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i dropped 30 frags by the end of the first half in the only game i played today and we still lost 16-6 because the three people playing A apparently couldn't hold it for some reason. we started on CT. it also didn't help that on T side they were just endlessly baiting one another. 
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Alighieri posted:stopped watching summit stopped reading here, you have my full approval already it was funny when summit was trying to talk poo poo about msl even though he hasn't done anything even remotely relevant in CS for at least the last seven years also reminder that summit went 1-1 in open playoffs, and iirc he was never even in #1g back when 1g was relevant
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May 9, 2016 02:57
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online friend posted:it also didn't help that on T side they were just endlessly baiting one another. If it makes you feel any better I play with retards, every game, all the time. I got yelled at this morning for second guessing the guy calling strats. He would literally run onto a site and as he's doing it he'd tell us to throw smokes. He'd die seconds later and then yell at us that the smokes weren't up  I assumed he was throwing because god. drat.
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May 9, 2016 05:09
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fennesz posted:If it makes you feel any better I play with retards, every game, all the time. It's always fun when the dumbest person on your team is the loudest and calls stupid as poo poo things at every round. It's almost a rule in solo queing.
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May 9, 2016 05:22
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OxySnake posted:It's always fun when the dumbest person on your team is the loudest and calls stupid as poo poo things at every round. i've been recently trying to encourage people not to rush on pistol rounds because it usually doesn't work very well- imo pistol round is "get a pick and work off of it", same way every team i ever played on in 1.6 played them. for some reason people have this really stupid belief that you have to rush a site on pistol and that it's impossible to work picks on any round that isn't a gun round or an eco round? where did this idea come from? i said this once and some guy called me an idiot because he had more MVP stars than me? 
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May 9, 2016 05:33
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online friend posted:i said this once and some guy called me an idiot because he had more MVP stars than me? Well that's the other half of the "Loudest person calling strats" coin in MM. Points / MVPs = Skill / Knowledge I loved it yesterday when a person who called one team member "loving trash" after 3 rounds in MM when he was 3 1 3 and the "Trash" player was 0 2 3. By the time we won 16-10 the trash man top fragged and the other was in 3rd place.
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May 9, 2016 14:08
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online friend posted:i've been recently trying to encourage people not to rush on pistol rounds because it usually doesn't work very well- imo pistol round is "get a pick and work off of it", same way every team i ever played on in 1.6 played them. I think the supposed reason is essentially that usp-s is better for picking than glock, but really it's because at least 2 dudes are going to rush regardless. I tend to call a rush because if I call first we at least have a better chance of all ending up rushing together, towards the place we got a good spawn for. Also it makes it more likely for you to get bomb money even if your team is bad, because bomb is less likely to go off and die stupidly alone and leave 1 dude at an empty site with bomb down other side of the map. There is nothing wrong with a smart non-rush call though, assuming you know you are not playing with baddies. E: Why yes, I do solo queue. How could you tell? surc fucked around with this message at 14:30 on May 9, 2016 |
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May 9, 2016 14:19
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surc posted:I think the supposed reason is essentially that usp-s is better for picking than glock, but really it's because at least 2 dudes are going to rush regardless. I tend to call a rush because if I call first we at least have a better chance of all ending up rushing together, towards the place we got a good spawn for. Also it makes it more likely for you to get bomb money even if your team is bad, because bomb is less likely to go off and die stupidly alone and leave 1 dude at an empty site with bomb down other side of the map. picking with glocks is just fine if you shoulder peek and play smart instead of just running straight up cat on d2, because that kid sitting mid is always going to hit the shot of his life on you USP was the same way in 1.6, it was an easy "click to get headshots" weapon, but that didn't change the way we played our strats on T side
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May 9, 2016 14:59
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online friend posted:picking with glocks is just fine if you shoulder peek and play smart instead of just running straight up cat on d2, because that kid sitting mid is always going to hit the shot of his life on you it's still easier to pick with the USP/P2K. Also, the glock in this game has crazy good movement accuracy. GO also has brutal vertical aimpunch which is a big factor if CTs bought any utility at all. These two combine into glock being most effective when you close the distance and spam your shots. This all encourages a glock train strat. Now, a smart team will do a contact play, or use utility to get close up. But you're likely not getting that in solo-queue, so a rush it is.
