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Dred Cosmonaut
Jan 6, 2010

There once was a tiger-striped cat.
I'm going to loving shoot my self if I hear that awful musical sting for Ricky gervais's new garbage show again

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A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

Ricky Gervais is terrible and I don't understand why people find him entertaining

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.
i like a ton of gervais's stuff, but his films are not any of them

Foreign Correspondents is just comedy death - it's so horrendously, uncompromisingly, completely and totally poo poo.

Cemetry Gator
Apr 3, 2007

Do you find something comical about my appearance when I'm driving my automobile?

A MIRACLE posted:

Ricky Gervais is terrible and I don't understand why people find him entertaining

He was really good in the Office and Extras. He's insufferable when he's convinced of his genius and just looking to show you how great and talented he is and that you should totally like him.

Honestly, the Invention of Lying may be one of the worst films I've ever seen. It takes a really clever concept that if pulled off, could be hilarious, and squanders it. It gives us a society where everybody can only tell the truth, which means that people are just absolutely terrible to each other because apparently, in this world, nobody has a filter either. Just got to say everything.

And then it decides that it wants to be a religious satire, because after inventing lying, he invents God. And then the rest of the film is dedicated to basically just being "Hahaha, God is a lie. You believe in an invisible man in the sky."

But it never really goes beyond that. It's just content to say "God is a lie, sky wizard, lol" and think that's enough.

The problem is he wants to do daring work like Monty Python did with stuff like Life of Brian. But the key distinction was that Monty Python understood what they were satirizing and writing about. His movie came across mean spirited because he clearly didn't have an appreciation for why people might believe that there is a god, nor did he have anything to say beyond "It's a lie!" Where as Python were making fun of political groups, how people practice religion, how people miss the point and hear what they want to hear, and even find a way to make crucifixion funny.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax

A MIRACLE posted:

Ricky Gervais is terrible and I don't understand why people find him entertaining

He's like Atheism's equivalent of one of those mildly successful television actors who winds up crucifying their career by becoming crazy born-again Christians and appearing a bunch of lovely Cleanflix movies.

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.
it's not so much the anti-theism of The Invention of Lying as it is the fact that the movie's melodramatic plot circles around the notion that, basically, a world in which everybody tells the truth is the world we already have, but the truth is that the world is full of idiotic notions we take as 'truths' merely because 'that's what the man in the sky wants' or 'because that's what history says' or 'because that's what my parents say.'

where it fucks up is by analogizing a fat, unsuccessful, self-professed loser and liar not being able to get a hot girlfriend because of nazism. it's just delusional narcissism that of course criticizes religion, but doesn't actually have the balls to also criticize vapid, vague notions of 'spiritualism' or 'everybody's beautiful' and that crap, since that's actually much closer to what gervais espouses. it's like Dogma.

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

A MIRACLE posted:

Ricky Gervais is terrible and I don't understand why people find him entertaining

I think his podcasts with Stephen Merchant and Karl Pilkington are hilarious, same with their subsequent adaptation on HBO.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Gotta nuke something
I didn't mind The Invention of Lying too much, but it had such a weird turn of events in the end. The whole movie I'm thinking clearly Gervais will come to his senses so to speak and realize that his dream girl, Jennifer Garner, is a total oval office, and that he deserves better than her. But nope, it ends with "HA HA, NOPE, I married this giant oval office of a woman! I WIN!"

I mean, really?

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

Guy Mann posted:

He's like Atheism's equivalent of one of those mildly successful television actors who winds up crucifying their career by becoming crazy born-again Christians and appearing a bunch of lovely Cleanflix movies.
Yeah look how Bill Maher's career went to poo poo

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.

On the subject of cancelled HBO shows to finally get around to watching, I just started watching Hung and reading the synopsis makes it sound like it's going to be really dirty ala Californication but it's not. I'm 4 episodes in and so far it's a fairly charming show, although maybe a little predictable and cliche. I mean, there is talk of rear end in a top hat licking and big dicks, but it's not all T&A like I assumed it would be.

Streaming free on Amazon prime.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
I love Thomas Jane's ugly rear end kids in that show.

Accident Underwater
Oct 21, 2005

You look like a star!
Finished The Fall season 2. Last episode was intense. Both seasons are great and hit a lot of different notes.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
If you are into american industrial history, environmental issues, native american rights, eating salmon, or good documentaries, you should check out DamNation https://www.netflix.com/title/70305212 on netflix or hulu etc.. Did you know there are 75,000 dams in the US, half of which were built in a 20 year period, and around 1/3 of which that are illegally constructed, dangerously undermaintained, poorly constructed, or a mix of the three?

