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Koramei posted:same, goddamn, I don't understand the appeal of day/night cycles in these kinds of games at all The technical aspects to variable lighting on the models that they are using. It's purely for the bling.
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YeOldeButchere posted:Night time shouldn't really matter anyway once you reach the modern age, though. You can light things up once you research the Fission technology.
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It's been a thing in every mod for a strategy game as long as it's been available, even going back to Age of Mythology in 2002. There was no bling to be had back then. I guess I don't mind day/night cycles on a long timer, like half an hour or some poo poo, but the 3-5 minutes every strategy game seems to do is just distracting as all hell. I guess a lot of people must like it though since it keeps coming back.
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May 13, 2016 22:26
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Cities at night are really pretty 
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thrawn527 posted:This seems silly, considering it's not like it'll be tied to days, but will change from day to night back to day over the course of, what, 500 years or something? This is a chaotic era  Civilization VI: Trade dye for salt
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Thread's here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3775912
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skooma512 posted:Civilization VI: Trade dye for salt This is gold
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The city bit sounds like it can be interesting, but at the same time I've always found cities were far too large in Civ games, and making them grow over more tiles isn't going to help in that respect. I'd like to go the other way around and have a city be just one tile; you want another tile you build another city. Would be kinda like provinces in a Paradox game I guess. Speaking of which, the attrition mechanism is a good answer to the issue of the DoomStack.
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German Joey posted:Oh right on, I remember you, you were one of the guys who did that goofy Barry Lyndon thing in PB18! Apologies for that gimmick, our group decided on a name long after I had personally settled on the gimmick I was going to run. And that gimmick (ponies) was intended to piss off Bob. And I also apologise for the fact that a half dozen people playing a single civ in 10 turn intervals with no communication should have been predicted to result in a quick death, destabilising the world. I've been on RB a long time, I still remember when Mackoti first showed up, and no one expected much from him, but then he started winning consistently across all different games. I do wish I could read my opponents as well as Mack always can.
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after a while you're just like "gently caress it, i raise. call my bluff"
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RagnarokAngel posted:Cities at night are really pretty Especially the burning ones of your enemies. 
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Popular Thug Drink posted:after a while you're just like "gently caress it, i raise. call my bluff" 
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Zopotantor posted:Especially the burning ones of your enemies. TheFallenEvincar posted:after a while you're just like "Hitler hitler, hitler hitler. Hitler hitler hitler"  there?As for being all hitler... One time I did play as Germany (normal vanilla version) and started right next to the loving city shitter Hiawatha. I of course acted quickly to contain the outbreak and die Wehrmacht stomped all over his cities, razed them thoroughly before thrashing his capital and putting the diarrhea leader himself in a camp wrapped up in blankets. gently caress that guy. 
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To be fair that sounds like the real Bismarck too.
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Nope, for obvious reasons. Doesn't stop people from requesting him for every game and modding him in.
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drunken officeparty posted:Is Hitler actually in any of the Civ games? No, because they want to be able to sell their games to Germany. But he always gets modded in.
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May 14, 2016 22:28
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Civilization 4 had both Stalin and Mao in it. 
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It's bad enough that any mention of Germany gets "HITLER LOL" responses, better to not have him be the face for the entire German Civilization.
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Poil posted:Civilization 4 had both Stalin and Mao in it. Because Russia and China don't infamously ban all references to their monstrous previous rulers. ...though I guess it'd be kind of weird to have, say, Pol Pot in the game, wouldn't it?
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Poil posted:Civilization 4 had both Stalin and Mao in it. Probably because those countries don't have censorship boards that object to the existence of those leaders and their effect on the civilization in question. Germany really doesn't like to be reminded about 1939 to 1944.
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Byzantine posted:It's bad enough that any mention of Germany gets "HITLER LOL" responses, better to not have him be the face for the entire German Civilization. The day Germany unclenches and stops being touchy as poo poo about stuff their grandparents did, we'll stop enjoying teasing them so much.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:...though I guess it'd be kind of weird to have, say, Pol Pot in the game, wouldn't it? Well yeah it's just too much of a disadvantage when your UA prevents you from building libraries and universities
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Hitler is useful for Five Hitlers Mode  The only acceptable death match Given how lacking and weak willed the AI can be it's at least nice to have a sore loser who always goes down swinging
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Poil posted:Civilization 4 had both Stalin and Mao in it. That's legacy; Civ 4 was effectively a throwback to Civ 1 and 2 after the complaints of Civ 3. Those two were in Civ 1.
