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Hm..So, goonmod skins don't really seem to be working correctly    I'm guessing that some files didn't download edit: This error is in the beta and non-beta
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UnknownMercenary posted:You can open the safe. You just can't get the safe drop if you didn't already have it. I can't open the safe in Steam inventory or in-game. 
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May 14, 2016 02:56
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Do you have the corresponding drill to open said safe?
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May 14, 2016 03:16
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They both get granted at the same time. Also keep in mind if you're using the skin unlocker it actually disables all real Steam items so you can't do anything with your actual safe.
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May 14, 2016 03:55
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Yeah, so Anarchist is really, really good.
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May 14, 2016 07:52
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UnknownMercenary posted:They both get granted at the same time. Also keep in mind if you're using the skin unlocker it actually disables all real Steam items so you can't do anything with your actual safe. That was it.
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May 14, 2016 07:58
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Pro tip: If someone in your group goes into custody before the airlock on Beneath the Mountain, don't enter the airlock if you already have a hostage. Wait for the assault to end, then get your guy out - otherwise, they may be stuck in custody for the remainder of the heist.
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May 14, 2016 09:09
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Shooting Blanks posted:Pro tip: If someone in your group goes into custody before the airlock on Beneath the Mountain, don't enter the airlock if you already have a hostage. Wait for the assault to end, then get your guy out - otherwise, they may be stuck in custody for the remainder of the heist. Cripes, good call. That needs to be reported as a bug. There are going to be a number of analogous situations for other "points of no return".
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May 14, 2016 09:22
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Shooting Blanks posted:Pro tip: If someone in your group goes into custody before the airlock on Beneath the Mountain, don't enter the airlock if you already have a hostage. Wait for the assault to end, then get your guy out - otherwise, they may be stuck in custody for the remainder of the heist. Couldn't you just drag the hostage with you?
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May 14, 2016 09:50
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widespread posted:Couldn't you just drag the hostage with you? No, since a hostage on that map would be a dominated opponent, and those can't be moved. Also I came back yesterday to try out the beta and God-drat is the new Technician good. You really get a lot of deployables, and can finally be useful with them. Fire Trap is a great area denial thing, and it makes maps where you defend powerboxes a breeze, especially since most of those maps are greatly sped up by Breaching Charges. Making those come with the C4 but use a separate "ammo" pool is what makes it great. Having 6 Sentries, 7 Trip Mines and 3 Breaching Charges (or 14 Trip Mines, 6 Breaching Charges and 3 Sentries) means the build is something to actually consider as opposed to "just shoot them", which is great. Try the beta, it's a lot of fun. Kikas fucked around with this message at 10:41 on May 14, 2016 |
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May 14, 2016 10:34
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Discendo Vox posted:Cripes, good call. That needs to be reported as a bug. There are going to be a number of analogous situations for other "points of no return". Does the game no longer delete the hostages you have there? Because before it would just remove all the dominated cops on map once you enter the airlock.
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May 14, 2016 10:38
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Potentially dumb question, if I'm the only person with goonmod installed will it gently caress anything up for anybody else?
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May 14, 2016 11:13
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Orv posted:Potentially dumb question, if I'm the only person with goonmod installed will it gently caress anything up for anybody else? Nope! It's completely innocuous if you don't touch the mutators. Circumvent the RNG bullshit to your heart's desire (turn on extended inventory and gagecoins if you have not already). It doesn't play well with the beta in one aspect, switching perk decks. It'll crash your game. Apparently you can avoid this by disabling infamy outliners, a feature that highlights the skills you previously specced into a loadout.
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May 14, 2016 11:28
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Cool thanks. RNG was a large part of why I wasn't fond of this game and I'm giving it another shot with some friends so skipping that stuff sounds great.
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May 14, 2016 11:31
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Delacroix posted:Nope! It's completely innocuous if you don't touch the mutators. Circumvent the RNG bullshit to your heart's desire (turn on extended inventory and gagecoins if you have not already). And even that one problem can be circumvented by just not going into the perk deck menu and switching 'em with the mouse wheel instead. Goonmod (and Pocohud, too) has been stable as a rock for me so far
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May 14, 2016 11:57
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Orv posted:Cool thanks. RNG was a large part of why I wasn't fond of this game and I'm giving it another shot with some friends so skipping that stuff sounds great. They really should nuke the loot drop system and make their own in game storefront that you can use your in game money with at this point if they're reworking everything else from skills to weapon balance.
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May 14, 2016 12:27
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Really like the new/revamped skills but the beta is a bit too buggy. Have they said when it's going to be finished?
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May 14, 2016 16:01
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Crabtree posted:They really should nuke the loot drop system Especially since it's not "really" random and there is a seed system that's tied to some metadata or something, the upshot of which is that some players simply will never get certain things ever unless they cheat it in. Like right now, I'm completely out of mask colors and none have dropped for me in several months.
