|
Another Sorcery thing that just came to mind is don't level attunement unless you're levelling it to hit a new slot. Going just short, or just over the attunement needed get a new slot just seems like a huge waste. Personally for my magic builds a good metric of when I need more slots (beyond 2 - you need at least 2, 3 once you got a 2-slot-spell) is when my ashen estus starts filling a whole mana bar. So when your estus gets good enough, increase your mana. Then you'll catch up with it eventually, then increase it again. Internet Kraken posted:I hate to say it but I'm not really feeling my faith build right now. Offensive miracles are garbage. They're the worst they've ever been, and that includes after they nerfed them in Dark Souls 2 and then forgot to un-nerf them. Defensive miracles are okay-ish, but that doesn't really help an invader. I guess the best offensive miracle you could use while invading is Gnaw and better-Gnaw? DatonKallandor fucked around with this message at 23:09 on May 19, 2016 |
#
?
May 19, 2016 23:05
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 16, 2024 12:17 |
|
|
Internet Kraken posted:I hate to say it but I'm not really feeling my faith build right now. Buddy I can barley play as a faith build, let alone invade as one. I've played every souls game(cept bloodborne) as a cleric and I've never been weaker than I am in this game. Even in Demon's where the only offensive miracle was a 5 second cast I had the BLESSED MACE and kicked rear end with that. Here I'm Garbage.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2016 23:15
|
|
|
about what point does Refined start beating Sharp/Heavy for a Quality build anyways?
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2016 23:15
|
|
|
RanKizama posted:I'm currently in the Undead Settlement with my Sorcerer and have been making slow but steady progress with a consistent baiting technique. Am I doing this right? I'm not dying much, but holy poo poo does it feel like I'm making slow advancements. Cheesing enemies from range is going to be your bread and butter until you reach the next area which gives you a spell that lets you break most of the game and cheese from melee.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2016 23:20
|
|
|
Tequila Sunrise posted:Seems more like a continuation of a cycle (veteran handing down duties to novice) than pandering. Half of the NPCs are copy and pasted from other FromSoftware games. I'm glad the series is being put to bed, Bloodborne demonstrated that they still have plenty of great ideas to explore.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2016 23:21
|
|
|
DatonKallandor posted:Offensive miracles are garbage. They're the worst they've ever been, and that includes after they nerfed them in Dark Souls 2 and then forgot to un-nerf them. Defensive miracles are okay-ish, but that doesn't really help an invader. I guess the best offensive miracle you could use while invading is Gnaw and better-Gnaw? That's not true at all. The lightning spears, lightning stake, and wog all do fantastic damage. They do require you to stack damage bonuses and have high faith, but that seems to be how they've designed magic to work in this game so 
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2016 23:27
|
|
|
Do any of them have casting animations that don't take an eternity though? I haven't gotten any lightning spear beyond the basic one.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2016 23:28
|
|
|
Genocyber posted:That's not true at all. The lightning spears, lightning stake, and wog all do fantastic damage. They do require you to stack damage bonuses and have high faith, but that seems to be how they've designed magic to work in this game so I do more damage hitting a dude with a sword once than with lightning spear, and I don't need to stack rings for that. And it also happens faster. And doesn't cost FP. Or a non-physical comparison, any of the sorceror arrow-line spells do better damage, for better cast time, for less FP. Hell I'm not sure bow-and-arrow doesn't do more damage if you're specced for it. Which is very interesting now by the way. Bows have a rolling attack! DatonKallandor fucked around with this message at 23:47 on May 19, 2016 |
|
#
?
