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Doctor Spaceman posted:In practical terms if the ALP wins government then SSM could almost certainly pass parliament; there are very, very few people left in the Labor caucus who don't support it. That's cool. About time!
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# ? May 5, 2016 15:17 |
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Mad Katter posted:That's cool. About time! Yup. Either way, we should have marriage equality by the end of the year. One way will have a nasty public campaign, but will still result in a yes vote.
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EvilElmo posted:Yup. Either way, we should have marriage equality by the end of the year. One way will have a nasty public campaign, but will still result in a yes vote. There'd be nothing binding about the plebiscite though.
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# ? May 5, 2016 15:25 |
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Mad Katter posted:There'd be nothing binding about the plebiscite though. Even a drooling moron like tony wouldn't ignore a 70%+ public vote, it'd be the kind of suicide that would be used in textbooks
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# ? May 5, 2016 15:48 |
norp posted:Even a drooling moron like tony wouldn't ignore a 70%+ public vote, it'd be the kind of suicide that would be used in textbooks http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jan/27/eric-abetz-coalition-mps-will-not-be-bound-by-plebiscite-on-marriage-equality posted:The prominent conservative senator Eric Abetz says every Coalition MP will be free to decide how to cast their parliamentary vote on same-sex marriage, contradicting the prime minister and, according to the marriage equality lobby, rendering the promised $160m national plebiscite pointless.
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# ? May 5, 2016 15:51 |
norp posted:Even a drooling moron like tony wouldn't ignore a 70%+ public vote, it'd be the kind of suicide that would be used in textbooks Plus the whole concept of the plebiscite is just there to make it look like they'll do something while giving their buddies one last great chance to bash the poo poo out of lgbt folks all over the major media.
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I made a lovely info-graphic-thing telling people to go enroll. http://imgur.com/gallery/CN9Ie I just copied a reddit post someone made vOv
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# ? May 5, 2016 16:04 |
drunkill posted:I made a lovely info-graphic-thing telling people to go enroll. I like it! In fact, I just asked my kid brother if he was enrolled to vote. He turned 18 this year, maybe he'll be a greenie like his big sister. Also, am I the only one really concerned by this: bigis posted:Possible changes to HECS from the budget:
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# ? May 5, 2016 16:31 |
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So I listened to the entirety of Bill Shorten's budget reply, it seems like the Tin Man grew a heart, we can only hope that the rest of the ALP will grow a spine. Actually laid poo poo out, committed to clear, good goals and hammered the LNP on it's weak-points and gaffes. I really hope EvilElmo, that you and your mates in the ALP have been noticing what has been happening around the word, that actually coming out swinging against conservatives is a way to win. In a sense, I feel like Daniel Andrews was a prototype of the method that they are hopefully going to employ, going by this speech. Act with clear goals, conviction and with confidence. It's been a great thing to see on my facebook feed the posts from Mr Andrews every so often just utterly nailing something. quote:"We're not winding back Safe Schools. End of story." It's just like Trudeau's response to "why are you going to have so many women in your cabinet?" with "It's 2016". It's refreshing to see simple truths and commitments being made. Bill even brought that to the table here with "We're going to have marriage equality in 100 days". So EvilElmo, I hope you are screaming at the top of your lungs to the rest of your party on how they can really win this, because if the ALP can win on the basis of good policies and good politics, auspol might start repecting your party again.
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Xerxes17 posted:I really hope EvilElmo, that you and your mates in the ALP have been noticing what has been happening around the word, that actually coming out swinging against conservatives is a way to win. Maybe you should have been paying closer attention? Clinton's still probably going to win Greenailure!
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Maybe you should have been paying closer attention? "a" not "the"
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# ? May 5, 2016 19:54 |
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drunkill posted:I made a lovely info-graphic-thing telling people to go enroll. British subjects can vote? E: I didn't know there was only a week left, thanks for posting this, I'm enrolling now Serrath fucked around with this message at 00:17 on May 6, 2016 |
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Jumpingmanjim posted:https://twitter.com/7NewsSydney/status/728135304058540033 This is normal. The LNP like framing themselves as the underdog at elections.
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# ? May 6, 2016 00:13 |
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quote:Exclusive Norfolk Islanders propose hosting processing centre for asylum seekers Rape Island + Refugee Island. Two great flavours in one.
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# ? May 6, 2016 00:24 |
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tithin posted:It would be up to each member to decide whether the plebiscite accurately reflects the views of the Australian people, whether it reflects the views of their electorates and whether it is good or bad public policy in their view. Abetz is such a piece of poo poo
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# ? May 6, 2016 00:36 |
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We all boat down here
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# ? May 6, 2016 00:39 |
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Plebiscite or referendum are both bad. It shouldn't be up to the majority to decide whether minorities can get the same rights and treatment. It should be up to the government to push equality for all it's citizens.
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# ? May 6, 2016 00:42 |
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katlington posted:Abetz is such a piece of poo poo All he is highlighting is how stupid and absurd a plebiscite is.
