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Dave mentioned that the reason Steph never gets her comeuppance is that she has to appear as this awesome businesswoman because she's basically taking over he company when Vince steps down. Putting a couple of threads together from other observers, it's like this: He could afford to look dumb and get beaten because the stockholders trust him to run it--too much, to the point where they don't trust anyone BUT him to run it. So their reasoning is apparently that Steph has to appear smart in the worked aspect of the business so that stockholders trust her to run the actual business when her father legit steps down. It's just like...wtf. I feel insane just typing that out.
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May 18, 2016 05:37
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I stopped being surprised by that kind of mentality when I first heard HHH wouldn't let his character be seen taking a finisher in TV ads for the official games. Vince seems like the only one who didn't mind looking vulnerable (at least for the Austin feud)
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May 18, 2016 05:39
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Captain Magic posted:Dave mentioned that the reason Steph never gets her comeuppance is that she has to appear as this awesome businesswoman because she's basically taking over he company when Vince steps down. Putting a couple of threads together from other observers, it's like this: He could afford to look dumb and get beaten because the stockholders trust him to run it--too much, to the point where they don't trust anyone BUT him to run it. So their reasoning is apparently that Steph has to appear smart in the worked aspect of the business so that stockholders trust her to run the actual business when her father legit steps down. Then why the gently caress isn't she a babyface? She did the job of Babyface Boss Character just fine during her GM of Smackdown run when she was feuding with Obvious Heel Eric Bischoff. I remember her being quite popular in that role actually, which is shocking considering how evil she'd been prior to that. A heel that never gets comeuppance is TV Poison, Vince should know that better than anyone and she should too.
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May 18, 2016 05:42
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why not just write her off tv if that's really a problem
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May 18, 2016 05:50
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:why not just write her off tv if that's really a problem But then she would have the problem of not being on TV
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May 18, 2016 05:53
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Captain Magic posted:It's just like...wtf. I feel insane just typing that out. If there is one thing you can depend on more than the petty vindictiveness of Vince McMahon, it's the short-sighted stupidity of stockholders.
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May 18, 2016 06:00
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never forget that there were people who heard about the limo explosion and thought that vince was actually dead
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May 18, 2016 06:02
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Captain Magic posted:Dave mentioned that the reason Steph never gets her comeuppance is that she has to appear as this awesome businesswoman because she's basically taking over he company when Vince steps down. Putting a couple of threads together from other observers, it's like this: He could afford to look dumb and get beaten because the stockholders trust him to run it--too much, to the point where they don't trust anyone BUT him to run it. So their reasoning is apparently that Steph has to appear smart in the worked aspect of the business so that stockholders trust her to run the actual business when her father legit steps down. I simply don't believe this, and think Dave was editorializing, rather than reporting scoops. Seven weeks ago, HHH and Steph cut a promo saying the fans have nothing to live for, will lose their house and kids and should commit suicide. HHH and Steph aren't written with stockholders in mind. They don't show rear end because they don't want to.
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May 18, 2016 06:03
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mkay0 posted:Seven weeks ago, HHH and Steph cut a promo saying the fans have nothing to live for, will lose their house and kids and should commit suicide the stockholders agree with this and are banking on it
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May 18, 2016 06:18
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mkay0 posted:Seven weeks ago, HHH and Steph cut a promo saying the fans have nothing to live for The only honest thing they've ever publicly said
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May 18, 2016 06:21
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Episode 7 of Sidewalk Slam up after some computer issues, covering post-Mania Raws to Payback.
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May 18, 2016 06:21
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ParanoidInc posted:never forget that there were people who heard about the limo explosion and thought that vince was actually dead they freaked out when trump bought raw too lol
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May 18, 2016 06:46
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Look, the stock holders are not very smart.
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May 18, 2016 08:16
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yea ok posted:they freaked out when trump bought raw too lol Didn't the stock price legitimately drop the day after they announced trump "bought" the WWE?
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May 18, 2016 11:13
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Capsaicin posted:Granny segments in 2006: Dancing with the Stars Updates I love Dave's enthusiasm for DWTS, he treats it so seriously
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triplexpac posted:I love Dave's enthusiasm for DWTS, he treats it so seriously
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May 18, 2016 13:13
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Onmi posted:Look, the stock holders are not very smart. Though I agree that it was Dave editorializing. Good investors don't buy stocks they're emotionally invested in, and bad investors should be ignored, and the majority of non-Vince stockholders are banks and investment groups, anyway.
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May 18, 2016 14:19
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Bryan talking about HBK the first black WWE champ is hilarious to me
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May 18, 2016 17:21
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Sanguinia posted:Then why the gently caress isn't she a babyface? She did the job of Babyface Boss Character just fine during her GM of Smackdown run when she was feuding with Obvious Heel Eric Bischoff. I remember her being quite popular in that role actually, which is shocking considering how evil she'd been prior to that. A heel that never gets comeuppance is TV Poison, Vince should know that better than anyone and she should too. Steph was pretty bad as a babyface, because she made it all about how hot she was. Remember that one episode of Smackdown opened with a shot of her rear end in a tight skirt and there was once a whole promo segment devoted to John Cena rapping about wanting to bone her.
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May 18, 2016 18:55
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Gaz-L posted:Steph was pretty bad as a babyface, because she made it all about how hot she was. Remember that one episode of Smackdown opened with a shot of her rear end in a tight skirt and there was once a whole promo segment devoted to John Cena rapping about wanting to bone her. This seems better than what she's doing now in basically every possible way.