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May 9, 2016 15:18
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dex_sda posted:it's still easier to pick with the USP/P2K. the glock and USP behave almost the same way as they did in 1.6 though? USP is better for long range tapping, glock is better for close range spam new guns, same as the old guns
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May 9, 2016 15:31
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online friend posted:the glock and USP behave almost the same way as they did in 1.6 though? USP is better for long range tapping, glock is better for close range spam not to the same extent. The difference is more pronounced than in 1.6, and it makes picking with the glock really risky. I mean it changes if you're in invite but I've seen my friend play smfc/global games in 5 stacks and it was usually a contact play turning into a glocktrain. It's just really effective in GO. When you're playing a pug a good rush is the easy play with a reasonable possibility of success. dex_sda fucked around with this message at 16:52 on May 9, 2016 |
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May 9, 2016 16:50
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You did give me a good CT side idea though. Molly + flash buy and just throw the molly in a chokepoint. After all, everyone rushes the T pistol, and no one expects a molly buy.
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May 9, 2016 16:55
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Doing a contact play where everyone sticks together usually results in a bomb plant even if you get owned in the post plant situation, whereas going for picks can backfire and leave you in a spot where you're unable to just easily train into a site with your superior numbers That said, to a fault my team almost always goes contact on pistol rounds and we've for instance been owned several times doing contact B on mirage where a molly just decimates our push before we can even get out of apps
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May 9, 2016 17:55
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Bohemian Nights posted:That said, to a fault my team almost always goes contact on pistol rounds and we've for instance been owned several times doing contact B on mirage where a molly just decimates our push before we can even get out of apps Nothing kills a B Rush more than needing to wait for a molly. It's the worst.
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May 9, 2016 20:32
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Bohemian Nights posted:Doing a contact play where everyone sticks together usually results in a bomb plant even if you get owned in the post plant situation, whereas going for picks can backfire and leave you in a spot where you're unable to just easily train into a site with your superior numbers my problem is it never fails that the one guy we choose to rush has godlike aim, but only on the pistol round and ends up dumpstering my entire team like a bunch of silvers
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May 9, 2016 21:39
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my counter strike kryptonite is every round where my opponents have rifles instead of pistols
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May 9, 2016 22:10
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Took me forever to get to my 10 wins. Had a nice roll going this weekend until yesterday when I needed one win and dropped 3 in a row, top of my team each game. Best match had 2 very vocal teens on the team who constantly berated me for being terrible even though I was the only one with plants, defenses on those plants, and was pretty well ahead of them. They nearly vote kicked me after a round where they immediately died and then I didn't carry the round. Solo queuing is so bad.
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May 9, 2016 22:40
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i think a lot of the time the issue is (a) everyone lines up and gets owned or (b) whoever ends up on entry [i.e. you] gets one-tapped and everyone else falls back and gets boxed in instead of trading
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May 9, 2016 22:40
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Antares posted:whoever ends up on entry [i.e. you] i swear to god my team purposely slows down in every loving game so they can bait each other into entry fragging they will take the longest route to a place just so someone else has to do it
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May 9, 2016 22:48
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online friend posted:i swear to god my team purposely slows down in every loving game so they can bait each other into entry fragging as an mg2, i have no issues being baited because i usually take the point because baiting is actual viable strategy to win site control but ymmv. 3.25/400dpi
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May 9, 2016 22:58
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ya in that sitch you get the kill and the other CT kills you so your team run away
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May 9, 2016 23:06
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Antares posted:ya in that sitch you get the kill and the other CT kills you so your team run away most of the time a trade favors the terrorists and letting the cts spread out/play more aggressive leads to easier site takes and easy picks so i'm still ok with this
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May 9, 2016 23:24
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Smithereens posted:as an mg2, i have no issues being baited because i usually take the point because baiting is actual viable strategy to win site control but ymmv. shaddup dude im dmg and im 20x better than u and im a higher rank so u cant give me any critisism about how i play until u are quantifiably better than me and u suck and are wrong
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May 10, 2016 00:04
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Demostrs posted:shaddup dude im dmg and im 20x better than u and im a higher rank so u cant give me any critisism about how i play until u are quantifiably better than me and u suck and are wrong dam son after getting owned that hard i officially quit counter-strike gg
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Smithereens posted:as an mg2, i have no issues being baited because i usually take the point because baiting is actual viable strategy to win site control but ymmv. c'mon buns, you and I both know that it really only works when you have players who have a clue about what they're actually doing and can think. In the lower ranks it has to be a veritable shitshow of baiting with zero trades when a smurf isn't involved. That's one thing I have never understood about players in this game: why the hell are they so afraid of dying? It's an all or nothing situation every single round. Make a plan and go in there and get some kills for gently caress sake. So many people are timid because they don't want to have to sit for a minute or so if they're dead.
