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Syndic Thrass posted:I have like hybrid and projectile specs 5, AF and HACs 5, but the missile group literally doesn't even show up in my character sheet so I either test an idea out or I just deny the ones that require a garmur or hawk. Enyo Wolf daredevil Vagabond and vigilant will let you do the vast majority you'll get That sounds a bit more reasonable. Do you have any specific fits?
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They're in the google doc Nessin posted on the last page, and they aren't cheap. You can supposedly do most of the Anomic Team burners with a light missile/ECM kiting kestrel but the rest use blingy assault frigate fits (the enyo isn't too expensive). I am spacebroke so I'm still turning down the burners
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May 15, 2016 09:13
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I just don't want to waste time training missiles when I have near perfect gun skills with both hybrids and projectiles and essentially nothing in missiles. How many of the burners use non missile ships regardless of the cost?
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May 15, 2016 09:27
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I just don't want to waste time training missiles when I have near perfect gun skills with both hybrids and projectiles and essentially nothing in missiles. How many of the burners use non missile ships regardless of the cost? yeah i like not being able to fly half the ships in the game
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May 15, 2016 09:31
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Does anyone know if  are able to get people added to killmails if we petition? I was on the Fortizar kill in Hykanima last night but I'm not on the mail even though I was shooting at it and doing actual damage.
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May 15, 2016 09:55
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Jazzzzz posted:They're in the google doc Nessin posted on the last page, and they aren't cheap. You can supposedly do most of the Anomic Team burners with a light missile/ECM kiting kestrel but the rest use blingy assault frigate fits (the enyo isn't too expensive). I am spacebroke so I'm still turning down the burners
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May 15, 2016 10:06
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This will be a dumb question especially considering how long i've been playing but.. wtf is a burner mission again?
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May 15, 2016 10:09
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Dalael posted:This will be a dumb question especially considering how long i've been playing but.. wtf is a burner mission again?
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nessin posted:So I'm down to two things on my "Things I should actually do in Eve" (Loosely based on a list Flanders put up last month). One is put up a POS to Mine Goo and do a Reaction. Which I've already got a few empty moons scanned out just need to take the time out to actually do it. The other is run a Level 5 mission. I know there was some talk of running level 5s over the past couple months, but has anyone actually done one in a carrier since Citadel? Given the speed difference between fighters and drones and the way NPCs react to fighters now I just want to make sure things aren't drastically different compared to before the patch. Level 5's are far easier now.
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So I know the Rifter used to be the big king dick of cheap but effective frigates to use in large groups. Does that still hold true or is there another frig with a better strength to cost ratio? Gonna stockpile some frigs to go get myself killed in.
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May 15, 2016 14:19
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:yeah i like not being able to fly half the ships in the game Unless 20 skill injectors magically fall into my lap to boost those missile skill up I have more pertinent skills I want to train first.
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LemonDrizzle posted:You don't have to use expensive fits at all. Here, I wrote a thing: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hRkjZHqr92CV4iXzpXLT8uWuuj0AfvTGj5yAm1NV-_c/ To be honest most of the fits in the Blitz document aren't super expensive or can be made cheaper with a bit of tweaking. My problem is the cruiser missions, those ships are ridiculous expensive and need to be kept fairly expensive.
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Fureil posted:So I know the Rifter used to be the big king dick of cheap but effective frigates to use in large groups. Does that still hold true or is there another frig with a better strength to cost ratio? Gonna stockpile some frigs to go get myself killed in. There was a balance pass a long time ago. I can't think of a Frigate that particularly sucks in the "never use" category, and there are some that shine over others, but in general they're all decent now. Rifter is still pretty high on the scale too if you want to stick with that, it's just not so far above the rest that you can't even make out their names anymore. Edit: Actually, if you plan on flying T2 fits in T1 Frigates, look at the Faction frigates. They're cheaper than AFs and are incredibly fun to fly over most standard T1 Frigates.
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There was a player ran EVE Valkyrie ~esport attempt this weekend with Team North America facing off against Team EU. We, the EVE_NT TV guys, produced it and are going to be working on making more EVE Valkyrie PVP competitions down the line so this was more of a trial run for tech & other stuff. Also to give us a list of features we'd like to get CCP to implement, or at least figure out how to make ourselves. Match 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msY8GTRLjY4 Match 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-2TKKTEjNY Match 3 - (Lost to Twitch taking a poo poo) Match 4 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYD1T9lRCio Match 5 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5dxhABPJBc
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May 15, 2016 18:33
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So why exactly have PLEX prices dropped so sharply? Buy orders are now at 865mil. I know it has to do with the latest expansion but I don't understand the market fluctuations.
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May 15, 2016 19:51
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I think stockpiles, nerfing station trading with higher NPC taxes, and the fact that CFC had a fuckton of carrier multiboxers who have now Gooed those alts and sold the injectors.
