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Pope Guilty posted:That just makes me like the guy more, really. "ED hates him!" is more advertisement than condemnation.
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May 10, 2016 01:52
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I've been quoted on ED multiple times, usually on pages about various furries, because for a while I had a perverse obsession with furry drama, not unlike those people who collect compilations of car crash videos
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May 10, 2016 02:16
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Finally listening to the Podcast - good topics but could really do with some sound filtering. Can offer advice if needed!
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May 10, 2016 02:26
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May 10, 2016 03:05
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Patrick Spens posted:How is it possible for you to be this bad at reading? Ugh. I deserve that. Small Frozen Thing posted:Oh cool, our secondary contrarian is here to pick up Cingulate's slack I don't think I deserve [/i]that[/i], but it still hurts. Truly, a name to conjure with. I was disappointed to read today that Nick Land's super-spooky nihilist mind-shattering secret which drove him to a mad specter haunting the opium dens of the Orient is just capitalism is an AI from the future trying to bring itself into being. That's not a dark revelation! It's just the denouement of The Difference Engine! Nick Land is a hack so bad the work of better writers gave him a dissociative episode.
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May 10, 2016 03:18
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Doc Hawkins posted:I was disappointed to read today that Nick Land's super-spooky nihilist mind-shattering secret which drove him to a mad specter haunting the opium dens of the Orient is just capitalism is an AI from the future trying to bring itself into being. Hi read this if you want to know what really happened - http://divus.cc/london/en/article/nick-land-ein-experiment-im-inhumanismus
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May 10, 2016 03:40
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Doc Hawkins posted:That's not a dark revelation! It's just the denouement of The Difference Engine! Nick Land is a hack so bad the work of better writers gave him a dissociative episode. The idea of a dark revelation driving someone insane is pretty fantastical on its own. Lovecraft and Poe got the order of operations wrong. What happens more often is that people go crazy, and then they start spouting crazy poo poo. Nick Land is just an educated person with an audience and run of the mill amphetamine psychosis.
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May 10, 2016 03:47
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Doc Hawkins posted:I don't think I deserve that, but it still hurts. Truly, a name to conjure with. Pretty sure she was talking about me there. Patrick Spens has a new favorite as of 04:55 on May 10, 2016 |
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May 10, 2016 04:52
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I like how everyone in this thread thinks everyone else is insulting them all the time.
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May 10, 2016 06:24
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I like how everyone in this thread thinks everyone else is insulting them all the time. Hey, gently caress you too, buddy. 
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May 10, 2016 06:30
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I like how everyone in this thread thinks everyone else is insulting them all the time. No you! Times two!
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May 10, 2016 06:47
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Wanamingo posted:Hey, gently caress you too, buddy. The gently caress did I do to deserve that, you dick?
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May 10, 2016 07:03
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Woolie Wool posted:Dear god, it's still around? How many hosts/countries have they been kicked out of? I thought ED wasn't actually kicked out of anywhere, it's just really bad at finding people will to pay for its upkeep. So there keep bouncing around cheap foreign hosting places.
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May 10, 2016 08:56
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Doc Hawkins posted:That quote is not Scott, but from a post by the non-binary Ozy. I agree that they're usually one of the good ones. (eta: I'd be interested in their reaction to the book, actually) The Vosgian Beast posted:I'd agree, but they've been involved in the same shady "desperately run PR for the far-right parts of our ingroup" as Scott including making a long post that boils down to "maybe the truth behind Gamergate is somewhere in the middle". And the unfortunate habit of using "neurotypical" as a snarl word against critics who happen to be autistic, which all find hilarious. Qwertycoatl posted:I'm curious to see if Phil will end up taking over from you as the Satan figure in rationalist mythology. I'm clearly co-Satan in this endeavour. Saeku posted:I wouldn't say I'm stirring poo poo so much as ribbing, because divabot's ED page basically just says he's a long-time goth (not something he's embarrassed about) and really into wikipedia (did not know) and I wouldn't've known of it except he or one of his friends brought it up. This actually dates back to me and the loved one getting LJDrama's early lovely trolling endeavours kicked off various servers. LJDrama were the fine and upstanding people backing the original ED. Now it's 4chanpedia, it's actually gone up in moral values. Tesseraction posted:Finally listening to the Podcast - good topics but could really do with some sound filtering. 1. Don't try to use a phone for this. (I couldn't find my USB sound card to use the professional-quality Rode M3 mic. I promptly bought two USB sound cards.) 2. Phil should use a good headset, room was too echoey. In further news, nostalgebraist has written a good bad review of NaB which Phil reposted. Part 4, links parts 1, 2, 3. I disagree with both nostalgebraist and Phil on what the gently caress Yudkowsky thought he was doing, and wrote an effortpost that was way too much work (mostly to find the bit where Yudkowsky explicitly says he started writing the Sequences to make people more "I’m waiting for @nostalgebraist to start writing Neoreaction a Basilisk Prime." - argumate
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divabot posted:This actually dates back to me and the loved one getting LJDrama's early lovely trolling endeavours kicked off various servers. LJDrama were the fine and upstanding people backing the original ED. Now it's 4chanpedia, it's actually gone up in moral values. I actually know one of the bigwigs from the old days and they in particular hated what it had become, hence it becoming OhInternet for a while. Doesn't really undo years of hurting people, of course.
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May 10, 2016 13:41
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I know one self-hating trans woman with a propensity for stalking other trans women who thinks it's the height of hilarity that I have a ED article.
