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None of our pollies are as good at looking at things as Kims Jong Il/Un
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# ? May 12, 2016 02:07 |
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Malformed Turdball finds his wife's purse open.tithin posted:loving BloatedCorpse posted:Like, I read the article, and I can't actually decipher what was actually done by this company. NL means No Liabilty "No-liability companies are differentiated from other companies as their shareholders are not liable to pay calls on unpaid shares. This differs from traditional company structure where the purchase of shares is a binding contract. Should the shareholder choose not to pay when there is a call, the shareholder forfeits both the unpaid and paid shares. This encourages investment in potentially risky mining ventures, as a shareholder with unpaid shares can choose to withdraw from the company with no legal consequences. A successful mining company usually converts to a limited liability company when advantageous." You have to be a mining company to do this. I'm not making this up. Because the actual election thread is an even bigger cesspool of mindless trolling/being trolled than this one it seems the LNP have finally started to reveal their election campaign strategy, such that it is. I'm actually shocked at how horribly poor it is and they relegated my prediction (economic management) arguably to third spot. At number one we have the utterly vacuous but none the less totally discredited three word slogan 'Jobs and Growth'. Jobs and Growth is about as Motherhood wishy washy as you could hope for and the chosen mechanism, trickle down from a tiny 'small' business tax cut, must have only passed the sniff test because everyone was holding their noses due to the other larger piles of dung in the campaign office. Trickle down has never worked. It actually does the opposite and consolidates wealth at the top. This does the opposite of creating Jobs and promoting growth Only someone with no understanding of economics OR recent history could possibly think this was a competent plan. Border Security. How much political capital can the abject misery of a couple of tens of thousands of people bring you? I'm sad to report that this has been an enduring winner for both sides of politics for two decades. I suppose the ultimate numbers are small compared to the perceived benefit (re-election) a small cruelty strategy? Minimum bastard approach to re-election? Fewer death camps NOW! I don't know what to say any more. I just want this sad sorry chapter in our nation's history to be over and us not be a human rights pariah state. And finally - A safe pair of economic hands. Here's where I really had to choke on my weeties. Julie Bishop then railed about how the previous 'disastrous coalition in 2007 (dangerous word there Julie) between Gillard and the Greens' had wrecked the Australian economy. Oh really? Given that that graph is GDP GROWTH and the flatter you can get that the better off you are overall (Volatility is a sign of poor economic management) then I'd say "Julie, the poo poo is dribbling down your chin and besmirching your brooch and couture." But there you go. And the obvious joke: A weak as piss performance from the worst government in Australian history. The only question: Is it bad enough to allow an abysmal ALP to grasp power in a race between face plants? -/- Is Shorten friending on Facebook only a an onomatopoeia with schadenfreude or do the linguistic roots go deeper?
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# ? May 12, 2016 02:09 |
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idk I like food because it tastes good
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# ? May 12, 2016 02:15 |
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quote:Q: Do you need to instil more party discipline around your refugee policy. One of your candidates has likened the process to Nazi concentration camps? whoops, we accidentally preselected someone with a conscience, can't have that
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# ? May 12, 2016 02:33 |
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what a weird coincidence that a guy named Chris Brown assaulted someone. should have seen that coming, Labailures
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# ? May 12, 2016 02:42 |
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Assuming someone assaults people because of their name? Sheesh they might want to put people in nazi camps but they aren't THAT bad
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# ? May 12, 2016 02:45 |
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It's me, the guy hiding fat stacks in offshore bank accounts for entirely legitimate and proper reasons.
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# ? May 12, 2016 03:26 |
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thanks for reminding people that Malcolm was business partners with the popular NSW Labor Premier Neville Wran.
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# ? May 12, 2016 03:30 |
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Au Revoir Shosanna posted:It's me, the guy hiding fat stacks in offshore bank accounts for entirely legitimate and proper reasons. If bill was smart he would ask why Australians would trust a man who has panama shell companies to close multinational tax loopholes.
