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shirts and skins: Jun 25, 2007; Good morning!

Ross Angeles posted:

At least the Raiders generally play in the colder months.

Poor baseball teams that come to play the A's with sewage problems in the middle of July

So when that article hit about "sewage flooding the locker room" it wasn't talking about the Mariners? Cause I know I root for a generally lovely team but drat

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Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Vegas Raiders would be cool. I prefer LA Raiders just because it basically turns the Rams into a team only the stuffiest of people in Southern CA will cheer for while they're also footing most of the bills, which is funny to me.

This is a couple pages old but I am not so sure the PAC wants to expand again in the short term. Maybe closer to 2023. There's just not a reason to divide the revenue again until it's time to make a play for an even bigger TV deal at renewal time.

# ? May 3, 2016 05:15

kiimo: Jul 24, 2003

quote:

Steve Wynn says Las Vegas should get ready for Raiders
http://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion...-ready-raiders
By Norm Clarke
Las Vegas Review-Journal

Billionaire Steve Wynn quietly has been taking on a power-broker role to help bring the NFL to Las Vegas.

Addressing his involvement for the first time during a red carpet event Friday, Wynn revealed he�s met with Oakland Raiders owner Mark Davis and two influential NFL owners, Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys and Stan Kroenke, who recently moved his St. Louis Rams to Los Angeles.

Wynn said Las Vegas has to be ready if the opportunity presents itself.

�If the NFL says, �If you want to move to Las Vegas, Raiders, you can,� then we�ve got to spring into action and we�ve got to come up with a program.

�I just thought it would be a great thing for the town, don�t you agree?�

Word of Wynn�s interest recently surfaced. At a Thursday news conference at UNLV, Davis confirmed he met with Wynn. Rob Goldstein, president and chief operating officer of Sheldon Adelson�s Las Vegas Sands Corp., credited Wynn with initiating the domed stadium conversation in a meeting with Adelson and Goldstein about three or four years ago.

�This very idea came out of his mouth,� Goldstein said at the news conference after he and Davis appeared before the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee.

Las Vegas Sands operates Adelson�s empire of hotel-casinos. Sands is a partner with Ed Roski�s Majestic Reality in pledging private financing for a proposed $1.4 billion domed stadium in the Strip resort corridor.

Davis on Thursday told the SNTIC, an advisory panel appointed by Gov. Brian Sandoval, that he would provide $500 million toward the construction of the 65,000-seat stadium if a public-private financing plan is approved by the Legislature.

I asked Wynn if he was partnering with Adelson.

�Well,� said Wynn, �Sheldon and I are both very strong supporters of it, and how it plays out is something we�ve got to see.

�We haven�t been down to the nitty gritty of it because, first of all, do the owners believe this is OK?� he added. �Their attitude toward the relationship with sports and gaming has changed. They�re having two games in London, where the entire audience can bet play by play, and the NFL is going to London and the audience is participating in that.

�So there�s been a sea change in the NFL�s attitude, at least based upon the London games,� Wynn continued. �It�s not hypocritical. I think they�re in a state of change. How that plays out with us is interesting.�

Wynn emphasized that �the one thing that Las Vegas should have in its arsenal that�s missing is a great stadium and an NFL team,� he said.

Davis �is dying to do it. He came to see me and Sheldon (Adelson). He made the rounds. He wanted to make sure there was local support.�

�Now financing these puppies is no small thing. How that plays out. � I went to dinner last week with Jerry Jones and Stan Kroenke and got into the conversation how Jerry did Cowboys [AT&T] Stadium.

�It�s a lamination of several different types of layers of financing,� Wynn said, �and we�re going to have to focus on that if there�s local support. Let me put it this way: If there�s a will, there�s a way.

�The question is if you can get 24 of 32 owners to agree,� Wynn said of the league support required to relocate an NFL franchise. �So there�s two strategies here: to get the others to think it�s OK, at least 24 out of 32, and secondly develop a strategy for financing,� he said.

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GopherFlats: Mar 16, 2011

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15499905/las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman-confident-oakland-raiders-relocate

Nothing really substantial on the move but the mayor is fulling backing it.

# ? May 11, 2016 17:07

Elephanthead: Sep 11, 2008; Toilet Rascal

Flying in to Vegas for a Raiders game would be awesome. Betting on T Rich to get negative yardage from my stadium seat, priceless.

# ? May 11, 2016 20:27

FUCKFACE MORON: Apr 23, 2010; by sebmojo

T-Rich isn't a Raider anymore :ssh:

# ? May 11, 2016 20:38

Zurreco: Dec 27, 2004; Cutty approves.

sam bradford lmao posted:

T-Rich isn't a Raider anymore

You can still make that bet from the seats, obviously. They'll probably make it so you can bet on any event that isn't currently happening in the new Thunderdome, just in case some rear end in a top hat puts up $500 on 1:10000 odds against someone running on the field and tackling Carr just to see if his friend will do it.