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May 18, 2016 19:10
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Just now hearing B&V on Global Wars ... worked boobs
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Gaz-L posted:Steph was pretty bad as a babyface, because she made it all about how hot she was. Remember that one episode of Smackdown opened with a shot of her rear end in a tight skirt and there was once a whole promo segment devoted to John Cena rapping about wanting to bone her. My memory for that period can't get past the (amazing) Smackdown Halloween Special, where they did a skit where Eric Bischoff showed up in a Vince McMahon mask and then made out with Stephanie 
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May 19, 2016 03:41
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Observer is out and Dave didn't even cover Zandig's return.
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May 19, 2016 03:43
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MassRafTer posted:Observer is out and Dave didn't even cover Zandig's return.
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achillesforever6 posted:Dave fears Ultraviolence Yet somehow EVOLVE and its twenty fans deserve coverage.
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May 19, 2016 03:56
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mkay0 posted:I simply don't believe this, and think Dave was editorializing, rather than reporting scoops. The real question is did HHH just kill a WM main event on purpose or via ineptitude?
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May 19, 2016 07:06
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coconono posted:The real question is did HHH just kill a WM main event on purpose or via ineptitude? I believe it can be both. Wanting to make Roman not look amazing so later he can say he flounders, why did Vince pick him; but also not understanding what an audience wants in a main event match sounds very him.
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May 19, 2016 07:31
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Wazzu posted:I believe it can be both. Wanting to make Roman not look amazing so later he can say he flounders, why did Vince pick him; but also not understanding what an audience wants in a main event match sounds very him. Didn't Meltzer say that Triple H wanted Reigns as the guy? and Vince wanted to pick Big E as the next guy?
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May 19, 2016 07:54
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Look at some of his stuff with Shawn Michaels. HHH thinks long ponderous "epics" are what makes for a good match, and maybe sometimes he's right, but sometimes the best choice for all concerned is to let the energetic baby-face squash the heel. Though I can understand why he in particular might feel a bit triggered when that idea is mentioned.
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May 19, 2016 08:27
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WadeBartender posted:Didn't Meltzer say that Triple H wanted Reigns as the guy? and Vince wanted to pick Big E as the next guy? Vince would give what was left of his soul to combine the looks of Reigns with the everything else of Big E
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May 19, 2016 08:42
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remusclaw posted:Look at some of his stuff with Shawn Michaels. HHH thinks long ponderous "epics" are what makes for a good match, and maybe sometimes he's right, but sometimes the best choice for all concerned is to let the energetic baby-face squash the heel. Though I can understand why he in particular might feel a bit triggered when that idea is mentioned. I think that awful match was HHH's idea of great. He was wrong. Reigns is both Vince and HHH's guy. HHH actually thought he was doing good by Reigns by putting on that snooze fest with him. Somehow, every time Vince or HHH get anywhere near Reigns, they make him worse. And while I adore Big E, when he started on the main roster he was injuring himself and others quite a bit and was kind of a lousy promo. Anyone remember his IC run? He was almost entirely forgettable, except for his PPV match against Rusev where he did awesome USA promos, before his New Day run.
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"gently caress the New Day" - D. Meltzer
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Rodney the Piper posted:"gently caress the New Day" - D. Meltzer Dave: How long do you think it would take America Alpha... Bryan: A week. Dave: Not to get over, but to be ready for the championship. Bryan: Oh! Well in that case.... two weeks.
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May 19, 2016 22:37
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Jerusalem posted:Dave: How long do you think it would take America Alpha... What they need to do is call up Revival because they're the best heel tag team in years. They may be the only team on either roster than can actually get heat with WWE's audience. They're not so entertaining its impossible to dislike them, they're not so underpushed that the audience will refuse to dislike them when they find success, they're not indy darlings the audience wants to succeed and thus will cheer relentlessly, and they're not such jobbers that they'll have no credibility if they start winning out of nowhere. Let Alpha run with the belts for 6-7 months in NXT while Revival tears apart the New Day without a shred of mercy or remorse and then brag about it relentlessly. They'll actually be boo'd and people will WANT to see someone beat them. Crazy, right?
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Sanguinia posted:Let Alpha run with the belts for 6-7 months in NXT while Revival tears apart the New Day without a shred of mercy or remorse and then brag about it relentlessly. They'll actually be boo'd and people will WANT to see someone beat them. Crazy, right? This would be amazing and I hope it happens.
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May 20, 2016 02:12
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Sanguinia posted:What they need to do is call up Revival because they're the best heel tag team in years. They may be the only team on either roster than can actually get heat with WWE's audience. Please give them a new name first. Definitely not their old name either.
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May 20, 2016 03:45
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Just call 'em SAY YEAH
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May 20, 2016 04:28
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AlmightyPants posted:I think that awful match was HHH's idea of great. He was wrong. It seemed like HHH wanted a match sort of like Punk/Cena in Chicago at MITB, where the crowd would come in obviously crazy anti-Cena but, due to great wrestling, would slowly be won over to his side a little bit. The problem is that Cena and Punk are/were world class wrestlers who can be explosive and sympathetic enough to make that happen. HHH is too methodical for that sort of match and works as a better opponent than a competitor, if that makes any sense, and Reigns just plain isn't good/seasoned enough to make that work (though I think he's pretty capable as a wrestler overall). Anyway I think HHH isn't as stubborn as Vince and realized he was wrong about Reigns a while ago and was trying to do the best he knew how. You can look at NXT and see the willingness to drop guys or rework them when they're not working at all.
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Captain Magic posted:It seemed like HHH wanted a match sort of like Punk/Cena in Chicago at MITB, where the crowd would come in obviously crazy anti-Cena but, due to great wrestling, would slowly be won over to his side a little bit. HHH also isn't nearly as good as he thinks he is, especially at this stage of his career, and he hasn't been able to carry lesser/more limited workers in over 10 years.
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