|
Despera posted:Even if you take deklien back, so what? Youll just get deep dicked anytime pln3 feel like it. Good luck recruiting super pilots. You're in TEST. You're not allowed to talk about things you don't understand like supercaps.
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 07:40
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 15, 2024 23:00 |
|
|
vyst posted:You're in TEST. You're not allowed to talk about things you don't understand like supercaps. Well I can log mine on, so I'm already a better supercap pilot than anyone in gsf.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 07:45
|
|
|
How was desperate allowed to stay In goons for such a long time The only person in the last 1000 pages I regret reading
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 07:49
|
|
|
Despera posted:Well I can log mine on, so I'm already a better supercap pilot than anyone in gsf. Most supercaps pilot in GSF (excluding DBRB) know the difference between Bridge and Jump. So no, you're really not. 4th Horseman posted:How was desperate allowed to stay In goons for such a long time His departure from GSF makes losing sov completely worth it. MBC did us a favor if you ask me. Dalael fucked around with this message at 08:08 on May 15, 2016 |
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 08:03
|
|
|
Realistically I don't think we're taking back dek in any timeframe that doesn't involve years. I assume leadership is looking at alternatives, but they sure are taking their sweet time about it.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 08:25
|
|
|
YouTuber posted:I'm wondering how many months in lowsec it would take before your fairweather pubbie corps start loving off. What happens if PL decides to stick around until August? How many of these groups stick around if all GSF has to their name is Saranen after a few months? Lose enough people and allies and you'd be hard pressed to handle PH, let alone the entire "coalition" that inhabits the North. If all we have to contend with is PH, I don't see there realistically being a point where we couldn't take them. But I agree on the 2nd point that just sitting in Saranen doing stupid poo poo no one was interested in (Viceroy) is kinda what choked us to death. We spent a year in the north doing effectively nothing. ranbo das posted:Realistically I don't think we're taking back dek in any timeframe that doesn't involve years. I assume leadership is looking at alternatives, but they sure are taking their sweet time about it. The minute it became obvious that we were going to lose all our space I said we should have invaded some other location. Get the membership a place to recoup. But that would require we put our members ahead of our collective pride. There's not a region in this game that could stand up to us save the nothern ones. Rhymenoserous fucked around with this message at 08:34 on May 15, 2016 |
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 08:29
|
|
|
Retake Delve IMO
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 08:32
|
|
|
Massasoit posted:You so sure about that? Yup. Sooner or later, we'll get it back. Next month? Probably not. Next 6 months? Maybe. Next year? Eh. My point is that we'll be back. The timeline doesn't matter.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 08:53
|
|
|
darth cookie posted:Yup. You really think that whatevers left of the CFC will really stand for dicking around in lowsec for a year?
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 09:25
|
|
|
Dalael posted:Would it have been better if we kept undocking fleets, lost every time to 3 to 1 odds and then ran out of SRP a long while ago? fabius didn't lose rome or his allies though. in fact the entire point of his strategy was to avoid that.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 09:43
|
|
|
AAPsel posted:fabius didn't lose rome or his allies though. in fact the entire point of his strategy was to avoid that. No, but the country side kept burning and a lot of rome's allies decided to join Hannibal. The point I was making is that when you're outnumbered and outgunned, only an idiot charges in the fray hoping his gigantic balls will carry the day.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 10:01
|
|
|
http://i.imgur.com/B6Kj4Dm.webm
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 10:22
|
|
|
Dalael posted:Have you ever heard of a Fabian strategy? See, back in the old ages, there were a bunch of generals who were all like, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!! And then crashed in Hannibal's army because in their mind they absolutely needed a victory. All those guys lived to the ripe old age of "Met Hannibal on the field of battle" The Fabian Strategy is based on the defender having a ton of advantages that you no longer have, and most importantly time is on their side, which it is most certainly not for GSF stuck in lowsec. Dalael posted:No, but the country side kept burning and a lot of rome's allies decided to join Hannibal. You were not outnumbered or outgunned at the start of the war, that's the whole point; you had nearly equal numbers and threw it away to fold faster than BRAVE did.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 10:32
|
|
|
darth cookie posted:We probably did and that's probably a contributing factor to why they all got rolled and died. What's your point? Horde is currently living in Fade and according to Gobbins the only thing that could get Horde to move out of Fade. Is if GSF moves somewhere else to build a new home there. Then Horde would pack up and chase after them for more fights. Because sitting in fade would just make the Alliance fat. War is the default mindset.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 10:35
|
|
|
dragonstalking posted:You were not outnumbered or outgunned at the start of the war, that's the whole point; you had nearly equal numbers and threw it away to fold faster than BRAVE did. We sure as hell were. Every time we tried to seriously contest something we got outnumbered. And after every defeat we bled lot of members while the hype made the pubbies hordes join our ennemys ranks.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 10:37
|
|
|
Krogort posted:We sure as hell were. You had enough dudes in your alliances, if your management can't get them to show up maybe you have bigger problems than PL.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 10:39
|
|
|
Dalael posted:No, but the country side kept burning and a lot of rome's allies decided to join Hannibal. Except you're way past the country side burning and now have Hannibal cruising around on the forum in his blinged out chariot with more skulls than a warhammer 40k model. If you're fine with that then more power to you, but Fabius' plan depended precisely on Hannibal not being able to do that without a pitched battle. Now you're playing a waiting game, with one side sitting in one of the best regions of eve full of logged off supers they want to hunt and the other in lowsec. I'm not sure time is on your side.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 10:46
|
|
|