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May 14, 2016 16:07
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UnknownMercenary posted:Does the game no longer delete the hostages you have there? Because before it would just remove all the dominated cops on map once you enter the airlock. It does not, no. This is kind of a problem, as you might imagine. LuciferMorningstar posted:Yeah, so Anarchist is really, really good. I agree, though it's even more vulnerable to chain-down Deathwish bullshit than Grinder is. But it's also really fun. Pair with Ace Bullseye for the best of times. Psion fucked around with this message at 19:54 on May 14, 2016 |
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May 14, 2016 19:51
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Just started playing this again after a year off. Bipod with the Buzzsaw LMG is hilarious.
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May 14, 2016 20:03
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King Vidiot posted:Especially since it's not "really" random and there is a seed system that's tied to some metadata or something, the upshot of which is that some players simply will never get certain things ever unless they cheat it in. I don't see how that's possible. As far as I know, aside from the weapon mod limits and variance on infamous mask elements, the system is as random as it's possible to be. Do you have a source for this metadata/never getting things issue?
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May 14, 2016 20:24
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Psion posted:It does not, no. This is kind of a problem, as you might imagine. Someone make an :overkill: gif already.
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May 14, 2016 20:45
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Discendo Vox posted:I don't see how that's possible. As far as I know, aside from the weapon mod limits and variance on infamous mask elements, the system is as random as it's possible to be. Do you have a source for this metadata/never getting things issue? I didn't record it but I didn't get the starter pistol sight for any gun for an entire year. Oh I'll get masks or patterns or even some infamous stuff to drop, but never a marksman sight for the entire first year of playing and it sucked. The RNG is brutal and that's why people were either forced to goon mod or forced to get gage courier and that's never been good. Honestly, they should make an in game storefront that just lets you buy the mods instead of waiting for you to find them and then pay money to put them on. Just loving let me use my in game billions to buy poo poo already. You can tie certain mods to their DLC packs or achievements, but let people get them if they basically have the in game dosh and own the poo poo to unlock them.
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May 14, 2016 21:02
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Going months without a color drop seems like extreme hyperbole or the guy only plays once or twice a month. Fwiw I have never seen electric center pattern drop on xb1. I remember on 360 and from reading about the early PC days how common that drop was. On 360 electric center was probably a 1 in 20 drop.
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May 14, 2016 21:08
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Is it just me or are Sydney's voice lines really quiet?
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May 14, 2016 21:37
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PantsOptional posted:Is it just me or are Sydney's voice lines really quiet? Yeah, I had to turn down the music volume by a good 30% or more to barely hear her lines. Which is odd considering how hard she's screaming them.
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May 14, 2016 21:46
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Eh, RNG is really a bitch. I went some 650+ hours before I got the stupid shell rack for the Loco. Watched the guys I play with get it a couple times each before I finally got one to drop, and even then it was only after I had bought one with Gage Coins.
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May 14, 2016 21:48
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Crabtree posted:I didn't record it but I didn't get the starter pistol sight for any gun for an entire year. Oh I'll get masks or patterns or even some infamous stuff to drop, but never a marksman sight for the entire first year of playing and it sucked. The RNG is brutal and that's why people were either forced to goon mod or forced to get gage courier and that's never been good. Honestly, they should make an in game storefront that just lets you buy the mods instead of waiting for you to find them and then pay money to put them on. Just loving let me use my in game billions to buy poo poo already. That the RNG is stupid and that everyone should probably just use Goon Mod is not really in question. The notion that some people have cursed seeds and are literally incapable of rolling Dillinger is pretty dumb and requires substantial, non-anecdotal proof though. It's like when people believed you needed to name your Barbiaran Cohen in Diablo in order to get certain drops. "I have played for 2 years and never rolled a *blank*" is lovely but it's not actually the same as, "due to the way this game is coded, it is actually impossible I will ever roll a *blank*".
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May 14, 2016 22:06
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I'm pretty sure Chorse will literally never roll a Chains Begins, though
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May 14, 2016 22:10
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As a reminder, here's how card drops work. When the game picks an item to drop, it checks to see if you have 2 of every weapon mod unattached and sitting in your inventory. If it does, you don't get a weapon mod. If you've got two of any particular mod in your inventory, you won't get that mod. I believe the same system is in place for boost cards. If you're level 100, you won't get XP, natch. There's no restriction on money drops. As for mask parts...that gets more complicated. Here's what the wiki says, with some out of date info removed: Infamous masks are unlocked via card drops. The chance of getting a mask ranges from 9.8% at level 1 to 15% at level 90+. When a mask is in your inventory(meaning unassembled), that mask's likelihood of showing up during a payday is halved. Playing on Very Hard, Overkill or Death Wish increases this chance by 2, 3 and 5 respectively. Each card drop has a 5% chance to include infamous items in its loot pool. Equipping a fully unlocked Perk Deck increases the chance to enable infamous items by 10% of its normal chance. Your chance for getting a particular mask element is reduced by the size of the pool of masks the game can pick from, i.e. having more DLC. On top of all this, certain masks and patterns (electric center and a couple of the infamous masks) have lower drop rates beyond the general table- when the game picks from the infamous pool for their category, you still have a lower chance of getting them from the drop. I've found conflicting info on infamy rates, so aside from the fact that using a complete perk deck helps your odds, the default percentage chance is unclear. It's also unclear whether infamy outcome is evaluated before or after item type is decided. The rate may also be different for different mask items. All of this is far less of an issue with offshore payday and the daily job system in place. My understanding is that the same 2 mod limit applies to mod and boost outcomes from that system, with the logical exception that if you have 2+ of everything in the group you choose in your inventory, the outcome is random. Note that because there are so many more sights than everything else, if you don't specify a mod type and you have more than 2 of everything, you're very likely to get a sight. Crabtree posted:I didn't record it but I didn't get the starter pistol sight for any gun for an entire year. Oh I'll get masks or patterns or even some infamous stuff to drop, but never a marksman sight for the entire first year of playing and it sucked. The RNG is brutal and that's why people were either forced to goon mod or forced to get gage courier and that's never been good. Honestly, they should make an in game storefront that just lets you buy the mods instead of waiting for you to find them and then pay money to put them on. Just loving let me use my in game billions to buy poo poo already. The dailies do that for weapon mods. Most more recent DLC gives you the associated mods when they're achievement-locked. swims posted:Going months without a color drop seems like extreme hyperbole or the guy only plays once or twice a month. Electric center accidentally had a higher droprate than anything else during the beta. They changed it to have a lower drop rate than any of the other infamous patterns afterwards as an in-joke. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 22:31 on May 14, 2016 |
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May 14, 2016 22:26
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UnknownMercenary posted:Someone make an :overkill: gif already. We already have that, honestly. Just need to resize it and put it into gif form. 
