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zVxTeflon posted:this whole conversation is why people dont read this subforum It turns out that no one wants to talk about movies on the movie forum. (I mean it's obnoxious, but have you read the other subforums? These are goons, they're gonna goon).
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zVxTeflon posted:this whole conversation is why people dont read this subforum Here is my hot take. Well, bye!
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May 7, 2016 09:41
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Sometimes you just wanna poo poo on something. It feels good to poo poo.
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May 7, 2016 12:35
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My favourite part about Under the Skin was seeing Scarlet Johansson in places that I go by all the time. Also it was a very good movie about a sex alien, and this thread is for talking about very good movies about sex aliens.
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May 7, 2016 12:57
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Maybe Alien 3 would of been better if Danny Glover had a wacky chase sequence with the alien...or had this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOw47NC_sxI
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May 7, 2016 13:32
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CelticPredator posted:Sometimes you just wanna poo poo on something. If you want to poo poo in public, go to Shanghai.
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May 7, 2016 14:07
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Basebf555 posted:Its free on Amazon Prime.
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May 7, 2016 14:34
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boom boom boom posted:I genuinely don't value your opinion enough to put any energy into figuring it out. State your position and defend it or don't Well, you did your best. Under the Skin uses vampire imagery to play around with the concept of a femme fatale, going beyond how the figure is portrayed in both classic or neo-noir films. The drinking of blood in such films is never literal; it represents such as profit. The X character is 'merely' a prostitute, but pushed to an extreme - the essence of what it is to be prostituted: completely dehumanized, literally and metaphorically undead. The sci-fi conceit is used to dispel the male fantasy of finding true love - 'a human heart of gold' - underneath the impersonal exterior, as we see the events from 'her' point of view as purely transactional. When the character is first pulled up as a corpse, from the side of the road, she is immediately identifiable as a post-traumatic subject. "Different forms of traumatic encounters, independently of their specific nature (social, natural, biological, symbol...) lead to the same result - a new subject emerges which survives its own death, the death (erasure) of its symbolic identity. There is no continuity between this new 'post-traumatic' subject (suffering Alzheimer's or other cerebral lesions, etc.): after the shock, literally a new subject emerges. Its features are well-known from numerous descriptions: lack of emotional engagement, profound indifference and detachment - it is a subject who is no longer 'in-the-world' in the Heideggerian sense of engaged embodied existence. This subject lives death as a form of life - his life is death-drive embodied, a life deprived of erotic engagement." -Zizek This is all relevant here because that is precisely the premise of Alien: Resurrection, as combined with the character Sil from Species. But going further, as X is a Godzilla-like sympathetic character of pure drive - demonic, radical Evil. Not coincidentally, Chappie deals with extremely similar themes - though perhaps even more abstract.
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May 7, 2016 18:21
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Can you see now why some people hear are so adamant that Prometheus is a "good" movie.
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May 7, 2016 19:00
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Prometheus is a good movie.
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May 7, 2016 20:05
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:If you want to poo poo in public, go to Shanghai. Haha. I like this.
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May 7, 2016 20:08
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Tenzarin posted:Can you see now why some people hear are so adamant that Prometheus is a "good" movie. Because it is? It's got some holes in it, but that doesn't automatically make a movie bad- the performances are fun, the designs are incredibly cool (if fairly divorced from the Alien aesthetic), and the themes the movie tries to tackle are genuinely interesting and relatively unexplored territory for blockbusters.
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May 7, 2016 20:21
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No you see the scientists don't act smart, not smart like me.
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May 7, 2016 21:43
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Well, you did your best. What does that have to do with Animal Farm?
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May 7, 2016 22:34
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boom boom boom posted:What does that have to do with Animal Farm? The character in the book is a sheep.
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May 7, 2016 22:46
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IM_DA_DECIDER posted:No you see the scientists don't act smart, not smart like me. As a deconstruction of optimistic 1950s whiz-bang sci-fi, I think some of the impact is lessened by the movie existing in a post-Alien world. Like audiences going into Prometheus knew it was made by Ridley Scott, so they knew things were going to go south and people would get hosed up. Can you imagine if Prometheus had come out in like the 1950s?
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May 7, 2016 22:56
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Xenomrph posted:Even I've come to grips with this. Like yeah some characters do some questionable stuff and that's unfortunate and makes me think less of them, but there's plenty of other stuff going on in the movie that I like that it's real easy to overlook. It's even simpler than that, really. The difference between the Nostromo and the Prometheus is that the latter is crewed by the bosses.
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May 7, 2016 23:05
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The character in the book is a sheep. In the book Under the Skin? You mean its a sheep disguised as a human or its an alien disguised as a sheep? I guess the movie took a lot of liberties with the story.
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May 7, 2016 23:09
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The problem with Prometheus is that Ridley Scott cut down the movie so it can make more money. Which is fine, but it ruined some good character stuff. Like how Milburn IS a touchy weird dude who looooves animals and loves to touch aliens. It was set up earlier in a deleted scene. And then when he does it later, it's perfectly in line with his character. I like the movie and all, but it's a bit iffy. But ultimately, I appreciate it for being something new for the series, and not a boring rehash.
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May 7, 2016 23:26
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Xenomrph posted:As a deconstruction of optimistic 1950s whiz-bang sci-fi, I think some of the impact is lessened by the movie existing in a post-Alien world. That's getting things backwards. Fans expecting a 'more realistic' Alien were treated to a meticulously realistic 1950s monster movie, because that's what the series has always been. CelticPredator posted:The problem with Prometheus is that Ridley Scott cut down the movie so it can make more money. That's nonsense.
