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Big Coffin Hunter posted:WSX wasn't basically a front to keep a bunch of talent from leaving AAA in really poo poo ways and I'm also sure it made more money than Lucha Underground or at the very least didn't just throw as much of it down the toilet. what? no. it was mtv ecw like tv show. maybe you are thinking of lucha libre usa?
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KungFu Grip posted:what? no. it was mtv ecw like tv show. maybe you are thinking of lucha libre usa? He said "wasn't"
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Aesop Poprock posted:He said "wasn't" Yeah, I said "wasn't" I was talking poo poo about LU not WSX
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can't believe that guy tried to throw shade on 2015 so cal wrestler of the year winner b-boy
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Swagger Dagger posted:I like watching Lucha Underground Its really good they have famous b
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Tremendous Daveism on today's WOR. "Let me be clear so no-one can misinterpret, there's stuff that I've seen and I can't really say what it is..."
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Listening to MSL and Kevin Sullivan, I suddenly hit upon the reason I like Sullivan so much while he was talking about how as a kid he and his friends used to play Chestnuts or something rather than doing stuff all alone like kids and their iphones do today. It's the fact that he comes across as a mix of Grandpa Simpson and the landlady from Unbreakable Kimmy Schmitt. It's a weirdly endearing mix.
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Swagger Dagger posted:I like watching Lucha Underground I do too, and I liked WSX. I still watch the DVDs today, in fact. LU is a way better show in pretty much every respect, though, which is why it sucks that AAA is using it as leverage over their employees.
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CombineThresher posted:I do too, and I liked WSX. I still watch the DVDs today, in fact. LU is a way better show in pretty much every respect, though, which is why it sucks that AAA is using it as leverage over their employees. It's not so much that AAA is using it as leverage, it's that LU and AAA orchestrated the LU contracts for just that purpose. When one of your owners "negotiates" all the deals and tricks people into signing them it is a bit more than using leverage. It's criminal.
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:WSX wasn't basically a front to keep a bunch of talent from leaving AAA in really poo poo ways and I'm also sure it made more money than Lucha Underground or at the very least didn't just throw as much of it down the toilet. lol no. MTV took a bath on that one.
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WSX definitely didn't lose as much as LU but its host network also gave up on it way quicker due to management shakeups.
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Jubs posted:https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/732385581972361216 the quoted tweet doesnt exist anymore so uh
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The dude couldn't handle the fame that comes with being retweeted by big dave. The tweet was asking him if he followed and wrestling podcasts
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Go RV! posted:the quoted tweet doesnt exist anymore so uh The guy asked if Dave was a devoted Piss-ant and listened to the Pisscast religiously.
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Big ups to Writer Cath, Karmine, and of course Manflurry btw, I like the merging of the podcasts hope it happens more often if possible
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Vertical Lime posted:Nice to know Meltz also thinks of the car security stick when he hears The Club I lost it when Big Dave described what a fridge box is in detail
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triplexpac posted:I lost it when Big Dave described what a fridge box is in detail "They revealed - in the ring - that they had a time machine and they- " "Well, Big E made sure to explain it was really a refrigerator box." "So it wasn't a time machine?" "No it was a cardboard thing you put around a refrigerator when you buy the refrigerator." "Ok."
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Kind of shocked that after nearly twenty years the direction of the company is to still make sure that the McMahons are seen as the most important, resourceful and intelligent characters. Well not shocked because I can entirely believe that. What's the word for something where you know you should be shocked at something but find yourself utterly unsurprised.
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Filthy Tom's story about how he "blew" his WWE tryout is really kind of telling in the way they treat their talent. It just seems like the worst place to work.Gonzo McFee posted:Kind of shocked that after nearly twenty years the direction of the company is to still make sure that the McMahons are seen as the most important, resourceful and intelligent characters. Resignation.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Kind of shocked that after nearly twenty years the direction of the company is to still make sure that the McMahons are seen as the most important, resourceful and intelligent characters. It's weird though because Mr. McMahon was an over the top character who got completely owned by Stone Cold and the Rock and even Mankind and so on on a regular basis. Stephanie and Shane are way more 'we're real people and we're smarter and better than everyone' I would say the HHH/Stephanie era actually is a big change from the past heel authority figures who, even if meant to be powerful and menacing, were also clearly meant to be humiliated on a regular basis
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Marquis de Pyro posted:It's weird though because Mr. McMahon was an over the top character who got completely owned by Stone Cold and the Rock and even Mankind and so on on a regular basis. Stephanie and Shane are way more 'we're real people and we're smarter and better than everyone' so you're saying we should hit Steph with a bedpan?
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"Big E made sure to mention it was a refrigerator box" - Dave "So you mean it wasn't a time machine?" - Bryan "No, it was a cardboard thing you put around a refrigerator when you buy the refrigerator" - Dave
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VileLL posted:is there a good article about the LU/AAA contract thing people have been talking about? I don't think I've read all the details Konnan spilled collected in one place. I don't think he said anything new but it was stories probably spread across multiple Observers.
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ohh, it was the Konnan stuff. Thanks!
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sportsgenius86 posted:"Big E made sure to mention it was a refrigerator box" - Dave A worked handoff.
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coconono posted:so you're saying we should hit Steph with a bedpan? Maybe they're not but I definitely am
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sportsgenius86 posted:"Big E made sure to mention it was a refrigerator box" - Dave Stuff like this should be in the year-end best of, but it'll probably get forgotten
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VileLL posted:is there a good article about the LU/AAA contract thing people have been talking about? It's on the Konnan podcast and worth a listen, but the gist of it is LU and AAA partnered up for talent When it came time to sign contracts, AAA negotiated the majority of those contracts, and agreed to a 7 season deal for LU. Ricochet negotiated separately, it's unclear if anyone else did. AAA then got its talent to sign the contracts, which meant you could only wrestle on US TV in LU until the contract ended Some talent (namely El Hijo del Fantasma aka King Cuerno) wanted to leave AAA and move to another promotion. If the promotion was in the US, AAA pointed out that you can't appear on their TV for another 4 or 5 seasons and we won't help you get out of the deal we negotiated early. If the promotion was in Mexico, AAA and LU threatened not to blackball them.
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exploding mummy posted:It's on the Konnan podcast and worth a listen, but the gist of it is I really hope that this is just Triple A being the huge scumbags we've known they are forever and LU isn't really culpable in this. I don't want them to be just another carny-rear end wrestling promotion 
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Sanguinia posted:I really hope that this is just Triple A being the huge scumbags we've known they are forever and LU isn't really culpable in this. I don't want them to be just another carny-rear end wrestling promotion The guy who negotiated all those contracts and got the Mexican wrestlers to sign them (and gently caress them over) is one of the major stake holders in Lucha Underground. LU and AAA are joined at the hip.
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coconono posted:so you're saying we should hit Steph with a bedpan? No, but Steph getting in over her head and Becky putting her in the armbar or Sasha clotheslining her wouldn't go amiss.
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Sanguinia posted:I really hope that this is just Triple A being the huge scumbags we've known they are forever and LU isn't really culpable in this. I don't want them to be just another carny-rear end wrestling promotion well, LU apparently is an absolute godsend to how it treats wrestler on taping days, since its a tv shoot, there's actually water, and catering and wrestlers can take as much as they want and they're in a nice hotel and a meal allowance. no one wants to lose out on LU's perks compared to AAA's perks which are literally nothing but yeah, LU is totally complicit in this, and sadly the most ethical major wrestling promotion in North America is probably WWE.
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