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lenoon
Jan 7, 2010

Though all these candidates are terrible, hope is on the horizon! The best president there never was is 21, and probably already going bald, soon comrades, soon!

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Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

lenoon posted:

Though all these candidates are terrible, hope is on the horizon! The best president there never was is 21, and probably already going bald, soon comrades, soon!

I had no idea Sanders was so old.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Cthulhu Dreams posted:

Given the candidates background, I think the traditional form of this expression is "Cooper!" *slams telegraph*

Fun fact: Alexander Graham Bell invents his telephone in the year of this election.

Transcontinental calling won’t be available for almost forty years. Transatlantic calling won’t be available for fifty.

AmyL
Aug 8, 2013


Black Thursday was a disaster, plain and simple.
We lost too many good people, too many planes.
We can't let that kind of tragedy happen again.
If Hayes wins, will the second Corrupt Bargain come into play in this alternative timeline or would it depend on the amount of votes Hayes receives?

I know, I know but I figure to play it safe for those that do not know the events that played in for this upcoming election.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

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AmyL posted:

If Hayes wins, will the second Corrupt Bargain come into play in this alternative timeline or would it depend on the amount of votes Hayes receives?

I know, I know but I figure to play it safe for those that do not know the events that played in for this upcoming election.

On one hand, if Hayes achieved a higher margin of victory then there would be no reason for the Republicans to bargain with the Democrats.

On the other hand, the American public is experiencing serious war exhaustion that is draining the resolve of even the most ardent abolitionists. For most of those in the North, the fight for black equality has little value at high cost. The Union has already been saved. The Confederate leadership has been punished. All the federal government is doing now is maintaining an expensive occupation and denying freedoms to former Confederates, men whom Northerners probably have more exposure to than the freedmen. Most Americans don't care about what happens to the former slaves.

There's declining political will behind Reconstruction. Even before the second corrupt bargain, Hayes recognized that the question was not whether Reconstruction would end but when.

fade5
May 31, 2012

by exmarx

QuoProQuid posted:


Presidential Nominee: Peter Cooper

Platform: Cooper has gained support as a reaction against the corrupt two-party system and their self-enriching monetary policies. Breaking from established economic thought, Cooper has called for the United States to move off the gold standard and debt-based bank currency system and instead embrace a credit-based, government-issued paper currency system. Cooper points to the success of the “Greenbacks” issued by the Treasury during the Civil War, as an example of a successful, mostly fiat money system. Cooper believes that once his non-gold-backed notes are issued, the expanded money supply will help restore the economy. Though Cooper considers himself an agrarian man and has avoided campaigning on any issue not related to the fiat money system, he is surprisingly popular with the urban poor, who believe that his monetary policy will raise their salaries and make debts easier to pay. Cooper is known to be sympathetic with the Native Americans and is responsible for the creation of the Board of Indian Commissioners. He is believed to be in favor of major reforms to current labor laws.
Sold on the beard, the fiat, and the stance on Native Americans. Cooper it is.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

I'm finding it very difficult to consider anybody else now that I've crossed the event horizon of Peter Cooper's facial hair.

Question about greenbacks: were they proposing some sort of fractional reserve currency, or were they going to go full fiat? Did the US Treasury department even know how to run a fiat currency?

Ibogaine
Aug 11, 2015

Nebakenezzer posted:

I'm finding it very difficult to consider anybody else now that I've crossed the event horizon of Peter Cooper's facial hair.

Question about greenbacks: were they proposing some sort of fractional reserve currency, or were they going to go full fiat? Did the US Treasury department even know how to run a fiat currency?

The treasury had already issued a fiat currency under Chase in the early 60s. The Legal Tender Acts essentially created a fiat currency. After the civil war the US dropped it because it was seen as a war time measure and returned to Ron Paul's beloved gold standard in 1866.

So the treasury could have returned to the basic system of greenbacks rather easily, I think. There were probably still a lot of people in the treasury who even had first-hand experience with the original greenbacks.

Ibogaine has issued a correction as of 18:12 on May 2, 2016

GSD
May 10, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
I got all excited to see so many pro-immigrant candidates, only to find they're all still for Chinese Exclusion. :(

Jai Guru Dave
Jan 3, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 17 hours!