# ? May 12, 2016 01:19

Parmesan Basil: Nov 12, 2008; TIME IS THE FIRE IN WHICH WE BURN THE GAME CLOCK

drat once the Chargers move to San Antonio it's gonna be the AFC MidWest! Like and retweet.

# ? May 12, 2016 01:29

kiimo: Jul 24, 2003

Only when the Seahawks move to St. Louis and rejoin the division.

# ? May 12, 2016 01:32

Parmesan Basil: Nov 12, 2008; TIME IS THE FIRE IN WHICH WE BURN THE GAME CLOCK

kiimo posted:

Only when the Seahawks move to St. Louis and rejoin the division.

For the Seahawks fan in this forum: They used to be in the AFC West and were a laughingstock before realignment put them in the NFC West! This was before their first Super Bowl appearance.

# ? May 12, 2016 01:45

warcrimes: Jul 6, 2013; I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life.

Parmesan Basil posted:

drat once the Chargers move to San Antonio it's gonna be the AFC MidWest! Like and retweet.

where do you think Las Vegas is actually located?

# ? May 12, 2016 02:52

v2vian man: Sep 1, 2007; Only question I
ever thought was hard
was do I like Kirk
or do I like Picard?

warcrimes posted:

where do you think Las Vegas is actually located?

Denver and San Antonio too

# ? May 12, 2016 02:54

No Safe Word: Feb 26, 2005

Yeah some weirdos think Colorado is in the Midwest but Texas?

# ? May 12, 2016 07:40

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Parmesan Basil posted:

drat once the Chargers move to San Antonio it's gonna be the AFC MidWest! Like and retweet.

the Chiefs should follow suit with the Rams and move out to the coast so that the AFC West can actually make sense

# ? May 12, 2016 07:49

Konstantin: Jun 20, 2005; And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

No Safe Word posted:

Yeah some weirdos think Colorado is in the Midwest but Texas?

You could make a case for the part of Colorado east of Denver being the midwest, since there aren't any mountains and cows outnumber people.

# ? May 12, 2016 08:08

Volkerball: Oct 15, 2009; by FactsAreUseless

Konstantin posted:

You could make a case for the part of Colorado east of Denver being the midwest, since there aren't any mountains and cows outnumber people.

I think you draw the line from Midwest to west where you see the first tumbleweed. Like an hour or two east of Denver. Everything between there and Chicago is indistinguishable.

# ? May 12, 2016 09:07

kiimo: Jul 24, 2003

The Ozarks are different.

That statement is a workhorse.

# ? May 12, 2016 14:54

Parmesan Basil: Nov 12, 2008; TIME IS THE FIRE IN WHICH WE BURN THE GAME CLOCK

Ross Angeles posted:

the Chiefs should follow suit with the Rams and move out to the coast so that the AFC West can actually make sense

After drafting Tyreek Hill, they can gently caress right off to Portland for all I care.

# ? May 12, 2016 21:29

japtor: Oct 28, 2005

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15510451/cowboys-owner-jerry-jones-interested-idea-team-moving-las-vegas

quote:

Speaking at a sponsors' golf tournament at Cowboys Golf Club in Grapevine, Texas, Jones would not discuss which club he would like to see test the market, but he called Las Vegas, "one of the real crown jewels of communities in the United States."

"It has a flair for entertainment, and it has two million people, and they're avid sports fans, the full-time residents," Jones said. "They have a huge visiting contingent that more often than not are fans of some NFL football teams. You add all that together, and it's certainly in a conversation about the future relative to the NFL. As you well know, you have to have the right situation. You have to have the right ownership, want to and then a lot of other considerations that have to come into play. For me, I think that certainly the fact that Las Vegas has a gambling aspect to it is far overshadowed by the entertainment value, if you will, family appeal, that you have, the convention appeal. So it does not have disfavor with me, in my opinion, relative to being an NFL city."

# ? May 12, 2016 21:33

moon demon: Sep 11, 2001; of the moon, of the dream

"it does not have disfavor with me" is the most executive-speak thing ever

# ? May 12, 2016 22:31

Metapod: Mar 18, 2012

Where is Vegas getting/going to get the water needed to support all these people?

# ? May 12, 2016 22:34

warcrimes: Jul 6, 2013; I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life.

Metapod posted:

Where is Vegas getting/going to get the water needed to support all these people?