I watched this one because I was doing a research project to write and encourage Congress to act to vote to pass some dam removals which I'm personally close to, but it's a really interesting documentary, and it also has some bitchin graffiti artists, and one of the most stomach-dropping guerilla film footage bits I've seen, from a guy who sneaks near a dam removal blasting area to film the thing being blown to bits. Talk about demolition porn! :aaaaa:

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Accident Underwater posted:

Finished The Fall season 2. Last episode was intense. Both seasons are great and hit a lot of different notes.

I really enjoyed it too. I want a third season almost as much as I want season 3 of Peaky Blinders.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

NESguerilla posted:

Speaking of HBO, I signed up for Now and wouldn't mind starting a new series from my bucket list.

Some I haven't seen.

Six feet Under
Carnivale
Treme
Rome
Oz
generation Kill
True Blood (actually I watched some of this and thought it was dumb years ago so maybe not)
Curb
Veep
Second season of Deadwood

probably some others...I've seen most of the big ones. Suggestions?

Watch Veep right the god drat now poo poo rear end gently caress

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Chichevache posted:

I really enjoyed it too. I want a third season almost as much as I want season 3 of Peaky Blinders.

Season 3 of The Fall should be out any day now, as they filmed it months ago. I have mixed feelings about it, because Jamie Dornan is coming back.

neonnoodle
Mar 20, 2008

by exmarx

precision posted:

Watch Veep right the god drat now poo poo rear end gently caress

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Gotta nuke something
I just binged Veep, and drat, what an amazing show.

The only reason I got to it just now is their marketing is terrible, and they make the show look like the sitcommiest of sitcoms. I only dipped my toe in to see why it was getting so many accolades, despite commercials for it making it look terrible.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer
Now that down The Thick of It for a similar but even better series.

Mr. Toodles
Jun 22, 2004

I support prison abolition, except for posters without avatars.

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

I just binged Veep, and drat, what an amazing show.

The only reason I got to it just now is their marketing is terrible, and they make the show look like the sitcommiest of sitcoms. I only dipped my toe in to see why it was getting so many accolades, despite commercials for it making it look terrible.

If you liked Veep you should check out "In the Loop" on Netflix. Veep was was created by Armando Iannucci who directed In the Loop and a few of the writers are from the movie also write for the show.

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


Chichevache posted:

I really enjoyed it too. I want a third season almost as much as I want season 3 of Peaky Blinders.

Not sure if you know, but there's a third season of both being worked on iirc.

And I liked S1 of the fall ok, but S2 just seemed super-cliche to me. It gave me vibes of the killing, but not in a good way. And I normally love Gillian Anderson but she seemed really wasted here.

precision posted:

Season 3 of The Fall should be out any day now, as they filmed it months ago. I have mixed feelings about it, because Jamie Dornan is coming back.

That really sucks, although I guess it would fit in with Broadchurch and Happy Valley in the category of "british crime dramas that don't know when to move on from a concluded plot"

Stevie Lee
Oct 8, 2007

axleblaze posted:

Now that down The Thick of It for a similar but even better series.

I loved The Thick of It despite knowing gently caress all about British politics. I'll have to check out Veep.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

alansmithee posted:

And I liked S1 of the fall ok, but S2 just seemed super-cliche to me. It gave me vibes of the killing, but not in a good way. And I normally love Gillian Anderson but she seemed really wasted here.

That really sucks, although I guess it would fit in with Broadchurch and Happy Valley in the category of "british crime dramas that don't know when to move on from a concluded plot"

The only way I could see it working is if Jamie acts as Hannibal Lecter to Gillian as she tracks down the babysitter

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer

Stevie Lee posted:

I loved The Thick of It despite knowing gently caress all about British politics. I'll have to check out Veep.

Veep is really good but the characters are more competent and the plots sometimes actually are about things that effect people outside that political world and it's oddly weaker for it.

As a side note, I JUST realized like a week ago that the girl that plays Selena's top advisor on Veep is the girl from My Girl.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

Stevie Lee posted:

I loved The Thick of It despite knowing gently caress all about British politics. I'll have to check out Veep.

Just be prepared that Veep is a much slower version of The Thick of It. They're different beasts in a lot of more subtle ways, but the lack of a Malcolm type figure really changes the pace and intensity.

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

LloydDobler posted:

On the subject of cancelled HBO shows to finally get around to watching, I just started watching Hung and reading the synopsis makes it sound like it's going to be really dirty ala Californication but it's not. I'm 4 episodes in and so far it's a fairly charming show, although maybe a little predictable and cliche. I mean, there is talk of rear end in a top hat licking and big dicks, but it's not all T&A like I assumed it would be.

Streaming free on Amazon prime.