May 19, 2016 23:37
|
|
|
Golden Goat posted:What does the Dragon Torso Stone do besides make you look ridiculous? Neuters your defenses (because now you have no armor. And actively gives you negative lightning resist to boot), gives you a useless special attack you can trigger by using the stone as an item that you will never hit with. Technically it gives you a buff when you use said attack, but good luck making use of it, it's pretty short duration. I was really hoping From would take a page from the beast claws and give us a similar dragon weapon that got a rad moveset when you went full dragaboo with it. Sadly not to be.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2016 23:45
|
|
|
Obligatum VII posted:Neuters your defenses (because now you have no armor. And actively gives you negative lightning resist to boot), gives you a useless special attack you can trigger by using the stone as an item that you will never hit with. Technically it gives you a buff when you use said attack, but good luck making use of it, it's pretty short duration. Or at least do the DS1 thing and give you bare fists with 400 AR.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2016 23:47
|
|
|
The regular stone roar either always breaks guard or does a ton of stamina damage but I never have time to riposte off it.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2016 23:59
|
|
|
In the DLC you get 2 new covenant stickers. 1 of them makes dragonskins cool and practical and they have a new look that is not emaciated. The other 1 gives you a blob for a head and improves sorcery and miracles. Unrelated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucBFyHbR63w
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:00
|
|
|
You know what, Nameless king is entirely optional and I can be happy leaving it be  I am highly confident I could get myself through it if I could fight the King himself fresh, but I just have a really bad handle on dealing with two highly distinct phases. And I have poor enough dodging instincts as it is with the camera not making me need to use psychic powers to evade the king's weapon even without lock ons. And my attacks both vertical and horizontal wiffing the dragon's head and neck by a micrometer. gently caress you, you were stationary breathing fire. Why the gently caress is even a leaping attack launched after I was running in place against your neck "Missing" you when it sweeps through your horns you fucker. Hitboxes are ever my archnemesis, I had to learn Dragon Dad's hitboxes more than his attacks to beat him in the consumed garden. After that it was a simple matter of jousting him to death. So I'm always down to half estus or so when I beat the dragon, and so I fall short against the King. Because in the first phase no matter how I twist and turn the camera he will always spiral around and launch his spears or swings when he no longer on screen, between me literally rubbing up against the dragon and still, somehow, having my sword swings harmlessly wiff them. It's so strange because I'm more just disappointed, than anything. When I was fighting the champ, even when I was on the ropes and he was kicking me in the face, I had a handle of what I was doing wrong, what I could do better, could tell what he was going to use. So that made the rematch turn out in my favor, if still low on estus. Here? I feel in more danger of the hitboxes and camera, and I just suuuuuuck at dealing with those in the first phase. So even though I'm able to chug my estus literally in the King's face without getting hit in the second phase when I really need to, my mere mildly above average self can't hack the back to back. I'll just take solace in handling the Dancer and Champ reasonably on round two with a Flamberge. Or maybe I'll come back later and Co-Op him to death.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:02
|
|
|
Million Ghosts posted:about what point does Refined start beating Sharp/Heavy for a Quality build anyways? For already quality weapons it's around 20/20, for more (read very) specialized weapons I'd like to believe it's around 25/25. Thing is refined scales well up to 40/40, so pure stat number-wise it's like investing in 80 str/dex, but with much less diminishing returns. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 00:12 on May 20, 2016 |
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:09
|
|
|
Section Z posted:You know what, Nameless king is entirely optional and I can be happy leaving it be What got me through the first phase of Nameless King was realizing that, hey wait a second - he's a loving dragon. What's good against Dragons? Lightning. Something with range, and lightning....no, not a miracle, that'd be silly. Something any chump can use: The Knights Crossbow. Half Lightning, Half Physical - all Dragon-killing in a can for basically no stat requirement. It doesn't even use exotic upgrade materials. Slap some lightning bolts on that thing and go to town on that flying rear end in a top hat - the lock-on even shoots him right in the head. Both Crossbow and Bolts sold by Greirat. Crossbow also drops off Lothric Knights (like the Blue one next to the Dancer boss room).