It needs a new water supply to support a 60-man roster? wut

# ? May 12, 2016 22:45

Volkerball: Oct 15, 2009; by FactsAreUseless

warcrimes posted:

It needs a new water supply to support a 60-man roster? wut

Don't be so dismissive. There's at least another 50 staff who will be going as well.

# ? May 12, 2016 22:50

Metapod: Mar 18, 2012

warcrimes posted:

It needs a new water supply to support a 60-man roster? wut

If they get a nfl team they are pretty much saying we want to expand as a city and bring in more people. How are they going to support them?

# ? May 12, 2016 22:55

Lessail: Apr 1, 2011; tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again

p.s. help my grapes are so sour!

Metapod posted:

If they get a nfl team they are pretty much saying we want to expand as a city and bring in more people. How are they going to support them?

bro do you think there's only hotel workers here or something

# ? May 12, 2016 22:57

No Safe Word: Feb 26, 2005

Metapod posted:

If they get a nfl team they are pretty much saying we want to expand as a city and bring in more people. How are they going to support them?

Vegas doesn't have to grow to support an NFL team. It's already bigger than many MSAs that have a team (Indy, Nashville, Jacksonville, New Orleans, Buffalo, Green Bay).

# ? May 12, 2016 22:58

Metapod: Mar 18, 2012

Lessail posted:

bro do you think there's only hotel workers here or something

I think they are big city built in a desert and was wondering there plan was going forward

No Safe Word posted:

Vegas doesn't have to grow to support an NFL team. It's already bigger than many MSAs that have a team (Indy, Nashville, Jacksonville, New Orleans, Buffalo, Green Bay).

Didn't think they were bigger than new orleans

# ? May 12, 2016 23:02

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Metapod posted:

I think they are big city built in a desert and was wondering there plan was going forward

Lake Mead, Colorado River, etc

# ? May 12, 2016 23:03

kiimo: Jul 24, 2003

Metapod posted:

If they get a nfl team they are pretty much saying we want to expand as a city and bring in more people. How are they going to support them?

They can drink Mead.

# ? May 12, 2016 23:04

Metapod: Mar 18, 2012

Ross Angeles posted:

Lake Mead

kiimo posted:

They can drink Mead.

The answer I was looking for. Thanks everyone

# ? May 12, 2016 23:06

No Safe Word: Feb 26, 2005

Metapod posted:

I think they are big city built in a desert and was wondering there plan was going forward

Didn't think they were bigger than new orleans

It's the 29th largest MSA in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas

The others ahead of it with no team: St Louis ( :cawg:

), Riverside (if this counts), Portland, Orlando, San Antonio, Sacramento

# ? May 12, 2016 23:11

moon demon: Sep 11, 2001; of the moon, of the dream

Riverside does not count.

# ? May 12, 2016 23:12

Big Ol Marsh Pussy: Jan 7, 2007

my inland empire opinion: corona smells like farts. thanks for listening

# ? May 12, 2016 23:15

warcrimes: Jul 6, 2013; I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life.

Metapod posted:

I think they are big city built in a desert and was wondering there plan was going forward

Ah, okay. LV is in a desert but it's not the middle of the Mojave, it's surrounded by mountains and has a plentiful water supply. Those Mormon genocidists picked a great spot to genocide.

# ? May 12, 2016 23:16

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:

my inland empire opinion: corona smells like farts. thanks for listening

it's not just corona

# ? May 12, 2016 23:16

Big Ol Marsh Pussy: Jan 7, 2007

another patented big ol marsh pussy inland empire hot take: my uncle used to live in hemet and i think that is the single worst city i have ever been to

# ? May 12, 2016 23:20

Sash!: Mar 16, 2001

chupacabraTERROR posted:

"it does not have disfavor with me" is the most executive-speak thing ever

that's how I talk in real life

# ? May 12, 2016 23:30

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Las Vegas's water plan is a lot better than Phoenix's, which is "Maybe Tucson will sell us the CAP water they're storing :downs:

Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:

another patented big ol marsh pussy inland empire hot take: my uncle used to live in hemet and i think that is the single worst city i have ever been to

Hemet is really bad.

# ? May 12, 2016 23:58

Metapod: Mar 18, 2012

warcrimes posted:

Ah, okay. LV is in a desert but it's not the middle of the Mojave, it's surrounded by mountains and has a plentiful water supply. Those Mormon genocidists picked a great spot to genocide.

Things that don't get taught in Oklahoma

Rick posted:

Las Vegas's water plan is a lot better than Phoenix's, which is "Maybe Tucson will sell us the CAP water they're storing "

Hemet is really bad.

Lmao

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Parmesan Basil: Nov 12, 2008; TIME IS THE FIRE IN WHICH WE BURN THE GAME CLOCK

All of California is bad. I'd rather be in Nebraska.

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