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# ? May 12, 2016 03:31 |
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who better to design regulation of offshore tax arrangements than a banker/lawyer who has experience with offshore tax arrangements
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# ? May 12, 2016 03:44 |
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"Here's what I did, and here's how I could have been stopped"
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# ? May 12, 2016 03:50 |
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Negligent posted:who better to design regulation of offshore tax arrangements than a banker/lawyer who has experience with offshore tax arrangements hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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# ? May 12, 2016 03:54 |
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Has a Dirty Dozen feel to it. Twelve of Australia's worst tax evaders, released from prison, trained by the ATO and let loose on the Panamanians.
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# ? May 12, 2016 04:13 |
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Les Affaires posted:"Here's what I did, and here's how I could have been stopped" If I Did It
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# ? May 12, 2016 04:27 |
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quote:http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...511-got15o.html Wish someone would bail out my business when demand dropped.
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# ? May 12, 2016 04:35 |
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open24hours posted:Wish someone would bail out my business when supermarkets and megacorps artificially forced prices down to shore up their bottom end and increase their bargaining power against me hey i fixed your super reductive assessment of the situation
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# ? May 12, 2016 04:39 |
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You want a competitive market you have to take the whole package.
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# ? May 12, 2016 04:45 |
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open24hours posted:Wish someone would bail out my business when demand dropped. Brick Dust Otis posted:hey i fixed your super reductive assessment of the situation
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# ? May 12, 2016 04:46 |
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Brick Dust Otis posted:hey i fixed your super reductive assessment of the situation I'd happily pay a bit extra for milk if it kept the farms afloat. People are always going to need milk and it's a sustainable product for Australia, it's just that the Coles and Woolies price war has made it harder and harder for dairy farmers.
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# ? May 12, 2016 04:46 |
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A duopoly is not a competition.
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# ? May 12, 2016 04:46 |
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open24hours posted:Wish someone would bail out my business when demand dropped. Seriously, go complain about cotton farmers or something, you're off the reservation here
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# ? May 12, 2016 04:46 |
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open24hours posted:You want a competitive market you have to take the whole package.
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# ? May 12, 2016 04:48 |
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open24hours posted:You want a competitive market you have to take the whole package. Cool, let's not take the package then.
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# ? May 12, 2016 04:50 |
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Cartoon posted:Sorry, I might be thick, but nowhere in that document does it mention a drop in demand. Why do you think the price went down? MysticalMachineGun posted:Seriously, go complain about cotton farmers or something, you're off the reservation here What difference does it make what commodity you produce?
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# ? May 12, 2016 04:50 |
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open24hours posted:Why do you think the price went down? Kat Delacour posted:A duopoly is not a competition. Brick Dust Otis posted:supermarkets and megacorps artificially forced prices down to shore up their bottom end and increase their bargaining power against me e: Supply/Demand is only one mechanism for price. WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 04:55 on May 12, 2016 |
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There's nothing artificial about it.
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# ? May 12, 2016 04:54 |
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open24hours posted:Why do you think the price went down? You literally know nothing about the milk price wars do you.
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# ? May 12, 2016 04:55 |
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open24hours posted:There's nothing artificial about it. http://www.dairyaustralia.com.au/Markets-and-statistics/Production-and-sales/Consumption-Summary.aspx
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open24hours posted:Why do you think the price went down? http://sustainabletable.org.au/hungryforinfo/dairydiaries/tabid/156/default.aspx quote:As consumers, we hold the power to help direct where the Australian dairy industry will go, and we hold it right in our hip pockets. By choosing to purchase dairy that has been produced organically, from sustainably-managed local-as-possible farms, we’re telling the industry how we want things done. We’re saying no to ethically and environmentally-questionable practices and yes to sustainable, ecological and ethically-minded farming. It all starts by making the right choices when it comes to purchasing dairy products. If you knew a single thing about the diary industry you'd know that a cartel has been systematically forcing prices down due to supply chain monopoly/duopoly positions. This has (like so much else in primary industry) been forcing players out. That recently linked (like today) article in the Monthly covers it in pretty graphic detail. But I can stand to be corrected.