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May 7, 2016 23:33
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Fans expecting a 'more realistic' Alien
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May 7, 2016 23:38
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Alien is a fairly straight forward remake of It! The Terror from Beyond Space, except with a higher body count and less subtle sexual imagery. I'm pretty excited to see what Covenant is about. Prometheus is about our creation, but the Covenant is about an agreement, a pact made with God. Raiders of the Lost Ark is directly referenced and it's going to be rad to read in conjunction with Scott's Exodus movie. Plus mother loving Danny McBride. My most anticipated movie since, well, Prometheus. Edit: Now I want Covenant to be about Danny McBride as Space Indiana Jones, running around with Michael Fassbender's sarcastic disembodied head. Mecha Gojira fucked around with this message at 00:20 on May 8, 2016 |
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May 7, 2016 23:46
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Fans expecting a 'more realistic' Alien were treated to a meticulously realistic 1950s monster movie, because that's what the series has always been. The problem with Prometheus is that it attempts to serve two masters regarding this. It attempts to be both a modern blockbuster and a 1950s monster movie, and the styles frankly don't gel that well with each other, which I think is the primary reason the campy aspects throw people off.
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May 8, 2016 01:26
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:That's getting things backwards. Actually it's true.
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May 8, 2016 07:00
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Because I'm a Human being, and you're a loving robot.
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May 8, 2016 07:03
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CelticPredator posted:The problem with Prometheus is that Ridley Scott cut down the movie so it can make more money. The footage was cut for pacing. He also refused the studio's request for an extended edition.
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May 8, 2016 08:17
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boom boom boom posted:I genuinely don't value your opinion enough to put any energy into figuring it out. State your position and defend it or don't I don't know what it is about these faceless goons who continually expose themselves to have no outside critical thinking just so they can say they "totally owned smg in that thread, he was totes flustered and everyone clapped" bullshit. I mean, you realize how obtuse you're being right? For what? E-cred? Seriously. The saddest goons.
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May 8, 2016 08:38
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It's very difficult, but necessary, to accept that every Alien film traffics in the same type of abstraction as this 'art house' fare. Of course people know full well that Alien is not a warning about the threat posed by UFO crash sites, and yet...
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May 8, 2016 08:53
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I don't want e cred, I just love the alien films for its visuals and its characters. Brett is an all timer.
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May 8, 2016 08:55
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I think boomx3 here was just finding a face-saving way to say that he wasn't following SMG's point. I'm pretty sure he did pretty well compared to most goons in that very crowded field, really.
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May 8, 2016 09:01
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ruddiger posted:I don't know what it is about these faceless goons who continually expose themselves to have no outside critical thinking just so they can say they "totally owned smg in that thread, he was totes flustered and everyone clapped" bullshit. I mean, you realize how obtuse you're being right? For what? E-cred? Seriously. The saddest goons. I genuinely don't understand why SMG didn't just say "I think the woman in Under the Skin wasn't an alien at all, she was a victim of a horrible trauma, and the alien stuff is just a metaphor for that". Instead he started talking about Animal Farm and said that there's another movie where somebody wears a fur coat and isn't an alien. He acted like he was attempting to lead me to the enlightenment of his Correct Movie Interpretation. If you want to have a conversation with somebody, state your opinion and defend it.
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May 8, 2016 14:17
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SMG brought up Animal Farm for a very simple reason and it's honestly impressive that you don't understand why.
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May 8, 2016 14:42
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He clearly understood why. His issue was with SMG talking down to him, and he refused to play along with SMG's 'breadcrumbs to wisdom' game. I mean, holy poo poo, even if you agree with SMG, it's honestly impressive that you don't understand why he took issue with how SMG was speaking to him.
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May 8, 2016 16:08
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Maybe he should be less smug about his bad opinion.
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May 8, 2016 16:16
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Maybe he should be less smug about his bad opinion. Posts like these are why no one posts in CD except movie spergs and snobs. You're called retarded if you don't absolutely love a movie filled with long ambient pauses of background shots instead of saying it was "okay I guess." look at this idiot taking a movie at face value what a simpleton *puts more caviar on cracker* Pimpcasso fucked around with this message at 16:28 on May 8, 2016 |
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May 8, 2016 16:26
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Maybe he should be less smug about his bad opinion. Surely there's room for SMG to be less smug about his, for sake of argument, good opinions? In any case, I realize I am not talking about the film, so I'll let it go.
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May 8, 2016 16:29
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Slugworth posted:I mean, holy poo poo, even if you agree with SMG, it's honestly impressive that you don't understand why he took issue with how SMG was speaking to him. are you mad sir we are discussing the right way to enjoy spaceship movies. the stakes are high, we have no time for 'plain speaking' or 'politeness' or 'not being a total choad'
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May 8, 2016 16:32
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Maybe he should be less smug about his bad opinion. Are you referring to me or SMG?
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vols bitch posted:Posts like these are why no one posts in CD except movie spergs and snobs. You're called retarded if you don't absolutely love a movie filled with long ambient pauses of background shots instead of saying it was "okay I guess."
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boom boom boom posted:Are you referring to me or SMG? Either! vols bitch posted:Posts like these are why no one posts in CD except movie spergs and snobs. You're called retarded if you don't absolutely love a movie filled with long ambient pauses of background shots instead of saying it was "okay I guess." I don't call people retarded.
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