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May 10, 2016 14:09
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Tesseraction posted:I actually know one of the bigwigs from the old days and they in particular hated what it had become, hence it becoming OhInternet for a while. Doesn't really undo years of hurting people, of course. GrrlVinyl or whatever her name is? I met her in IRC once, seemed nice 
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May 10, 2016 14:30
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She's also cool but not her. I'm not sure what name he's going by these days as he changed it AFAIK.
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May 10, 2016 14:35
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If I don't have an ED article am I still allowed to post here?
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May 10, 2016 14:36
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Who What Now posted:If I don't have an ED article am I still allowed to post here? I was a bigwig on RationalWiki, but I'm not mentioned anywhere in their article. Then again, it was apparently written by the resident punching bag of RW, who only wrote up the users he found himself fighting against all the time. (It's still mildly fulfilling to see Ace, the quintessential Schrodinger's Fratboy—if you agree with him, he's serious, if you don't agree with him, you're a no-fun loser who takes stuff on the internet way to seriously—try his shtick on the talkpage and have it not work.)
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May 10, 2016 15:30
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I am sorry for invoking the name of Cingulate. It was out of line.
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May 10, 2016 16:13
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Interesting that he's not posted in a while.
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People grow up and try to undo their youthful mistakes, and then on the internet, the people who haven't grown up or are still teenagers outnumber them and are able to stop them from fully undoing their youthful mistakes. This happened on a big scale with ED, and happened on a smaller scale with semi-famous webcomics opinion haver John Solomon.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I like how everyone in this thread thinks everyone else is insulting them all the time. Curvature of Earth posted:I was a bigwig on RationalWiki, but I'm not mentioned anywhere in their article. Then again, it was apparently written by the resident punching bag of RW, who only wrote up the users he found himself fighting against all the time. (It's still mildly fulfilling to see Ace, the quintessential Schrodinger's Fratboy—if you agree with him, he's serious, if you don't agree with him, you're a no-fun loser who takes stuff on the internet way to seriously—try his shtick on the talkpage and have it not work.) Incidentally, "Schrodinger's Fratboy" is great.
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Small Frozen Thing posted:I've been quoted on ED multiple times, usually on pages about various furries, because for a while I had a perverse obsession with furry drama, not unlike those people who collect compilations of car crash videos those videos are great though Tesseraction posted:Interesting that he's not posted in a while. don't jinx it fuckhead
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pookel posted:They're just staying on-theme. Sorry, Ace McWicked from RationalWiki.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:People grow up and try to undo their youthful mistakes, and then on the internet, the people who haven't grown up or are still teenagers outnumber them and are able to stop them from fully undoing their youthful mistakes. Don't forget That One Time Shmorky Drew Babyfurs like 16 years ago!
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Tesseraction posted:Interesting that he's not posted in a while. He pm'd me a while back explaining why and I didn't really want to share it just then because I didn't know if he was just taking a break or what and posting PM's seems a bit rude to me, but I'll give you guys a quote I think sums it up well. This was after I told him that while he can be annoying at times I think he's also helped the thread not jump up its own rear end too much: quote:I actually think I'm if at all doing the opposite - people are getting closed off due to being annoyed by me. I fear I'm rather contributing to polarization and shutting off conversations. I know at least I am experiencing a complete absence of conversations. It clearly highlights to me my personal shortcomings in skill and disposition.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:He pm'd me a while back explaining why and I didn't really want to share it just then because I didn't know if he was just taking a break or what and posting PM's seems a bit rude to me, but I'll give you guys a quote I think sums it up well. This was after I told him that while he can be annoying at times I think he's also helped the thread not jump up its own rear end too much: He's really bad at communicating.
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Tesseraction posted:Do you understand what Roko's Basilisk is? I say 'understand' but truly we cannot comprehend this terror of time immortal.
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Halloween Jack posted:Exhibit A in the case that alt-rightists and transhumanists said gently caress YOU DAD to whatever sort of Christianity they were raised in, but their worldview is still trapped in Christian eschatology? To be fair, aside from Anissimov, who actually still believes in Roko's Basilisk? And a lot of the people we discuss in this thread weren't raised in any sort of Christianity.
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Silver2195 posted:To be fair, aside from Anissimov, who actually still believes in Roko's Basilisk? I mean, yes, but most of them were raised in a culture massively shaped by Christianity and Christian assumptions, even if they came from households that were secular, or practiced other religions.
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Silver2195 posted:To be fair, aside from Anissimov, who actually still believes in Roko's Basilisk? Well, since TDT is an integral part of it, and none of the Cult is willing to dismiss TDT as steaming garbage (which it is, honestly), all of Yud's people. They've just found a way to dismiss it, not a way to make it stop being a thing.
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May 10, 2016 20:52
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The fact that the basilisk is something we have to ask whether anyone believes in anymore is indicative of the problem.
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GunnerJ posted:The fact that the basilisk is something we have to ask whether anyone believes in anymore is indicative of the problem. True. Jim is a frighteningly consistent source of horrifyingly vile opinions. Every so often I check to see if he's posted anything worthy of quoting here, and I always find something. Jim posted:If the votes are honestly counted, Duerte Harry will be the next president of the Philippines.
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May 10, 2016 22:50
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That groping incident happened in 2008. Not that time being a thing matters to Jim, it's pretty common that he'll have a current example followed by something that happened more than a decade ago, and imply that they're both current events.
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May 10, 2016 23:01
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Peztopiary posted:That groping incident happened in 2008. Not that time being a thing matters to Jim, it's pretty common that he'll have a current example followed by something that happened more than a decade ago, and imply that they're both current events. I was more focused on the obvious  of murder being OK as long as it's being done by "disciplined" people in uniform to presumed "real criminals." But the details are also dumb, naturally, because Jim is fractally wrong.
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