Andorra posted:

None of the other candidates care about reconstruction, so I'm voting for Hayes who in the past has supported the rights of blacks. May this be yet another fair election in our wonderful Goon States of America.
Hear hear. "Bloody shirt" be damned. Ten short years ago the Democratic Party was indulging an orgy of destruction against the principles that founded our great nation. Christian doctrine instructs us to forgive, but how should we forgive when the sinners have not asked forgiveness? Without a strong federal commitment to the complete reconstruction of the decadent and savage plantation oligarchy, America will be forced to fight and re-fight the late civil war for decades, in every town, in every county. Only Rutherford B. Hayes, the great Union general, is capable of carrying on the great work of Ulysses S. Grant. Reconstruction until the job is done! This nation's centennial will bring a new beginning where ALL men are created equal! Hayes in '76!

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

fade5 posted:

Sold on the beard, the fiat, and the stance on Native Americans. Cooper it is.
Lots of people in this thread seem to fall for the beard alone, but you're getting some good policy stances with it. It's a great deal!

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Tilden is shockingly not the most chill candidate despite the mandatory weed

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

I...guess now would be a good time to get this reformer in who believes in soft money. Looks good on paper, but I can't help this sneaking suspicion that some of the complaints about corruption are also code for reconstruction. The Greenback party sounds nice, but their focus is way too narrow for my liking.

And I'm not necessarily against prohibition, but there's no way in hell that I want someone from a prominent Kentucky plating family in the Whitehouse.

Corek
May 11, 2013

by R. Guyovich


Like:
-Women's Rights?
-Socialism?
-Communism?

Vote Greenback!

Takanago
Jun 2, 2007

You'll see...
drat, can't argue against that.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Corek posted:



Like:
-Women's Rights?
-Socialism?
-Communism?

Vote Greenback!

Policies aside, that cartoon makes them look like they host party meetings in Williamsburg excuse me, "Little Berlin".

Yadoppsi
May 10, 2009
Hayes' platform is great, but I can't vote for him knowing he sold Reconstruction up the river IRL. Greenbacks it is.

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011

Pitching is the art of instilling fear.
Voting for the Greenbacks this time around

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.
Tilden seems pretty decent for the time

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

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Harper's Weekly on the Election of 1876

As you may know, Harper's Weekly was the country's preeminent magazine from 1860 to 1900. Along with news articles, essays, and fiction, the magazine is notable for its illustrations and political cartoons. Some of America's most influential cartoonists, including Thomas Nast, worked for the magazine. Though the magazine tried to maintain a somewhat moderate position during the Civil War, afterwards the magazine became openly partisan in favor of the Radical Republicans. Below are a few of the cartoons that the magazine published for the 1876 election. I will be highlighting only a few cartoons, but you can find more here.

THE REPUBLICAN TICKET:

Why We Laugh by Thomas Nast



Thomas Nast illustrates himself celebrating the nomination of Rutherford B. Hayes to the presidency and William Wheeler to the vice-presidency. Though the Republican Party was widely expected to lose coming into 1876, Nast believed that Hayes's credibility and his platform (depicted to the left) would help ensure continued Republican political dominance. A prior cartoon of Nast, in which he expresses confusion and concern about the eventual Republican nominee, is on the floor.

Getting in Tune by Thomas Nast



Senator Carl Schurz and New York Tribune editor Whitelaw Reid try to get in tune with the Hayes ticket. Schurz and Reid were largely responsible for Greenley's ill-fated run for the Presidency in 1872 and had hoped to use Greenley to start a new political party. After Greenley self-immolated, to Schurz and Reid's disappointment, the two begrudgingly returned to the Republican fold. Though they did not like the rampant corruption in Grant's administration, they could not abide by the Democratic Party and their nominee Tilden, whom they believed would bring the country to the brink of Civil War.


THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET

Goin' to St. Louis by George Colt



Colt satirizes the different factions within the Democratic Party. Front and center, the Democrats are led by an urban Tweed-esque political boss., clothed in a mix of a suit, jail attire, and reformist chains. Though Tilden supposedly crushed the power of the old political clubs, Colt believes that the Democrats just got better at hiding their corruption. The political boss is dragging a "Rag Baby," a common symbol for soft-money reformers, behind him. The boss is also flanked by the Catholic Church, which Hayes opposed, and the Ku-Klux-Klan, whose lawless brutality was frequently condemned by Republicans. In the rear is Tammany Hall, dressed as a Native American. Throughout the period, the Native Americans were portrayed as lawless brutes who would slaughter good Americans if given the chance. Colt is suggesting that the Democrats will butcher "real Americans" if Tilden is given a chance in office.