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Bloodly posted:That's legacy; Civ 4 was effectively a throwback to Civ 1 and 2 after the complaints of Civ 3. Those two were in Civ 1. Also neither of those leaders have been denounced (and made illegal) by the present governments of their countries
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berryjon posted:Probably because those countries don't have censorship boards that object to the existence of those leaders and their effect on the civilization in question. Germany really doesn't like to be reminded about 1939 to 1944. Bullshit. We just don't want any of that poo poo coming back, thank you very much.
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Yeah saying they don't want to be reminded isn't fair. I may not agree with the method but the idea is that if you trivialize Hitler or the nazis you are not teaching future generations the gravity of what happened. Germany will talk about the nazis all the time it just has to be in an educational context.
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Anyone have any WWII scenarios/mods they can recommend for this? I remember playing a really good one for IV years back and kinda wanted to find another to play in V.
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I've updated the GoonPack with the 4/23 beta of the CBP. https://mega.nz/#!dJ0ByKwb!Du41z5Qqw4n91o-_Un1Irf_x6-wlO7E8r-xcLgykLdE There is a bug where the tech selection tree has a broken tech at the bottom called "TXT_KEY_2TECH_FORBIDDEN_TITLE" OR SOMETHING. I think it's caused by one of the custom civs but idk which one.
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Nova88 posted:I've updated the GoonPack with the 4/23 beta of the CBP. Is there a version of this that's compatible with the EUI?
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Aerdan posted:Is there a version of this that's compatible with the EUI? There is a version of the CBP modpack that includes EUI, it's the sticky thread created by Lynnes in the CivFanatics forum. You can replace the CBP mods in the GoonPAck with that version and recompile the modpack. The reason i didn't use EUI in this compile of the GoonPack is that I mainly play Civ 5 in multiplayer, and EUI causes issues with crashes and desyncs in multiplayer, plus I find it a bit verbose for my liking.
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Wow polynesia is much worse than I anticipated. I thought I was doing great, going out and meeting all the civs and city-states for the research bonuses and earning extra happiness via random CS quests. My dumb rear end didn't realize I was just stacking up warmonger penalties and CS competitiveness penalties with every civ as I went about business as usual. No sooner than I captured my 2nd capital, the entire world was already denouncing me. But I still need trading partners, I need gold, I need luxuries and no one will give them to me. On the plus side I had no reasons not to genocide those civs solely to remove their world congress votes and I'm free to lie about my intentions in all future wars.
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Sanctum posted:Wow polynesia is much worse than I anticipated. I thought I was doing great, going out and meeting all the civs and city-states for the research bonuses and earning extra happiness via random CS quests. My dumb rear end didn't realize I was just stacking up warmonger penalties and CS competitiveness penalties with every civ as I went about business as usual. You just played it backwards, that's all. You need to front-load your warmongering as Polynesia so by the time your empire is big enough that you actually need your luxury trade agreements, you can still make them. If you were playing on like a Pangaea or archipelago where meeting a new civ at a bad time is down to luck and RNG instead of relying on ocean tiles to gate them, though, then you really weren't playing to your strengths. Put it this way: you wouldn't play Siam and customize a game to have no CSes and then complain that their UA sucks.
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How is using the polynesia UA the same as siam not being able to use his UA.  You mean intentionally not making contact with civs? I figured the whole early advantage was to meet civs for the already-researched tech bonus and finding lots of city-states early for happiness.If you are intentionally avoiding contact and exploration, why even be polynesia then?
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Backwards of what you're thinking: by gating when and who you meet, you effectively control the flow of global politics until the first civ that researches Astronomy. You can pick on isolated civs, or take on the world and save the cut-off ones to make your RAs with later. As for meeting CSes, there's some strategy involved in the act itself of scouting for them so you can get the meet boost, get their bonuses, bully them, whatever, without meeting full civs (this mostly involves skirting coastal tiles), but the idea isn't to meet everyone as soon as possible: it's all about meeting everyone you need at that moment based on what your current short-term objective is. That's why I recommend front-loading your war game, taking everything you want, and then immediately searching out every other civ and largely peacing out for the rest of the game. Even if you land on another continent and take the capital of the first guy you meet, as long as you don't spot any other civs until after you have his city, you won't get any diplo penalties short of that he's actually good friends with his neighbors and denounces you or something. And if his neighbors already fuckin hate him, well, that's your foot in the door, buddy
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I mean, you can also just meet everybody and not be a warmonger.
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Yeah, warmonger penalties only occur if the civ in question knows that you exist at the time that the war is happening. So if you can take out a civ without meeting any other civs, then you get no warmonger penalties at all. In Civ4 it was totally crippling to start on an isolated continent with 1 or 2 other civs, because you couldn't effectively tech trade. In Civ5 it's a massive advantage because you can just wipe out your neighbors and then build your empire in peace.
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