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Guy A. Person posted:Yeah it wouldn't surprise me to hear that network TV is behind the times in properly monetizing shows and is only taking into account ad revenue from the initial airing. But Hulu shows commercials, there is also a subscription service that gets rid of ads and opens up more content and they are presumably licensing these shows from the networks as well as reporting analytics for what shows are being watched under which experiences. It should certainly be taken into account but who knows if it actually is.
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Josh Lyman posted:Network execs are morons whose only thought is bigger Nielsen number = better A buddy of mine knows someone who's tangentially involved with the TV business here in Australia and apparently the Nielsen people he knows are completely mystified as to why Netflix only cares about subscriber numbers and aren't interested in the slightest in publishing their viewership data. Of course that's not stopping Nielsen from trying to figure out other ways to track Netlfix's viewership numbers: http://www.forbes.com/sites/ellenkilloran/2015/08/28/nielsen-has-begun-tracking-netflix-hulu-and-amazon-shows-for-studios/#53c112022431 http://www.forbes.com/sites/howardhomonoff/2016/01/22/nielsen-netflix-and-nbc-where-is-media-measurement-going/#48cf5a5e7c6e Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 21:34 on May 13, 2016 |
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Michael B Jordan joins Ryan Coogler a third time as he's cast in Black Panther
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Hey Fox if you're reading this please cast me as Human Torch in your next Fantastic Four movie so that I can be in the MCU.
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Since Marvel and Coogler are drafting all the Black Actors for this movie, can I reccomend Nia Long, Wesley Snipes and Clifton Powell
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Dexo posted:Since Marvel and Coogler are drafting all the Black Actors for this movie, can I reccomend Nia Long, Wesley Snipes and Clifton Powell They should get Die Antwoord too, they are from Africa right?
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Rurea posted:They should get Die Antwoord too, they are from Africa right? They're the wrong kind of Africans
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Related Deadline's reporting Gareth Edwards has dropped from the Godzilla sequel
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Maybe then can replace him with Gareth Evans and no one will notice.
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Neo Rasa posted:Maybe then can replace him with Gareth Evans and no one will notice. Probably not as both directors have identifiable styles.
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Warner Brothers has a generally good track record of getting the right kind of directors on board, so I'm not worried.
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Neo Rasa posted:Maybe then can replace him with Gareth
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Will Godzilla be appearing in this Godzilla sequel? He was in the first one so I'd assume so
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I'd actually rank Iron Man 2 as the second-best Marvel film. In retrospect, its utter shameless idiocy gives it an ersatz Michael Bay quality. Is it because a guy who is the son of someone exploited by howard stark and was living in poverty attacks tony while he is indulging himself in Monte Carlo (a country almost exclusively for the extremely rich)?
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Related Fuuuuuuuuuck. Looks like he wants to work on his own project which I have to respect. Who the hell do you replace him with? At least Godzilla 2 is far away and this isn't a last second thing.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Fuuuuuuuuuck. Looks like he wants to work on his own project which I have to respect. Who the hell do you replace him with? At least Godzilla 2 is far away and this isn't a last second thing. said it twice in greenlit thread and saying again: Tom Green, writer and director of Monsters: Dark Continent.
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Roland Emmerich will be free once ID4-2 comes out.
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K. Waste posted:said it twice in greenlit thread and saying again: Tom Green, writer and director of Monsters: Dark Continent. I thought I was the only one that liked that movie
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Yaws posted:I thought I was the only one that liked that movie You're not alone.
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Electromax posted:Roland Emmerich will be free once ID4-2 comes out. Godzilla: Atonement
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I hope the next movie focuses on the Godzilla registration act. All Godzilla and zilla-esque figures must sign a UN peacekeeping treaty and reveal their real names.
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Electromax posted:Roland Emmerich will be free once ID4-2 comes out. How does independence Day become ID4? I just cannot see the connection here.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:How does independence Day become ID4? I just cannot see the connection here. 4th of July
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Na'at posted:They're the wrong kind of Africans drat it, if they hadn't already cast Ulysses Klaw, Ninja would have actually been really fun as him though.
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Guy A. Person posted:Yeah it wouldn't surprise me to hear that network TV is behind the times in properly monetizing shows and is only taking into account ad revenue from the initial airing. But Hulu shows commercials, there is also a subscription service that gets rid of ads and opens up more content and they are presumably licensing these shows from the networks as well as reporting analytics for what shows are being watched under which experiences. It should certainly be taken into account but who knows if it actually is. Online numbers are taken into account when deciding whether to renew or cancel a television show but they aren't weighted as heavily as actual television viewers because A) while online services can and do play ads, they generally aren't as expensive or lucrative as television advertisements and B) except for Netflix, which is a direct competitor to the major networks and gets to basically tell them to gently caress off when it comes to reporting numbers, few other subscription services produce numbers of viewers worth pursuing: there are 116 million TV watching households in America, 42 million Netflix subscriptions, and 9 million Hulu subscriptions. Networks weight their ratings reports accordingly.
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Mecha Gojira posted:4th of July So ID4 is independence day 4th? Where's the July?
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Strom Cuzewon posted:So ID4 is independence day 4th? Where's the July? July 4 is America's Independence Day. That's where the 4 came from. That's about as complicated as that name got.
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I would like to once again register my disappointment that the Independence Day sequel isn't called Veterans Day.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Yeah, but it never had great ratings. They tried to cancel it after season 2, but only kept it because they had nothing to replace it with. They semi-cancelled it after season 4 by getting rid of the creator and moving the timeslot, then the final season was an online only Yahoo! streaming exclusive. 30 Rock was making all those jokes too. Better even.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:So ID4 is independence day 4th? Where's the July? "ID4" was the brand logo they marketed the original movie with. Google suggests this was born from a preproduction license dispute with the name "Independence Day" alone when WB was unsure if they could use that title, and the abbreviation stuck once it got resolved. Lump it in with GCN being shorthand for a Nintendo GameCube.
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K. Waste posted:said it twice in greenlit thread and saying again: Tom Green, writer and director of Freddy Got Fingered.
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Finally watched Fantastic Four last night. I didn't even think it was a matter of the second half becoming an entirely different movie as it was that they got tired of making it halfway through and shut things down, decided the bare minimum they would need to put out a comprehensible movie, and then used reshoots, editing and dubbed voices to cover things up. The biggest issue is that the pacing in the first Act seemed like they were setting up for a much longer movie, then the end of Act 2 (Doom short circuiting the teams powers and defeating them) just immediately transitioned into Act 3: "this movie needs to end in 5 minutes so the F4 wins". The body horror stuff was all really good and I actually didn't mind this interpretation of Doom, especially with him horrifically murdering people with unknowable cosmic powers. The idea of the F4 project being government funded and getting taken over and twisted was a decent angle too but went away since, again, the entire 3rd act was like a 10 minute race to the credits. Honestly the skeleton of a decent to good movie was there and there is some really brilliant stuff peaking through, but whatever happened behind the scenes clearly made everyone loving give up at some point. Even the special effects are all over the map, with some extremely lazy CGI for the Thing during his demo reel for the military. It sucks because it seemed like there was a lot of potential in this interpretation and now the well is so poisoned that Fox is either going to wait until the rights are about the be up in another decade or whatever or else try to put out the safest thing they can. There was already news yesterday that a producer wants to make a "brighter" sequel with the same cast, which just seems to be taking the wrong lesson from the failure.
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Guy A. Person posted:There was already news yesterday that a producer wants to make a "brighter" sequel with the same cast, which just seems to be taking the wrong lesson from the failure. He's taken the critic's advice of "more fun".
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