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# ? May 12, 2016 04:57 |
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Perfect example of how the "if company taxes are lowered they will spend more on employees!' line pushed by conservatives is bullshit. The company has an increase in profit of hundreds of millions of dollars and still slashes what it will pay.
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# ? May 12, 2016 04:58 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:http://www.dairyaustralia.com.au/Markets-and-statistics/Production-and-sales/Consumption-Summary.aspx Lid posted:You literally know nothing about the milk price wars do you.
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# ? May 12, 2016 04:59 |
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open24hours posted:What is this supposed to show? That the average consumption of dairy products in Australia is relatively stable? Yes.
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# ? May 12, 2016 05:00 |
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Cartoon posted:If you knew a single thing about the diary industry you'd know that a cartel has been systematically forcing prices down due to supply chain monopoly/duopoly positions. This has (like so much else in primary industry) been forcing players out. That recently linked (like today) article in the Monthly covers it in pretty graphic detail. It's not a cartel though? So what?
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# ? May 12, 2016 05:01 |
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Cartoon posted:Malformed Turdball finds his wife's purse open. The TL;DR of this is that there's nothing particularly shonky about being a director of a fly-by-night mining venture keeping its assets in the Virgin Islands to The interesting thing is what Turnbull did after he quit: his firm raises a bunch of shares for that self-same company. It's just a wee step away from conflict of interest/insider trading but also perfectly legal and would have been a very nice bonus going-away present for ceasing his directorship. I assume Wran got a nice backhander out of that too. Turnbull did a few barely-legal manoeuvres like this, the logging firm in the Solomon Islands story predates this caper. He got to play consultant to the Solomon Islands government and make a few bucks. Here's a read.
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# ? May 12, 2016 05:01 |
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open24hours posted:So what? So with growing exports and stable Australian consumption there hasn't been a decrease in demand for dairy products.
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# ? May 12, 2016 05:04 |
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There has been a decrease relative to supply which is what matters. Dairy farmers in all countries are dealing with low prices. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-14/eu-countries-discuss-dairy-oversupply/7245558
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open24hours posted:There has been a decrease relative to supply which is what matters. Dairy farmers in all countries are dealing with low prices. http://www.dairyaustralia.com.au/Markets-and-statistics/Market-situation-and-outlook/Situation-and-Outlook-February-2016.aspx quote:Australia’s stable domestic market and a more favourable exchange rate are helping to buffer the impact of declining world prices, high input costs and the dry season. Like just accept that the milk price wars are a real thing. The duopoly exists and is loving over farmers. It's not at all controversial.
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# ? May 12, 2016 05:13 |
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open24hours posted:There has been a decrease relative to supply which is what matters. Dairy farmers in all countries are dealing with low prices. Why aren't the current Australian milk wholesalers acting as a cartel?
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Cartoon posted:No where in that article does it say what you claim. There was a removal of EU quotas and this caused what some called a milk glut (In Europe). The very article however mentions the increase in Australian milk production of 2%. You really suck at this. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-04/saputo-ceo-expects-low-dairy-prices-to-persist-amid-global-glut http://www.businessinsider.com.au/this-is-how-the-global-dairy-glut-is-flowing-through-to-major-australian-banks-2016-3 Cartoon posted:Why aren't the current Australian milk wholesalers acting as a cartel? If it's not an imbalance in supply and demand then I'm happy to hear your theory about why prices are dropping.
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# ? May 12, 2016 05:23 |
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It's not a milk story, but climate change remains the figment of the imagination of a bunch of lefty opinion pushing "scientists"
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