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:11
|
|
|
Doubled like a bad DS2 boss.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:12
|
|
|
DatonKallandor posted:What got me through the first phase of Nameless King was realizing that, hey wait a second - he's a loving dragon. What's good against Dragons? Lightning. Something with range, and lightning....no, not a miracle, that'd be silly. Something any chump can use: I've had several of those collecting dust in my storage for ages. So I will keep this in mind for later, thanks!  He's not going anywhere, and I still have the majority of Lothric Castle to get through (along with finding where poor Greirat ended up  )I wish I could be consistently good in these games. "Oh hey cool I beat the Dancer and Champ when I actually remembered to ember. That means I'm finally good right  guess not"Getting flashbacks to taking out Artorias and Kalameet on the first try, and then getting my poo poo pushed in when I went back to try and farm silver knights for their shield.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:18
|
|
|
Section Z posted:You know what, Nameless king is entirely optional and I can be happy leaving it be Alright, I'm not sure I should speak about this because I never managed to beat the second phase. But, there's a trick to the first phase that makes it pretty easy to get through using maybe one or two estus: Stand in the absolutely stupidest place possible. Don't stand in the smart place under the dragon, don't try to flank it or attack from its blind spot. Stand right in front of its head where the claws and the teeth and the firebreath are. If you're standing right in front of it, it'll basically do one of four things: 1.Launch itself straight up and then breath down. Just run away and run back. You might be able to get one running attack off on its head when it lands. 2.Vault over your head. King might stab at you with the spear after this, so be on your toes. I wouldn't go for the attack after this. 3.Breath fire. Dodge twice towards it and then start slicing at the neck. You should be able to get a bunch of damage while it's doing this, and maybe even stagger it for the riposte. 4.Lower its head so the king can stab at you. Just dodge towards it once and then basically try to slice at the neck, he'll do 1-3 slices but if you're under the neck they shouldn't hit you. He might do the whole fly in a circle and lightning you at the beginning of the fight, so just try to dodge the lightning bolt and then dodge under him when he comes at you, but after that you should be golden to stay right in front of him. I got very good at this phase because I stubbornly tried to kill the king over and over in dragonman mode and never managed it. So, good luck.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:21
|
|
|
Million Ghosts posted:about what point does Refined start beating Sharp/Heavy for a Quality build anyways? Depends entirely on the weapon, there are weapons which always do more damage as sharp than refined for example (sellsword twinblades, exile GS) OTOH there are some weapons which do more damage as refined even when you only have the base stats needed to use them.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:25
|
|
|
So over half my level 30 invasions in crucifixion woods are into Gank squads or people speed running to the boss. Then I got invaded by a parry spammer, who I repeatedly kicked (and could never riposte for some reason), jump attacked , etc and had to wear out their estus because parrying can't be punished well enough. Hitting through one should give counterattack damage at least.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:25
|
|
|
Section Z posted:You know what, Nameless king is entirely optional and I can be happy leaving it be For the first phase, always be closing distance with the dragon. I found that staying at range made him use his fire attack a whole bunch and I found that too hard to avoid. For other attacks, I found that dodging towards him tended to work better, especially on the King's melee attacks. After that, the second phase is just a matter of well timed and very careful dodging. I used ricard's rapier and I can remember the shield. I found blocking his attacks basically set me up for getting crushed by a combo. He's very quick, so if you're having trouble I'd also recommend just spending some time watching his attack pattern.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:27
|
|
|
I can't stop laughing at this. It makes me feel like it's the climactic battle at the end of a long movie and one swordsman says something like "So it has come to this. Now, finally, we can match blades in a.." and then the other dudes just swings his stupid magic sword a hundred times and kills him instantly.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:33
|
|
|
Anyone experiencing weird pathing bugs after the patch? Specifically with dog enemies? Usually, they see me, then vanish, then appear in the air and fall continuously. Here's what it looks like: 
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:35
|
|
|
Section Z posted:You know what, Nameless king is entirely optional and I can be happy leaving it be I just took them down solo (anri's sword) last night after 5-6 tries/embers. SO pumped. The Carthus ring which gives you extra I-Frames is huge. I could dodge through the fire breaths and only take one hit. That ring is neat! I also wore the best- worst outfit exclusively based on Lightning and Fire resists (35%ish). Keep at it! 
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:37
|
|
|
mastershakeman posted:So over half my level 30 invasions in crucifixion woods are into Gank squads or people speed running to the boss. What I like to do to parry spammers is do one or two running R1's to fool them into a rhythm, and then I run up to them (they invariably attempt to parry the R1 they see coming) and keep going right to their back and backstab them.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:37
|
|
|
flowinprose posted:What I like to do to parry spammers is do one or two running R1's to fool them into a rhythm, and then I run up to them (they invariably attempt to parry the R1 they see coming) and keep going right to their back and backstab them. They would parry and instaroll right after, it was insane. The fact is unless you're running a high crit build yourself you have no ability to reliably punish I mean imagine missing a dozen parries on mobs mastershakeman fucked around with this message at 00:52 on May 20, 2016 |
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:47
|
|
|
Grondoth posted:Buddy I can barley play as a faith build, let alone invade as one. I've played every souls game(cept bloodborne) as a cleric and I've never been weaker than I am in this game. Even in Demon's where the only offensive miracle was a 5 second cast I had the BLESSED MACE and kicked rear end with that. Here I'm Garbage. Yeah I'm the same. Starting a Souls game blind with a faith build has been a tradition of mine since Demon's, and for whatever reason - maybe I had a subconscious premonition that it would suck - I rolled a mercenary for DS3 instead of a cleric or herald and didn't look back. DS3's the game that finally broke my fascination with faith builds and got me into barebones quality builds.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:47
|
|
|
I finally started invading today. Pretty good fun. My favorite invade was the mythical lone first time host. He missed the Bon fire before the cathedral and was heading to the roof. Almost felt bad for knocking him to his doom. 