Tilden Spells Reform by M.A. Woolf



As you know, Tilden campaigned as a reformer, who wanted to toss out all of Grant's appointees to end the Executive Branch's seemingly endless problem with corruption. Republican cartoonists seized upon the idea that, despite his platform, Tilden's reforms were a sham and that what he really wanted was an excuse to fill the Executive with his lackeys. In this cartoon, Woolf depicts Tilden as a selfish hypocrite whose reforms are part pf a larger plan to bring "the lion's share to me."


SINGLE ISSUES

In Self-Defense by A.B. Frost (Cartoon on Civil Rights)



After the Civil War, white Southerners complained that the civil rights movement was a threat to their interests and that they were being unfairly denied suffrage. These calls became especially tense as newly Reconstructed states started electing African American leaders for state and federal office. Arguing that they would be subjected to "black rule," many former Confederates attacked and terrorized black communities. The above cartoon appeared several weeks before the election.

Woman's Rights by H. H. Lloyd (Cartoon on Women's Suffrage)



As the 1800s progressed, the women's suffrage movement became an increasingly prominent part of American life, with many women trying to become politically-active. These attempts were harshly criticized and ridiculed by elites on both sides of the aisle, who thought that women already had their say at the ballot box through their husbands. The above cartoon illustrates this attitude, with a police officer unfairly forcing a voter to vote in accordance with his wife's views.

The Ignorant Vote... by Thomas Nast (Cartoon on Immigration)



After the Civil War, Democrats would frequently accuse the Republican Party of establishing an oligarchy on the backs of newly-freed, largely uneducated African Americans. Republicans would shoot back by criticizing the Democratic Party's support of immigration and their support of America's large Catholic minorities. If the Republicans were benefiting from "low-information voters," then so were the Democrats. Nast would frequently belittle Catholic immigrants as ape-like, barely human beings. He thought Catholicism was a corrosive influence on American society and urged American politicians to restrict immigration from predominately Catholic countries to avoid the destruction of American values.

got some chores tonight
Feb 18, 2012

honk honk whats for lunch...
what is the chinese puzzle to which nast refers in the first cartoon

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

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dongsbot 9000 posted:

what is the chinese puzzle to which nast refers in the first cartoon

The Republican platform included a promise to, "investigate the immigration and importation of Mongolians on the moral and material interests of the country." In 1882, the Republican-controlled Congress will pass the Chinese Exclusion Act.

QuoProQuid has issued a correction as of 16:34 on May 6, 2016

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

dongsbot 9000 posted:

what is the chinese puzzle to which nast refers in the first cartoon

Probably just referring to the controversy over Chinese immigrants in California. They were initially brought over to work on the transcontinental railroad, but once that was done, they moved on mostly to other low-paying jobs. By this point, over 100,000 Chinese immigrants were living in the US, mostly in California, and a lot of working class Californians were pissed that the Chinese were "taking their jobs."

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

There's nothing new under the sun.

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

dongsbot 9000 posted:

what is the chinese puzzle to which nast refers in the first cartoon

The ancient chinese puzzle box containing the trapped and vengeful soul of William Tecumseh Sherman, obviously.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

QuoProQuid posted:

Goin' to St. Louis by George Colt



Colt satirizes the different factions within the Democratic Party. Front and center, the Democrats are led by an urban Tweed-esque political boss., clothed in a mix of a suit, jail attire, and reformist chains. Though Tilden supposedly crushed the power of the old political clubs, Colt believes that the Democrats just got better at hiding their corruption. The political boss is dragging a "Rag Baby," a common symbol for soft-money reformers, behind him. The boss is also flanked by the Catholic Church, which Hayes opposed, and the Ku-Klux-Klan, whose lawless brutality was frequently condemned by Republicans. In the rear is Tammany Hall, dressed as a Native American. Throughout the period, the Native Americans were portrayed as lawless brutes who would slaughter good Americans if given the chance. Colt is suggesting that the Democrats will butcher "real Americans" if Tilden is given a chance in office.


Why is the Tammany Hall figure being rolled in on a platform by an unseen striped character? Is this meant to indicate it's fake?

Ibogaine
Aug 11, 2015

Discendo Vox posted:

Why is the Tammany Hall figure being rolled in on a platform by an unseen striped character? Is this meant to indicate it's fake?

