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No, game is not getting better just piling on things to grind for, introducing new things to help some initially then nerfing them again to sell you poo poo, yes, Scimitar is still good, yes, you can spend money to speed poo poo up but you should never give them money and to be fair it's better than Neverwinter but that doesn't help much. Don't give them money.
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Preechr posted:Our D is bigger and more exciting. Pubbies fear and envy the D, for the D consumes them with a passion that they cannot comprehend. I lost the original of this post, which makes me sad.
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May 12, 2016 15:33
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Huh. The big news out of Germany is actually kinda big. Hopefully they've got someone competent unfuckerating the UI backend.
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May 12, 2016 17:17
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Wizard of the Deep posted:Huh. The big news out of Germany is actually kinda big.
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May 12, 2016 17:27
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This is a bold new frontier in the field of 'bad ideas'.
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May 12, 2016 17:35
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AfroSquirrel posted:This is a bold new frontier in the field of 'bad ideas'.
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May 12, 2016 17:42
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, just make BOFFs have passives and one activatible ability, and then reduce the number of other abilities that you get. They really should streamline the poo poo out of this game.
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May 12, 2016 18:23
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Wizard of the Deep posted:Huh. The big news out of Germany is actually kinda big.
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Cutedge posted:I've said it before and I'll say it again, just make BOFFs have passives and one activatible ability, and then reduce the number of other abilities that you get. They really should streamline the poo poo out of this game. Yeah. The fact that spacebar macros exist and will sometimes span two rows of buttons indicates that there needs to be some loving reworking (which will never happen).
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May 12, 2016 18:37
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They could always simplify the UI and game mechanics, merging any complex things into single buttons, release a mobile version, then re-master the PC version to use this new simplified design.
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May 12, 2016 18:43
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g0del posted:Until they confirm that they're fixing the UI and bringing the changes back over to the PC, this gets a solid 'meh'. It's not like the console players will be on holodeck, they'll get their own Well the blog says the graphical changes will be coming to the PC, but says nothing about the UI or controls. There is an image of a Guest pass for Fed Con going around saying that they're going to be announcing William Shatner and a T6 Connie.
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May 12, 2016 18:49
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A t6 connie? I thought they couldn't get CBS to let them do that?
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May 12, 2016 18:53
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Cutedge posted:A t6 connie? I thought they couldn't get CBS to let them do that? Please go post about it on the STO forums and gather opinions on the matter.
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May 12, 2016 20:28
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Wizard of the Deep posted:Huh. The big news out of Germany is actually kinda big. Whaaaaaaa, that is big. Hopefully it will take advantage of cross-platform play.
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nvm: wrong thread
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May 12, 2016 22:23
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AOY is up on tribble now, sever is down but there is a new loading screen and login background, pretty cool. Patch Notes http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1215316/tribble-maintenance-and-release-notes-may-12-2016 Tuskin38 fucked around with this message at 22:43 on May 12, 2016 |
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May 12, 2016 22:39
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SKY COQ posted:Whaaaaaaa, that is big. Hopefully it will take advantage of cross-platform play. It won't because Neverwinter didn't. Microsoft won't allow it. Good money earner. Those console players don't have a lot of MMO style stuff to choose from.
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May 12, 2016 22:54
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Weird, they reverted the tribble download files to Live, the server version is still the expansion though Edit: Wait its back to expansion 3 again
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May 12, 2016 23:01
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DancingShade posted:It won't because Neverwinter didn't. Microsoft won't allow it. Microsoft has supposedly changed their tune regarding cross-platform multiplayer, they say that they're willing to do it now. Cross-platform with PC doesn't have to be a Windows 10 app any more and they say that they're willing to do cross-platform with other consoles. Whether or not Sony is willing to play ball is another story.
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Veotax posted:Microsoft has supposedly changed their tune regarding cross-platform multiplayer, they say that they're willing to do it now. Cross-platform with PC doesn't have to be a Windows 10 app any more and they say that they're willing to do cross-platform with other consoles. Whether or not Sony is willing to play ball is another story. STO is a small enough game to work as a decent test for that. I bet it won't happen. IQ Fleet are now teasing the T6 Connie, in other news.
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 A dev confirmed that console STO is going to work like Neverwinter SKY COQ posted:
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Veotax posted:Microsoft has supposedly changed their tune regarding cross-platform multiplayer, they say that they're willing to do it now. Cross-platform with PC doesn't have to be a Windows 10 app any more and they say that they're willing to do cross-platform with other consoles. Whether or not Sony is willing to play ball is another story. I expect Sony is quite willing. They've already got FFXIV doing cross-platform multiplayer. But that game doesn't exist on any Xboxes because, I thought, Microsoft's certification process for updates made it basically impossible to keep things on the same version without some exhorbitant cost.