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May 14, 2016 22:32
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Major Windmill progress! Only 330 GL40 kills to go. I got 250 just today. <100 Reinbeck kills to go. <1000 STRYK kills to go, but I may switch to the Bronco soon, as it's similarly unpleasant. As a reminder, I'm clearing weapon challenges in descending order of difficulty/ammo efficiency. This means that once the current weapons (especially the GL40) are clear, subsequent ones will happen much faster. I also managed to solo Heat Street: Clean Hit, which involved finishing Heat Street on Hard without killing any civilians. I now never have to play heat street again. The only remaining non-weapon grind challenges are: Sentry gun vs. the world – Be in a team that places four sentry guns during a heist. I just need to get three other people with the Wolf Pack for this. Not a big deal-probably doable alongside... Noob herder – Beat any heist on Overkill difficulty with three other players who are all using the noob lube perk. That means they need to start the heist at level 5 or lower. Making a file backup in payday 1 so you can reset your level is annoying, and so is trying to clear a heist on Overkill under the best of circumstances. The real challenge is finding three other people willing to put up with the frustration and time investment. Thankfully, I already have a blood oath from one of the three I need, and Diamond Heist is pretty doable in a low level group. Now I just need to find two more folks who want to learn about payday 1 and get a really exclusive achievement in the bargain. Let me know if you're interested. Blow out – Beat Undercover with everyone in the crew only using the GL40. Much harder than in Payday 2 because everyone has to do it. On the bright side, there's no difficulty requirement. That's the wrong door, again! – Complete No Mercy on Overkill difficulty, having sawed open all three ICU security doors. This is basically a precursor to Doctor Miserable, only much harder because the map is a meatgrinder(think the drill on Slaughterhouse) and the game is so much more difficult than the sequel. This might be the hardest one I have left, though I have some ideas to make it Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 22:46 on May 14, 2016 |
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May 14, 2016 22:43
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Is Sydney more enthused than Clover to be carrying out mass murder of law enforcement? This is important.
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May 14, 2016 22:57
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Nobody is more enthusiastic than Clover.
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May 14, 2016 23:11
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Psion posted:Nobody is more enthusiastic than Clover. I dunno, Jimmy may give her a run for her money...
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May 14, 2016 23:15
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King Vidiot posted:Especially since it's not "really" random and there is a seed system that's tied to some metadata or something, the upshot of which is that some players simply will never get certain things ever unless they cheat it in. I would like to learn more about this. Is it really possible that there are certain items that will never, ever drop for me? Like, ever? I'd believe it in a heartbeat, but... really? Because Psion posted:I'm pretty sure Chorse will literally never roll a Chains Begins, though edit: http://asheron.wikia.com/wiki/Wi_Flag I want to believe THE CHORSE fucked around with this message at 23:24 on May 14, 2016 |
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May 14, 2016 23:18
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A friend I play with has gotten more gag ball masks than probably anybody else who's ever played the game. I think at any given moment he'll have a stock of about 4 or 5 of them in his inventory and he's crafted at least a dozen.
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May 14, 2016 23:27
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King Vidiot posted:A friend I play with has gotten more gag ball masks than probably anybody else who's ever played the game. I think at any given moment he'll have a stock of about 4 or 5 of them in his inventory and he's crafted at least a dozen. 
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May 14, 2016 23:58
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King Vidiot posted:A friend I play with has gotten more gag ball masks than probably anybody else who's ever played the game. I think at any given moment he'll have a stock of about 4 or 5 of them in his inventory and he's crafted at least a dozen. is your friend named TRIBE?
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Caught Chains getting his rear end kicked by Black Widow in the new Captain America film. It's good to see Damion Poitier getting work.
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