Zephyrine posted:Horde is currently living in Fade and according to Gobbins the only thing that could get Horde to move out of Fade. Is if GSF moves somewhere else to build a new home there. Then Horde would pack up and chase after them for more fights. Because sitting in fade would just make the Alliance fat. War is the default mindset. lol
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 10:49
|
|
|
dragonstalking posted:You had enough dudes in your alliances, if your management can't get them to show up maybe you have bigger problems than PL. lol
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 10:49
|
|
|
welcome back crazybrains guy, i was afraid you were almost normal now
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 10:50
|
|
|
FruitNYogurtParfait posted:welcome back crazybrains guy, i was afraid you were almost normal now 
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 10:59
|
|
|
you dont get to ironicat me for calling you crazy sorry dude
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 11:01
|
|
|
Deadtear's not crazy. Just incredibly bitter.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 11:04
|
|
|
Shimrra Jamaane posted:the CFC who is this Shimrra Jamaane posted:will really stand for dicking around in lowsec for a year? we just stage in lowsec, we barely do anything there other than shoot the odd moon, pretty much all of our fleets go into nullsec but yeah i'm sure if we had just staged in a conquerable system that flips in 4 days maximum that everything would have gone much better due to the following reasons: Gwyneth Palpate fucked around with this message at 11:27 on May 15, 2016 |
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 11:17
|
|
|
gwrtheyrn posted:Also is it time to talk about afk cloaking next? Yes, let's! Xolve posted:
Lol at lumping in some random neuts in with us but separating horde and nc. Into their own group so they don't make you look bad Magic Rabbit Hat posted:My favourite is PH and NC. forming the mystical 'third side' to this fight. They would hurt the elite pvp isk efficiency otherwise you see dragonstalking posted:The Fabian Strategy is based on the defender having a ton of advantages that you no longer have, and most importantly time is on their side, which it is most certainly not for GSF stuck in lowsec. 4000 versus 1800.... Ok
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 11:28
|
|
|
Krogort posted:We sure as hell were. The fact that you couldn't get enough guys to login to defend your home turf is a fate worse than losing the sov. On paper your alliances combined were way bigger than your enemies although probably not on super cap terms?
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 11:35
|
|
|
The theme for this page is people making perfectly reasonable posts about how the Fabian strategy might not be ideal for gsf right now, and deadtear claiming that he guffawed audibly at the laughable idea that everything isn't going brilliantly in this, the best of all possible words. Edit: Or worlds, but words works too. Endie fucked around with this message at 11:44 on May 15, 2016 |
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 11:39
|
|
|
FruitNYogurtParfait posted:you dont get to ironicat me for calling you crazy sorry dude you live in a thread on the internet
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 11:40
|
|
|
Endie posted:you live in a thread on the internet i spent most of the day metalworking and fiddling with conference badges
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 11:44
|
|
|
abigserve posted:On paper your alliances combined were way bigger than your enemies nope
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 11:45
|
|
|
Endie posted:The theme for this page is people making perfectly reasonable posts about how the Fabian strategy might not be ideal for gsf right now, and deadtear claiming that he guffawed audibly at the laughable idea that everything isn't going brilliantly in this, the best of all possible words. hmm yes, laughing at dragons talking saying "lol u didnt show up" for a 3-1 gangfucking of us and zephyrine talking some crazy poo poo about horde is exactly what you said in this post
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 11:47
|
|
|
im pretty sure i've never outright defended the decisions that have led up to this point beyond maybe "this is the best option at the time, run a bunch of cheap rear end fleets and dont feed pl kills they're literally already getting bored and bragging about how they're going on the test server to play with their big toys"
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 11:49
|
|
|
Yeah they definitely were. poo poo you barely did anything about Horde and TISHU, what did you think was going to happen when you just roll over and don't do poo poo? Sure you were outnumbered later on, that's what happens.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 11:50
|
|
|
Horde, TEST, and PL combined: 17400~ members Goonswarm alliance itself: 16214 edit: also I'm not critiquing the "don't feed kills" strat, I think it's a smart one, but I'm lollin at the "heh but we'll be the winners in the end  "
abigserve fucked around with this message at 11:54 on May 15, 2016 |
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 11:52
|
|
|
Heeeeey way to include all of Section 8 in that tally.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 11:53
|
|
|
darth cookie posted:Heeeeey way to include all of Section 8 in that tally. im actually asking, i can't tell
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 11:56
|
|
|
dragonstalking posted:Yeah they definitely were. uh, sma lost hardly anything against tishu and horde back in the start of this year, and what they did lose they took back both tishu and horde shamefully undeployed after being unable to break sma hostile momentum didn't pick up until the focus of the war shifted to vale of the silent
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 11:57
|
|
|
abigserve posted:Horde, TEST, and PL combined: 17400~ members okay, now add ncdot, moa, drone walkers, oss, oos, blood covenant, darkness, slyce, tard, and a gaggle of other shitbirds that mysteriously show up for every timer don't get me wrong, we had a lot of success with the "blue everyone" tactic in the past and i definitely concede that y'all managed to do a better job of bluing literally everyone you saw
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 12:00
|
|
|
FruitNYogurtParfait posted:yeah uh who the gently caress are the renters and who are the random rear end tiny shitbird member corps or alt corps It really doesn't matter. (I can't tell either)
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 12:00
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 15, 2024 23:00 |
|
|
Glory of Arioch posted:okay, now add ncdot, moa, drone walkers, oss, oos, blood covenant, darkness, slyce, tard, and a gaggle of other shitbirds that mysteriously show up for every timer I guess the blue donut exists after all. What no one realized is, it belonged to GSF's enemies.
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2016 12:01
|
|