I got fed up with it because at first he had believable clients but then he started on a series of sexy-yet-crazy clients and it just screamed bullshit to me

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Filthy Hans posted:

I got fed up with it because at first he had believable clients but then he started on a series of sexy-yet-crazy clients and it just screamed bullshit to me

Yeah at a certain point it seemed like they were trying to keep HBO from canceling the show.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Season 1 of Hung was real good though.

GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.
Holy moly Welcome to Leith is good. It's edited like a horror movie, musical cues and all. It almost reminded me of Evil Dead at some points. Very fitting for the subject matter.

Also holy moly is it depressing.

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.

Filthy Hans posted:

I got fed up with it because at first he had believable clients but then he started on a series of sexy-yet-crazy clients and it just screamed bullshit to me

Yeah I'm halfway through season 3 and this show deserved a cancel. The main character and his family all go through growth and change, but his partner just stays the same and keeps making the same stupid mistakes over and over. On any other show she'd have bought a gun and solved her one and only problem the Goodfellas way.

Too bad, as it was well written and interesting at first.

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006

Just finished watching Band of Robbers. I've never read Tom Sawyer or Huckleberry Finn and to be honest didn't even realize they were in the same stories together, but the movie was really good anyway. I don't know how I had never heard of it until it popped up in my face on Netflix.

Jenny Angel
Oct 24, 2010

Out of Control
Hard to Regulate
Anything Goes!
Lipstick Apathy

GonSmithe posted:

Holy moly Welcome to Leith is good. It's edited like a horror movie, musical cues and all. It almost reminded me of Evil Dead at some points. Very fitting for the subject matter.

Also holy moly is it depressing.

Some of the framing is absolutely incredible, like the fact that there's a CNN report about Donald Sterling getting run out of the NBA for his racist rant playing behind Cobb as he checks into the motel towards the end

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer
The scene where they're talking to the kid and asking him if he knows any words that begin with N is one of the best scenes I've seen in a movie.

In general I found Welcome to Leith to be an interesting movie. It tells a compelling story well and makes you question very basic things like free speech and how we treat people even when they are awful.

GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.

axleblaze posted:

The scene where they're talking to the kid and asking him if he knows any words that begin with N is one of the best scenes I've seen in a movie.

In general I found Welcome to Leith to be an interesting movie. It tells a compelling story well and makes you question very basic things like free speech and how we treat people even when they are awful.

That scene is loving perfect. I wish he would have said it.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


I'm having trouble watching it because it's pissing me off so much.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

GonSmithe posted:

Holy moly Welcome to Leith is good. It's edited like a horror movie, musical cues and all. It almost reminded me of Evil Dead at some points. Very fitting for the subject matter.

Also holy moly is it depressing.

I just watched this, the entire time under the assumption that it was a fake documentary horror film.

Just moments ago I saw that what I just watched was an actual, real documentary.

This is me right now: :stare:

Bubble Bobby
Jan 28, 2005

axleblaze posted:

The scene where they're talking to the kid and asking him if he knows any words that begin with N is one of the best scenes I've seen in a movie.

In general I found Welcome to Leith to be an interesting movie. It tells a compelling story well and makes you question very basic things like free speech and how we treat people even when they are awful.

haha I forgot about this scene, it was too perfect.

What's scary is that you can tell that Cobb despite his repugnant views is a smart guy, and could have actually been something if he'd gone down a different path. Instead we get a character basically from a horror movie

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer
If it makes you feel better, according to the director at the Q+A I attended, Colby's standing in the white supremacist community was actually severely damaged by that whole "going on a talk show to prove he was 100% white" and he doesn't have the influence he once had.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Bug Bill Murray posted:

haha I forgot about this scene, it was too perfect.

What's scary is that you can tell that Cobb despite his repugnant views is a smart guy, and could have actually been something if he'd gone down a different path. Instead we get a character basically from a horror movie

I don't know. He seems more like somebody desperate to believe that he's smart or that he could have been somebody. His evidence for being smart is that he did well in school and that the army told him he could have been in the CIA or whatever, and he had an excuse ready for every turn in his life that didn't turn out. He seems like a pathetic nobody grasping for anything that would make him feel powerful or important, including talking up how his dad was a 33rd degree mason. And that is pretty much the only reason why people become nazis, I guess.

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veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Gotta wonder where he got his money from. He himself said he spends 18 hours a day on message boards. he must be retired or have inherited it.

I thought it was going to get more grim than it did. At the beginning they kind of play it up like the town will get overrun by nazis, but it just turns out that it it's him and his one slack jawed buddy. Not that it wouldn't have been a really lovely ordeal for the town anyways.

The best is the one guy that actually moved out there for it. Him and his wife are just so astoundingly stupid. I like how he constantly plays the victim card after antagonizing people. Like, I think he actually did not understand the cause and effect there. They seemed to have the maturity of 13 year olds.

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