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:52
|
|
|
DatonKallandor posted:Soul Greatsword would be a such a good rat-killer if it had hyperarmor or poise worked. In DS3 the most dangerous enemies are the grotesquely malnourished dudes who can caper about and spam their lovely broken shivs. Giant fully armored knights w/buffed big weapon? Nah they're slow and you can poise break them with strong language.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:52
|
|
|
mastershakeman posted:So over half my level 30 invasions in crucifixion woods are into Gank squads or people speed running to the boss. Curved sword spin attack art can't be parried and comes out fast and can be done directly from a run, roll, etc. so as soon as you see them start to fish for a parry you can just bait them with a roll into their face or similar and spin the poo poo out of them  I cannot stress strongly enough how loving good the sellsword twinblades are at everything, I'm going to be sad when they inevitably get nerfed and probably lose all their ability to chain attacks together.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:53
|
|
|
Thanks for all the advice and encouragement guys. I figure I'll regain some confidence and clear more of the main game first before I throw myself back at him, but I WILL be throwing myself back at him before the end.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:54
|
|
|
RabidWeasel posted:Curved sword spin attack art can't be parried and comes out fast and can be done directly from a run, roll, etc. so as soon as you see them start to fish for a parry you can just bait them with a roll into their face or similar and spin the poo poo out of them Demon Fist spin is also really fun in PvP. Especially when you can somehow land the launcher part of it.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:56
|
|
|
DatonKallandor posted:Hell I'm not sure bow-and-arrow doesn't do more damage if you're specced for it. Which is very interesting now by the way. Bows have a rolling attack! bow + arrow definitely does more dps and more damage per shot than anything but sunlight spear (which is gotten from the final boss anyways so its vaguely moot) also sunlight spear costs a fuckton of FP and still has less DPS while doing about 100-200 more damage with 55 FTH and all rings equipped on a +10 talisman so yeah this is discounting the melee range bonus of course but then that goes back to the 'why on earth are you standing point blank throwing lightning spears at them when you could cast lightning blade or any of the other three weapon buffs for miracles as to probably outdamage lightning spears by 3x in the same amount of time with way more safety' GulagDolls posted:looks viable to me i guess some cheatengine thing got released w/ this because i've been seeing this kinda stuff a whole lot all of a sudden it's funny seeing a guy float around gesturing shooting forbidden suns like megaman pellets though Fereydun fucked around with this message at 01:00 on May 20, 2016 |
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:57
|
|
|
Night Blade posted:Anyone experiencing weird pathing bugs after the patch? Specifically with dog enemies? Yep, I had a dog land on my head out of nowhere. He seemed just as surprised by it as I was though.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 00:58
|
|
|
Anyone on PS4 wanna trade for Shackles? We can just invade back n forth with a password. I'm just tryna get my Pyro cheevos. I am 71 by the Pontiff's bonfire PSN: Monkrocker Message me.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 01:00
|
|
|
Question: Why is there sometimes a pitchfork undead farmer in the skeleton tunnel near Velka and sometimes there's not?
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 01:01
|
|
|
So I had a thought about the offensive Miracles doing more damage up close and why that is. Now whether it's good or bad is not what I'm discussing because it's absolutely bad right now, what I'm thinking about is all the offensive Miracle users in the lore that I can think of tend to be heavily armoured fighters who get up close and personal anyway. Like Gwyn, Nameless King, Solaire, Seigward and so on and so forth seem to all favour being up close and personal anyway so perhaps that's the secret to playing offensive Miracle user. Of course without working poise being up close and personal to cast magic is dumb and bad anyway but this is just a thought I had.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 01:06
|
|
|
HaB posted:Anyone on PS4 wanna trade for Shackles? We can just invade back n forth with a password. I'm just tryna get my Pyro cheevos. I am 71 by the Pontiff's bonfire I'm down if we can get tongues the same way.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 01:07
|
|
|
Dr. Tim Whatley posted:I'm down if we can get tongues the same way. I can't think of why not. What's the reward for Fingers? miracle or sorcery?
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 01:10
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 16, 2024 12:17 |
|
|
HaB posted:I can't think of why not. What's the reward for Fingers? miracle or sorcery? They get the obscuring ring at 10 and a worthless catalyst at 30.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2016 01:11
|
|