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Cutedge posted:but I'm curious how they are fixing the poo poo UI and dozens of upon dozens of abilities they expect you to click on constantly Yeah, I literally don't understand how they plan to do this, unless they're going to replace the entire doff powers system with Neverwinter style "you have six powers at a time and that's it, everything else is procs and combos". Tuskin38 posted:A dev confirmed that console STO is going to work like Neverwinter Oh, drat. If they do that on PC the ground game might actually become mildly interesting.
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Roadie posted:Yeah, I literally don't understand how they plan to do this, unless they're going to replace the entire doff powers system with Neverwinter style "you have six powers at a time and that's it, everything else is procs and combos".
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Roadie posted:Yeah, I literally don't understand how they plan to do this, unless they're going to replace the entire doff powers system with Neverwinter style "you have six powers at a time and that's it, everything else is procs and combos". I would unironically love this. The game has been crying out for some de-cluttering for years. Even if they do split servers, I hope they'll allow character transfers. If I can take Thrawn over to the Xbone I'll be happy.
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May 13, 2016 03:46
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Given the nature of Cbs's objections, I expect a T6 Connie, but only for TOS faction.
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May 13, 2016 03:48
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And when the dust settles the game will have a nice shiny new 5 button UI, and they will force even the PC players to use it because simplification is good, right?
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May 13, 2016 04:12
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We already have a five button UI; four movement buttons + spacebar.
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IPCRESS posted:We already have a five button UI; four movement buttons + spacebar. Or just spacebar if you have the Anchored trait.
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IPCRESS posted:We already have a five button UI; four movement buttons + spacebar. Did I mention no more spacebar macros, because that would be cheating.
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May 13, 2016 06:53
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I can't wait to see the clusterfuck that is STO's system on a console. I'm also curious to look in the bottom desk drawer of the dev's assigned to the project. I can't imagine there's any less than 3 different types of booze there.
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DAVE!!!(c)(tm) posted:Did I mention no more spacebar macros, because that would be cheating. Powers that you literally always want to activate as soon as the cooldown ends and that you literally always want turned on aren't actually powers, they're just manually activated procs. The ones that actually matter are the ones that you actually have to think about, like Eject Warp Plasma or the orbital strike ground power.
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Ps4 and Xbone both have mouse/ keyboard support now, maybe they'll just be saying gently caress it.
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I would not be surprised if the "port" is basically just the same client and a USB mouse/keyboard is mandatory. Or they could use the controller system from Tera Online where you have like 3-4 toggles to hotswap between all the different keybind layouts for Jeezus I can't see STO working on a controller at all. They're going to have to get keyboards. DancingShade fucked around with this message at 08:30 on May 13, 2016 |
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Technical Analysis posted:I'm also curious to look in the bottom desk drawer of the devs assigned to the project. I can't imagine there's any less than 3 different types of booze there. You are wrong. There are two and a half empty bottles, and a revolver.
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Because I'm lazy and do the PC on a big screen thing I used macros to play STO on a 360 controller. It worked but was complicated as hell. The back key was essentially a shift key that changed the functions of most buttons. Even then I still would have to reach down and hit a few clicky powers that I assigned to 1-6. I can kinda almost see it working and honestly I always vastly preferred piloting the ship around on an analog stick over the arrow keys. One of these I'll log back in, I'm probably full of zen from the ol lifetime stipend. Edit: after a bit more thought I'll include that my main is an eng, so more powers that I didn't want to hit on cd. When running tac alts the number of keys needed went way down since it was more stuff being hit automatically on cd, science was more of a hassle than the eng due to all the extra stuff. Dr. Lariat fucked around with this message at 09:39 on May 13, 2016 |
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Roadie posted:
No, I mean the server separation is like Neverwinter on the XB1. Oh boy, some neat stuff in the tribble files, for you guys who know how to dig through that stuff, you really should.
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quote:Our first major task was to convert a PC game that takes nearly an entire keyboard to play into a game that plays well with a 12 button controller. We focused on getting the controls right before we began work in earnest on this project, because we knew the game had to be as tactical, fun, and accessible as the PC game that preceded it. A combination of radial menus and streamlining of some HUD elements created a game that is easily understood, instantly accessible, and incredibly fun to play.
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Even on Fleet T6 ships there are what, 11 bridge officer skills? Combine that with what, 5 captain skills? I could see a radial menu for skills working. No where near as well as a spacebar macro, but I can see it working. Especially if the option for autofire on the console is there. Hell, use the triggers and you can have 3 different radial menus, and even if you've only got 8 skills per menu, that's still 24. Not quite the 30 you'd have on the 3 skill bars, but it's doable.
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