The Tammany Hall figure says "Reform Tammany". I think it means that the Democrats' fight against corruption was just a false front.

Ibogaine has issued a correction as of 00:32 on May 7, 2016

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
sorry, I actually found out by going to the source site- it's meant to indicate its semblance to a dime store indian statue.

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

i imagine it's also a reference to the foundational history of tammany hall, which was named after an indian chief
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamanend
sort of interesting that 19th century white america gave birth to societies devoted to the memory of an indian chief termed 'the patron saint of america' and that one of them evolved into the most notoriously powerful political machine in american history, interesting minor shade to the general story of bigotry and genocide

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
I get Trojan Horse vibes from the Indian on wheels.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

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Thank you for voting. I have just received words on the wire from Washington that Peter Cooper has become President of These United States. Please, let me be the first to congratulate His Elective Majesty on his historic victory. Not only will he become the oldest Executive in our Republic’s history, but he will also be the first private citizen to become President since Amos Ellmaker in 1834. Let us hope that Cooper, with his long history of innovation, can help guide our nation towards progress.

Mr. Cooper will, of course, be assisted by his friend Samuel Fenton Cary. Cary’s reformist attitudes and strong belief in technological innovation will surely be a boon to the Vice-Presidency (which has recently seen significant turnover.)

And, lastly, let us thank Mr. Alexander Graham Bell for making this news possible through his astonishing invention, which he calls the telephone. I am sure that there are great things in store for Mr. Bell.

MOST POPULAR TICKET:

Peter Cooper / Samuel Fenton Cary (Greenback) - 71 votes (78.0%)
Rutherford B. Hayes / William A. Wheeler (Republican) - 11 votes (12.1%)
Green Clay Smith / Gideon T.Stewart (Prohibition) - 7 votes (7.7%)
Samuel J. Tilden / Thomas A.Hendricks (Democratic) - 2 votes (2.2%)
TOTAL: 91 votes

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

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ELECTION OF 1880

:siren: Click here to vote in the Election of 1880!



Background:

In the aftermath of the election of 1876, the country became more divided than ever, with culture overtaking ideology as the main source of party identification. Northerners voted Republican and Southerners voted Democratic. With the end of Reconstruction and the end of civil rights as a major divisive issue, people increasingly came to vote based on personality rathern than politics. And the two parties have obliged by becoming almost identical in their platforms.

Only two serious issues seriously divide the nation: tariff reform and the gold standard. For the former, Republicans have vocally supported the use of tariffs to support American business against foreign encroachment whereas Democrats fear that excessive tariffs are making basic goods too expensive. On the latter issue, monetary policy has divided people within the same political party. Though Democratic and Republican elites are strong supporters of the gold standard, factions within each are increasingly vocal about the need for soft-money policies to produce inflation. Frustration with the major parties over money issues has led to the growth of a new third party, the Greenbacks.


REPUBLICAN PARTY NOMINEES:


Presidential Nominee: James A. Garfield
  • Party Affiliation: Republican Party
  • Home State: Ohio
  • Notable Positions:
  • Biography: James Garfield was born the youngest of five children on the outskirts of Ohio. One of the poorest men to ever seek the presidency, Garfield supported himself as a part-time teacher, a carpenter, and a janitor through college. After graduating from Williams College, Garfield decided to pursue law and, in 1861, passed the Ohio bar exam and joined the Ohio Legislature. There, Garfield earned a reputation as a loyal Unionist and a passionate defender of the Republican Party. His achievements would come to help in earn a seat in the House of Representatives without campaigning. As a Congressman, Garfield distinguished himself as a “Gold Bug” Republican, a proponent of “hard-money” reforms. He would come to regret this position following the economic collapse of 1873. After his implication in the Credit Mobilier scandal, Garfield shifted his stance on civil service reform and became a steadfast advocate of Rutherford B. Hayes’s civil service reforms. He has since earned a reputation for bridging together disparate factions.
  • Platform: Since the end of Reconstruction, the two parties have moved increasingly close together. This fact is especially evident with the nomination of James A. Garfield, a Unionist war hero with a reputation for honesty who supported Reconstruction.Like his opponent, Garfield is sympathetic to hte plight of American workers and supports bimetallism, believing that a fixed silver standard system will increase inflation and help workers pay off their debts. Also like his opponent, Garfield has been incensed by the disappointing civil service reforms of the Hayes Administration. He hopes to make patronage a federal crime and wants to institute term limits on minor Executive posts to reduce the branch’s problem with rampant corruption. The only political belief really separating Garfield and Hancock are their views on tariffs. Unlike Hancock, Garfield believes that tariffs should be used to both increase government revenue and protect American industry. Hancock has used this view to paint Garfield as unsympathetic to American consumers. As a Republican, James Garfield is a fierce opponent to Jim Crow laws across the South and a proponent of black suffrage. However, he was ill at ease with some of his allies, who seemed to want military occupation to remain in place forever. Garfield disliked the radical attempts to suspend habeas corpus and other civil liberties across the South and opposed the Ku Klux Klan Act for giving the Executive excessive authority to track down terrorists. Garfield believes that the United States should increase its relations with Latin America and support the development of the new republics there. He is particularly interested in constructing a canal in Central America, but is not yet sure of the details.