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I didn't goo mine and I've been thinking about getting some thanatos in Syndicated amd/or wherever FCON is and zungen.gif ING people
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Speaking of PLEX, I was looking through the buy orders yesterday and how exactly is this explained? Are they npc buy orders? Because even with margin trading, the people placing those would need a few trillion isk to cover them...
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Ambaire posted:Speaking of PLEX, I was looking through the buy orders yesterday and how exactly is this explained? Are they npc buy orders? Because even with margin trading, the people placing those would need a few trillion isk to cover them... they ahve a few trillion isk
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May 15, 2016 21:38
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Is that still hangover from the guy who put in massive buy orders right before the patch to leverage the lower NPC tax rate? I don't buy plex so I'm not really clear on the current state of the market.
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May 15, 2016 21:53
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Is there really no counterplay to afk cloaked reds in system?
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FranktheBank posted:Is there really no counterplay to afk cloaked reds in system? Fly something with which you don't care whether they're AFK or not. Or just not care even when flying something blingy.
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FranktheBank posted:Is there really no counterplay to afk cloaked reds in system?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:So why exactly have PLEX prices dropped so sharply? Buy orders are now at 865mil. I know it has to do with the latest expansion but I don't understand the market fluctuations. Ambaire posted:Speaking of PLEX, I was looking through the buy orders yesterday and how exactly is this explained? Are they npc buy orders? Because even with margin trading, the people placing those would need a few trillion isk to cover them... https://www.themittani.com/features/plex-wall-incident has your answers
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Otacon posted:https://www.themittani.com/features/plex-wall-incident has your answers I barely understand any of this but Market Fuckery is enough of an explanation. Will the prices gradually go back up or will the new Citadel markets screw with things?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I barely understand any of this but Market Fuckery is enough of an explanation. Until those trades get dropped (in about 80 days, or until someone with a trillion isk tries and fails to complete those orders) the market is pretty much locked. Once those low fake buy orders get cycled through, PLEX will likely increase in cost. At least that's my understanding of what his shenanigans will cause.
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Otacon posted:Until those trades get dropped (in about 80 days, or until someone with a trillion isk tries and fails to complete those orders) the market is pretty much locked. Once those low fake buy orders get cycled through, PLEX will likely increase in cost. you can update orders
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Otacon posted:https://www.themittani.com/features/plex-wall-incident has your answers  I don't even... how? what? or as Shimrra Jamaane said, 'market fuckery'. The most I've done is put up a few sell orders for stuff that had no good buy orders.
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:you can update orders It'd cost him serious isk to do that though
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If you have enough isk that you're in the position to manipulate the market to the tune of hundreds of trillions of isk and you aren't somehow RMTing it all than you're beyond all help. That's potentially hundreds of thousands of real US dollars over the course of how ever long it takes you to dump it all. (Months, years, whatever)
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vyst posted:You can't get it out anymore. That's the problem Yeah, after another read of the article, it appears his 'investment' was the broker fee, which is an isk sink, so it would take him about 7 times as much isk to create those buy orders now than before the patch. I don't really see how he made any money off the whole thing, or can. Edit: I guess the profit was as some comments mentioned, since he made those orders before the patch, anyone making an order after the patch can't make as much profit on the same sell price so if he drives the sell price low enough, he will be the only person on the market making any profit. At least until the fabled 0% broker fee private station thingamajigs. Ambaire fucked around with this message at 02:05 on May 16, 2016 |
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Ambaire posted:Yeah, after another read of the article, it appears his 'investment' was the broker fee, which is an isk sink, so it would take him about 7 times as much isk to create those buy orders now than before the patch. I don't really see how he made any money off the whole thing, or can. No I mean you can't rmt in mass quantities anymore.
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vyst posted:No I mean you can't rmt in mass quantities anymore. I have no idea how it ever worked but couldn't he buy a bazillion plex and sell them for real money at a discount to some shady Russian gaming website or something?
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Whatever anti-RMT measures CCP has aside - he's margin trading so he really only needs enough isk to cover initial collateral + whatever volume he does between logins, assuming his sell orders are filling at roughly the same rate as his buys. If someone showed up with enough plex to fill all of those buy orders I imagine the check would bounce (figuratively speaking of course).
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He probably has them set up so that X are in each wallet division so he can put a limit on someone being able to do that. So it would literally bounce in the same way that margin trading 5 wallet division scams do
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vyst posted:No I mean you can't rmt in mass quantities anymore. you can in items, it's how i would have done it if i happened to rmt.
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Thanks to the folks who offered to loan me l4 ships - got a cheapo maelstrom that's currently doing the trick and will hopefully continue to do so until I pay off my ~benefactor~ and can start buying burner ships. I'm not at the point where I can blitz yet, so I'm running basically everything and I think I'm going to start updating the goonwiki with mission info because eve-survival's format is painful.
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