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# ? May 6, 2016 00:44 |
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# ? May 6, 2016 00:45 |
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Ten Year Cost of the Company Tax Cut is 48.2 Billion. Schroedinger's costing was a better line.
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# ? May 6, 2016 01:04 |
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Any losses will be offset by the extremely rapid growth in investment that will be prompted by the lower tax rates.
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# ? May 6, 2016 01:16 |
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Dan Didio posted:Ten Year Cost of the Company Tax Cut is 48.2 Billion. Eh, you can't even buy a dozen subs for that.
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# ? May 6, 2016 01:21 |
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open24hours posted:Any losses will be offset by the extremely rapid growth in investment that will be prompted by the lower tax rates.
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# ? May 6, 2016 01:22 |
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open24hours posted:Any losses will be offset by the extremely rapid growth in investment that will be prompted by the lower tax rates. Not sure if you are being serious, but I think the modelling has taken into account the extra .1% growth in GDP per 1% of company tax cut.
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# ? May 6, 2016 01:23 |
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Eh, you can't even buy a dozen subs for that. Just fibre to the premises
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# ? May 6, 2016 01:24 |
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So I'm guessing the budget is already blowing up in their face?
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# ? May 6, 2016 01:27 |
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Freudian Slip posted:Just fibre to the premises They're going to need a lot more fibre to push this budget out
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# ? May 6, 2016 01:34 |
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Michael Pascoe (Fairfax) posted:"Trend" real GDP growth has been downgraded to 2.75 per cent. The Treasury forecasts we'll hit 3 per cent growth in 2017-18, mainly thanks to the dive in resources investment bottoming out. The 3 per cent figure "projection" beyond that air guitar.
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Amoeba102 posted:Plebiscite or referendum are both bad. It shouldn't be up to the majority to decide whether minorities can get the same rights and treatment. It should be up to the government to push equality for all it's citizens. Ok but this is a completely impractical position.
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# ? May 6, 2016 01:37 |
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Skellybones posted:They're going to need a lot more fibre to push this budget out Fibre to the load.
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# ? May 6, 2016 01:38 |
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That just goes to show how badly Labor ruined the economy.
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# ? May 6, 2016 01:40 |
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Shorten's budget reply speech is actually very strong. He went on 7.30 and was actually able to answer all of Leigh Sales questions. He's competent. It's just a shame he isn't more charismatic.
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# ? May 6, 2016 01:47 |
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thatbastardken posted:kind of lazy Can we get all the trolls probated for a week or so? Just as an experiment to see if it cuts pages of useless burble off the thread. Not really a budget issue but the two biggest 'problems' in Australian politics are the undue influence of two media players and the nature of political donations. We are sleepwalking into decades of bland governance if those two issues aren't addressed for this coming election. Bland governance will mean: Continued division between the haves and the have nots, No significant tax reform (increasing the GST isn't a reform), The accelerating degradation of our natural environment, insufficient action on climate change and a whole bunch of the other symptoms of having an oligarchy steered from beyond sight by vested interests. To continue engagement with Asia chat. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-06/singapore-to-expand-queensland-defence-bases/7389168 quote:Malcolm Turnbull to announce $2.25b deal to host 14,000 Singaporean defence troops in Queensland By political reporter Eliza Borrello Updated about 3 hours ago Another failure to integrate quote:From South Sudanese refugee to Olympic sprinter Thursday 5 May 2016 9:15AMClaire Nichols Or perhaps the old ways are best: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-06/at-least-28-dead-in-air-strike-on-syria-refugee-camp-near-turkey/7389256 quote:Syria war: At least 28 dead in air strikes on Syrian refugee camp near Turkey: human rights monitor Updated about an hour ago Which brings me to a topic that I touched on yesterday. The Death Penalty and where do we actually stand on it. http://www.smh.com.au/comment/smh-editorial/head-20160422-god4j2.html quote:Australia should do more to stamp out capital punishment April 24, 2016 EDITORIAL You can't have it both ways. Either the taking of life by the state is an ideological abomination and every effort must be made to remove it from our society, or you can be be 'gladdened' by the act. The whole issue of war isn't entirely insignificant in this but so called 'targeted' killings are nothing less than assassinations. What exactly Shadi did to deserve the ultimate penalty is left as an exercise for the reader. She wasn't smuggling commercial amounts of drugs. Perhaps we should consider these issues before we get too cozy with anyone's military (for example US, China or SIngapore).
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# ? May 6, 2016 02:04 |
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Looks like Tim Nickers has the leadership. Only contender who fronted the media. Springboard and others went through a secret door.
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# ? May 6, 2016 02:18 |
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Zenithe posted:All he is highlighting is how stupid and absurd a plebiscite is. No hes saying is he'll ignore the results and vote how he wants regardless because warren entsh would still want equal rights. Hes a pos
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# ? May 6, 2016 02:42 |
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L M A O M A O
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# ? May 6, 2016 02:49 |
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TIm Nicholls wins 22 to 19
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First round: Mander 10, Springborg 17, Nicholls 14.
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