they tear into him, Monty Burns style.
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May 5, 2016 23:47
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Also the period 'No Blacks, No Irish, No Dogs' in the UK changed a few irish minds into hating white people more.
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May 5, 2016 23:50
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As a someone from the North I can confirm that yes a lot of Irish people are extremely racist and throw bricks at Eastern Europeans and cover houses in graffiti saying No Blacks. Since Gerry Adams tweet I have listened to a number of people explain to me how it's not really offensive and sure thats what you call them
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May 5, 2016 23:59
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I doubt we're much less racist it's just that we had less opportunity because we're still super white. When I worked in Centra an oul one told me the black guy I worked with was "the only nice black in the town". I agreed he was very nice which was a pretty canny move on my part. I just gaped at the woman who said the manager worked me like a white friend of the family.
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May 6, 2016 00:02
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We have government sign
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May 6, 2016 17:12
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Looks like PBP are winning a few seats up North:quote:Gerry Carroll of the People Before Profit Alliance has been elected to Stormont after topping the poll in west Belfast. I wonder if they'll start to undermine SF from the hard left economically, as republicanism/unionism fade away as issues somewhat. That'd be an interesting development.
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May 6, 2016 17:47
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McCann looks set to squeeze in for PBP in Foyle as well. Poor showing for the SDLPs third man and a strong showing for another left leaning (but barking mad) independent should see him nick the last seat all being good. It only took him 50 odd years
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May 6, 2016 17:55
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Pretty dire looking for the SDLP overall...
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May 6, 2016 18:04
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Bryter posted:Pretty dire looking for the SDLP overall... Eastwood did nothing to stem the bleeding and being reduced to two seats in Derry is going to be a humiliation. I wonder if hell last till the next election as leader. I think there's a fair chance they'll go opposition now
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May 6, 2016 18:18
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Fitzgerald as Tanaiste, Leo getting put in social protection. Shane Ross gets Transport
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May 6, 2016 18:45
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I'm back in Ireland in less than two weeks and I'm regretting my decision now.
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May 6, 2016 19:42
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Mary Mitchell O’Connor with a ministerial position... oh dear.
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May 6, 2016 20:21
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In Belfast West senior SDLP member and former Minister for the Environment Alex Attwood is teetering on the brink of elimination - he's won a seat in every election in the constituency since 1998. If he fails to make it that's gonna smart.
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May 6, 2016 21:50
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Actually what with the reduction in the number of Minsterial slots this go around Attwood getting knocked out might actually knock the SDLP out of the Executive based on some suggestions from wonkish quarters. Deary me.
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Cabinet posted:I'm back in Ireland in less than two weeks and I'm regretting my decision now. Why would you return? I couldn't see myself coming back once I have the experience to work abroad.
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