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A TURGID FATSO posted:c'mon buns, you and I both know that it really only works when you have players who have a clue about what they're actually doing and can think. In the lower ranks it has to be a veritable shitshow of baiting with zero trades when a smurf isn't involved. it really isnt rocket surgery. it's common sense and should be covered under the common core curriculum in school. two targets are harder to kill than just a single target especially if the first target can get information on where the shooty man is. it's simple triggernometry.
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Antares posted:i think a lot of the time the issue is (a) everyone lines up and gets owned or (b) whoever ends up on entry [i.e. you] gets one-tapped and everyone else falls back and gets boxed in instead of trading This is why I always suggest strats that require a team commitment even if things go wrong. Waterfalling into Mirage A site or Cobblestone's drop are good examples. Even if you eat poo poo right after getting an entry, your team still committed to the strat and there's no way out other than to kill your way to the site.
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when i look at the ground i see ants and i wonder how they even exist why they even exist. the same thoughts i have about noobs.
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fennesz posted:This is why I always suggest strats that require a team commitment even if things go wrong. Waterfalling into Mirage A site or Cobblestone's drop are good examples. Even if you eat poo poo right after getting an entry, your team still committed to the strat and there's no way out other than to kill your way to the site. blah blah death ground blah blah sun tzu
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Smithereens posted:it really isnt rocket surgery. it's common sense and should be covered under the common core curriculum in school. two targets are harder to kill than just a single target especially if the first target can get information on where the shooty man is. it's simple triggernometry. lol @ this tryhard poo poo post
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I used to think the worst thing was getting people who just ran around not calling strats, I now know the worst thing is a team that all thinks they're global, when they're nova. E: It's my bad though, I really just need a voice_enable 0 bind. I just keep thinking maybe I'll get a teammate who is useful with callouts 
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they're just in elo hell because your bad and wouldn't drop them an awp
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"THEY'RE ALL B, THEY'RE ALL B!" *starts rotating, gets shot by 2 guys at long* "HE'S TO YOUR LEFT, YOUR LEFT" *can't hear footsteps over callout, guy comes from my right* 1v3 *team starts chatting about a skin loudly* x1000 E: The moral is team dragging me down, I should be global surc fucked around with this message at 14:16 on May 10, 2016 |
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why would you ever gimp yourself with voice_enable 0 is beyond me aside from possibly clutch moments
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ArfJason posted:why would you ever gimp yourself with voice_enable 0 is beyond me aside from possibly clutch moments I think surc just gave you examples why? But who knows I'm a lovely MG1
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fyallm posted:I think surc just gave you examples why? But who knows I'm a lovely MG1 the chances of missing genuine intel and strat calls even if they dont happen often is not worth it at all for the couple rounds you might have had enemy gunfire/steps completely muted by loud teammates
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ArfJason posted:the chances of missing genuine intel and strat calls even if they dont happen often is not worth it at all for the couple rounds you might have had enemy gunfire/steps completely muted by loud teammates This is why I don't have one, but playing MM has made me start thinking about it, because for the last few weeks it hasn't been "a couple rounds", it's been all dang game, and they start raging and throwing tantrums if you ask them to be quiet even once. And you better not even think about trying to make a single callout when you're dead if you've asked them to be quiet ever, or else it's getting glocked/knifed at the start of rounds and people shouting slurs at you all game. I'm puzzled because it's not even spring break or summer or anything AFAIK, so I don't know why it's been so bad lately. surc fucked around with this message at 14:54 on May 10, 2016 |
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Probably better off leaving voice_enable on and then just muting problem people. It's as simple as Tab, Right Click name, Block Communication. I've done it a handful of times, but tbh I rarely get tilted by people spouting off in CS. Usually it's somebody with a 1950s era Soviet microphone.
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ArfJason posted:the chances of missing genuine intel and strat calls even if they dont happen often is not worth it at all for the couple rounds you might have had enemy gunfire/steps completely muted by loud teammates I think this is probably true. Perhaps you can ask them to be quite more than once. Or in a nicer manner then 'SHUT THE gently caress UP' ( Not saying you are saying that but it happens). If I don't have time its usually 'shh shh shh' real quick if I do have time. Or the 'Please be quite guys unless you see something.' Also, you in the GooNova group? We usually have 3-5 man stacks every night.
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Jeza posted:Probably better off leaving voice_enable on and then just muting problem people. It's as simple as Tab, Right Click name, Block Communication. I've done it a handful of times, but tbh I rarely get tilted by people spouting off in CS. Usually it's somebody with a 1950s era Soviet microphone.
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