Vice-Presidential Nominee: Chester A. Arthur
  • Party Affiliation: Republican Party
  • Home State: New York
  • Notable Positions:
  • Biography: Chester Alan Arthur was born in 1829 in a small log cabin as the fifth of eight children to Reverend William Arthur, a passionate abolitionist, and Malvina Arthur. Though he was a lazy student, Arthur had aspirations at an early age of entering the public service and used his father’s connections to pursue that goal. In 1854, he gained a clerkship in a New York law firm under abolitionist Erastus D. Culver, who would later achieve fame by supporting the claims of slaves against their former masters. Arthur spent much of his time handling this case and, although the New York Supreme Court ruled against him, Arthur gained connections with prominent legal minds across the state. Arthur’s involvement in the case of Elizabeth Jennings, who had been forced out of a white section of a streetcar, earned him praise and distinction among New York’s abolitionist community, praise which only heightened after Arthur enlisted in the Union Army for the Civil War. After the war, Arthur became extremely wealthy defending his former compatriots in civil suits for war-related damages. The war also allowed him to secure an appointment as the Collector of the Port of New York. Though he was given a hefty salary, Arthur routinely collected kickbacks and bribes for his services. Following the inauguration of Hayes, however, Arthur tried to shake his reputation as the former tried to have him removed from office.
  • Platform: Chester A. Arthur is a moderate technocrat, capable of managing the extensive federal bureaucracy to help Garfield fulfill his platform. With his involvement in corruption, he is also capable of sorting out pork-barrel proposals from real proposals. Arthur considers the two largest issues in American politics to be corruption and improving economic conditions. For the former, Arthur has expressed full commitment to Garfield’s proposals banning salary kickbacks. He also hopes to transform the civil service from a patronage-based system to one based on merit, with advancement explicitly based on examinations. For the latter, Arthur has broken with Republican orthodoxy and believes that it is necessary to lower tariffs to kick start the economy. He believes that protectionist policies only reduce consumer welfare and harm national growth. Arthur has a history defending former slaves and is concerned about civil rights. Unlike any other candidate, he does not feel threatened by Chinese immigration and considers it a likely benefit to the American economy.


DEMOCRATIC PARTY NOMINEES:


Presidential Nominee: Winfield S. Hancock
  • Party Affiliation: Democratic Party
  • Home State: Pennsylvania
  • Notable Positions: Military Governor of the Fifth Military District, Major General in the Union Army
  • Biography: William Hancock is a general best known for his bravery at Gettysburg. A twin born in Montgomery Square, Pennsylvania, Hancock was an active part of his local community. In the 1840s, Hancock’s reputation helped him secure admission to West Point, where he graduated 18h in his class of 25 and was assigned to infantry. This position allowed Scott to participate in the Mexican-American War, where he proved adept at recruiting soldiers and leading men into battle. He participated in the occupation of Mexico City, the last military action he would see until the Civil War. In the American Civil War, Hancock earned himself the nickname “superb” for leading a critical counterattack in the Battle of Williamsburg. He continued his excellent service and led a major drive during the Battle of Gettysburg. After the war, Hancock was granted control of the Fifth Military District, a military occupation covering Texas and Louisiana. Though imbued with substantial powers, Hancock earned the ire and respect of his superiors for refusing to use military force on a frequent basis. Rather, he saw his role as to encourage the reestablishment of civil government in “natural and rightful dominion.” Hancock is widely respected across the North and well -liked across the South for his leniency
  • Platform: With the end of Reconstruction, the Democratic and Republican parties have increasingly come to resemble one another. This fact is especially evident in the nomination of Winfield S. Hancock, a Unionist war hero with a reputation for honesty that participated in the military Reconstruction of the South. Like his main opponent, Hancock favors “soft-money” and bimetallism to help the poor farmers of the West. After the disappointing reforms of Hayes, Hancock also promotes extensive civil service reform and wants to make patronage a federal crime. Unlike the Republicans, however, Hancock draws parallels between rampant corruption and the “Great Fraud of 1876-1877, by which, upon a false count of the electoral votes, the candidate defeated at the polls was declared to be President.” If elected, Hancock promises a major investigation into the disputed election to determine the actual victor. Also unlike his opponent, Hancock believes that tariffs are ultimately harmful to the American consumer and only supports them to improve government revenue. This view has allowed the Republicans to paint Hancock as unsympathetic to Northern labor and harmed his position among industrialists. Hancock participated in Reconstruction and is believed to be sympathetic to the plight of blacks across the South. However, he believes that “the military power should cease to lead, and the civil administration[s of the South] should resume [their] natural and rightful dominion.” These views earned him the scorn of Radical Republicans who believed he was inviting Confederates back into the fold. As military governor, he refused to overturn elections and court verdicts while stamping down on Confederate terrorism. He opposes immigration from China and believes that American values in the West are under threat by the Chinese invasion. Hancock is, however, interested in improving America’s ties with Latin America. He believes that the region is ripe for American investment.


Vice-Presidential Nominee: William H. English
  • Party Affiliation: Democratic Party
  • Home State: Indiana
  • Notable Positions: United States Representative from Indiana, Speaker of the Indiana House of Representatives, Member of the Indiana House of Representatives
  • Biography: William Hayden English was born in Lexington, Indiana as the only son of Elisha and Mahala English, Kentucky slaveholders who hoped to take advantage of the new land grants out West. Following his father’s example, William became embedded in politics at an early age and opened a law firm in his hometown of Scott County. In 1842, English accepted a mentorship under Governor Jesse Bright, who was a member of the same Democratic Party faction as then-President Polk. As a reward for Bright’s service, English gained a “special” appointment as a clerk in the Treasury Department, a position which he served for four years before being purged by Zachary Taylor, who loathed his predecessor’s patronage. Returning home, English was to catapult his federal experience into a viable career in state politics. In August 1851, he became a member of Indiana’s House of Representatives and, later, its speaker. In 1853, he joined the U.S. Congress where he tried to build compromise between the North and South. Seeing his efforts in vain, English declined to run for office in 1860 and instead focused on his business career where he chartered Indiana’s largest bank. Though the Panic of 1873 has adversely affected his wealth, it has allowed him to slowly buy up large portions of downtown Indianapolis at a cheap price. As such, English is well-known statewide.
  • Platform: English is a member of the conservative faction of the Democratic Party and has consistently defended traditional Democratic values like states rights. In 1851, English worked to ensure that the Indiana Constitution restricted suffrage to white men at the expense of freedmen. He later promoted the doctrine of popular sovereignty in the Kansas-Nebraska Act, though he expressed reservations about its implementation. More recently, English has made a name for himself as an advocate of the gold standard and believes strong “hard-money” policies are needed to promote financial stability. He opposes tariffs for anything but revenue purposes. English is a major advocate of civil service reform and believes that the Republicans are too compromised as an institution to promote good governance.


GREENBACK PARTY NOMINEES:


Presidential Nominee: James B. Weaver
  • Party Affiliation: Greenback Party
  • Home State: Iowa
  • Notable Positions: United States Representative from Iowa, Brevet Birigadier-General in the Union Army
  • Biography: James B. Weaver is an agrarian activist and radical. Born in Ohio, Weaver’s family took advantage of the Homestead Act to move out to the Iowa Territory. While initially happy with their new land, Weaver’s family became increasingly unhappy by wealthy landowners who seized land around them. Over the next few yeears, Weaver took several different professions to protect himself. He read law. He drove cattle from Iowa to Sacramento, California. He prospected gold, sailed to Panama, and ran a small store. By 1856, Weaver’s experiences led him to reject slavery and he joined the newly formed Republican Party. Known for his adventurism, Weaver became a staple of Iowa’s Republican Party and frequently gave speeches across the state in support of anti-slavery Republicans. Naturally, after the Confederate attack on Fort Sumter, Weaver enlisted in the Union Army and participated in major battles at Shiloh and Corinth as well as Major General Sherman’s March Through Georgia. After the war’s end, Weaver gained several minor positions in the federal government before receiving the Republican nomination for Congress. After his loss and the Panic of 1873, Weaver grew disenchanted with the Republicans and joined the Greenbacks. He is currently one of the few third-party Congressmen.
  • Platform: As one might expect from the nominee of the Greenback Party, Weaver’s central commitment is the passage of so-called “soft-money” reforms. In the Greenback conception of things, these reforms would move the United States off of the gold standard and towards a credit-based, government-issued paper currency system. Weaver points to the success of the Greenbacks during the Civil War as a sign that his proposal is realistic. Hoping to expand the party base and become a major player in future elections, Weaver has adopted an extensive reformist platform intended to appeal to workers and farmers. Weaver supports an eight-hour work day that is protected by national and state authorities, as well as safe work environments for all workers. Weaver has decried the horrendous working conditions of most of the poor and the growing number of children involved in manufacturies. He thinks that child labor should be prohibited. Further, Weaver considers it the duty of Congress to protect American consumers from monopolies and corporations. As can be seen in the growing influence of the railroads across the West, Congress must be willing to step in when private companies become too powerful. This regulatory environment can be supported by the reintroduction of an income tax. Weaver supports women’s suffrage and believes that all people, except felons, should be fully enfranchised. He does not, however, support Chinese immigration and believes that their importation is degrading and brutalizing American labor. Weaver supports the prohibition of alcohol.


Vice-Presidential Nominee: Barzillai J. Chambers
  • Party Affiliation: Greenback Party
  • Home State: Texas
  • Notable Positions: Largest landowner in Johnson County, Texas
  • Biography: Barzillai Jefferson Chambers is a pioneer and politician, noted for his radical populist views. The son of Walker and Talitha Cumi Chambers, Kentucky farmers, Barzillai spent the first twenty years of his life doing intense farm work. Bored of farm life, Chambers followed his uncle into Texas and helped the latter form a militia in support of the Texas Revolution. After the revolution and the state’s subsequent annexation, Chambers became the deputy surveyor for north central Texas and helped promote American settlement between the Brazos and Trinity Rivers. His success is surveying (and success in escaping Indian attacks) allowed him to accumulate massive tracts of land. Like many wealthy landowners, Chambers opposed Abraham Lincoln and supported Southern secession during the Civil War. He has since spent his time promoting railroad development and pushing against the 1875 Constitution for its protection of the debtor class.
  • Platform: Chambers represents the western farmer wing of the Greenback alliance, which emphasizes personal independence and independence from the two parties. A Southern Democrat who opposed the expansionary powers of the federal government, Chambers first gained prominence for his editorials opposing an interest-bearing national debt. According to Chambers, the Federal Reserve and its policies prevented inflation, which is necessary to reduce the debts of poor farmers in the West. As such, he opposes government intervention in banking and has urged the government to create “a sufficient amount of paper money, making it equal to gold and silver and full legal tender for all debts.” The banks, Chambers believes, are the source of America’s problems. Chambers has also spoken substantially about reforming the settlement process, believing that it unfairly benefits creditors at the expense of the poor. Though he is not a socialist himself, Chambers has fought constantly to protect the rights of socialists within the Greenback Party and within Texas itself and considers their beliefs as valid as anyone else’s. He does not support the black civil rights movement and supported the Confederacy.


PROHIBITION PARTY NOMINEES:


Presidential Nominee: Neal Dow
  • Party Affiliation: Prohibition Party
  • Home State: Maine
  • Notable Positions: Mayor of Portland, Brigadier-General in the Union Army, Founder of the Maine Temperance Union
  • Biography: As the so-called “Napoleon of Temperance” and “Father of Prohibition,” Neal Dow is either a saint or an embarrassment to the entire state of Maine. Born in Portland to a pair of devour Quakers, Dow was involved in activism and volunteer work from an early age. As a teenager, he served as a volunteer firefighter and gained notice among locals as one of the few firemen not constantly drunk. In his early twenties, he became so concerned over the growing presence of alcohol in the American diet that he helped form the Maine Temperance Society before splitting off to form the Maine Temperance Union over the question of temperance versus abstinence . Dow favored the latter. Using his social connections, Dow was elected as Mayor of Portland in 1851 and single-handedly secured the passage of legislation that would ban alcohol statewide. Though many expected the Governor to veto the law, Dow succeeded in soothing and cajoling the Governor into letting the law stand, making Maine the first state to prohibit alcohol. After losing re-election, partly over the prohibition, and a disastrous riot that caused Dow to be prosecuted under the Maine law, Dow joined the Union Army, where he participated in the capture of New Orleans and the Siege of Port Hudson. Since the war’s end, Dow has worked to transform prohibition from a quirky fad in New England to a nationwide experiment.
  • Platform: Given his personal history and party, it should be no surprise that Dow’s primary concern is to ensure that the production and distribution of alcohol is stopped immediately. Dow believes that alcohol leads to the degradation of morals and is a poison that “paralyzes thrift, industry, manufacture, and commercial life.” Dow has called Congress to pass an act similar to the Maine law, which prohibited all alcoholic beverages except for “medicinal, mechanical, or manufacturing purposes,” if not an outright amendment to the Constitution. Though Dow is an ardent believer in black equality and known to have been part of the Underground Railroad, the party has chosen to focus solely on the issue of temperance and prohibition. Given how the two parties have ignored prohibition, it is necessary for the Prohibition Party to spend all their time and effort raising awareness of teetotalism.


Vice-Presidential Nominee: Henry A. Thompson
  • Party Affiliation: Prohibition Party
  • Home State: Ohio
  • Notable Positions: President of Otterbein University
  • Biography: Henry Thompson is an activist and intellectual with extensive experience in financial management. Born in 1837 to anti-slavery and temperance activist John Thompson. John Thompson served as county sheriff of Chester County,Pennsylvania, an experience that exposed both him and his son to a variety of social ills. In 1854, Thompson attended Jefferson College to study theology and became deeply embedded in the college’s pietist community, a radical Christian sect that emphasizes personal piety above all else. In 1862, Thompson began applying his religious beliefs through his teaching career. He taught at Otterbein University and later became superintendedent of schools in Troy, Ohio. In 1872, Thompson returned to Otterbein to become its President, a position that he unfortunately took immediately before the Panic of 1873. As such, Thompson has spent much of his tenure trying to keep the school afloat via fundraising. He gives speeches around the country on the importance of education and abstinence from alcohol.
  • Platform: Thompson is a member of the Pietist movement, a Christian movement that emphasizes indivudual piety in accordance with the Bible. This moral code has led Thompson to the same conclusions as his running-mate regarding alcohol, that it undermines society by laxening moral standards and inviting vice. He ses alcohol as responsible for the ongoing economic crisis and has agitated for prohibition nationwide. He sees a constitutional amendment as the best way to achieve total and permanent prohibition. Thompson has declined to elaborate on his other views, though he is a former Republican.

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
a pity the greenback party never took off outside of goontime

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
Weaver's policies sound good, but this Barzillai fellow being a heartbeat away from the presidency is sure to give goons some pause.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

Pakled posted:

Weaver's policies sound good, but this Barzillai fellow being a heartbeat away from the presidency is sure to give goons some pause.

I am sure that all the candidates up for election will live long and very healthy lives. Surely, our country has learned its lesson after Lincoln and has invested in better security for the president.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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WEAVER!

gently replaces receiver on hook

Garfield’s position on Chinese immigration is tempting, though.

It’s amusing to imagine how a telephone survey would work in the days of manual switchboards.

quote:

George W. Coy designed and built the first commercial US telephone exchange which opened in New Haven, Connecticut in January, 1878. The switchboard was built from "carriage bolts, handles from teapot lids and bustle wire" and could handle two simultaneous conversations.

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Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
If you vote for Garfield, you vote to kill a man.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

GARFIELD!!!!!!!

It's weird - because of our after the fact knowledge and Garfield's unfortunate demise (too much Lasagna) we're really looking at Chester A. Arthur in a way we don't usually consider VPs.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
As I cannot in good conscience suffer a confederate to live, let alone take one of the offices held by the Father of the Nation John Adams. Also, James Garfield is probably my Congressman, so there's no way I can vote against that much of a hometown hero, and his policies aren't terrible!

edit: Charles Guiteau sounds like a giant rear end in a top hat.

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Guiteau chose a pearl‐handle revolver because he thought it would look good in a museum.

The Smithsonian Institution took possession of it and put it on display, but lost it some time in the early twentieth century.

I like to imagine that it in the director’s desk, and only the current director and his two living predecessors are aware of this plot to foil Guiteau’s last wishes.

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