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evilweasel posted:do wardecs do something in lowsec? station guns were mulching their fighters 
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Glory of Arioch posted:station guns were mulching their fighters I guess we didn't take into account the unbridled fury  of the marmite collective.
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May 22, 2016 21:45
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Xolve posted:I guess we didn't take into account the unbridled fury this is pretty unrelated to my point but okay
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May 22, 2016 21:53
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I feel like you should have to declare a Concord war to get sovereignty involved as well. After all, as far as the 'world' is concerned the whole sovereignty mechanic is under the guise of "transmitting to concord that you own this space". Not to mention it makes sense on a lot of other levels with regards to the mechanics of it all. The only exception is it shouldn't take 24 hours to declare war. Instead it should be like, 3 or something so you can actually get a surprise attack going.
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May 22, 2016 21:59
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People were undocking in empty pods to tank MBC sec statuses.
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May 22, 2016 22:10
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CainFortea posted:People were undocking in empty pods to tank MBC sec statuses. Most of us are already outlaws 
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May 22, 2016 22:14
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CainFortea posted:People were undocking in empty pods to tank MBC sec statuses. Why? So they couldnt go to jita or run missions any more?
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May 22, 2016 22:14
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Xolve posted:Most of us are already outlaws It's a no lose thing to do? Doesn't cost you anything and doesn't risk anything but it gives you a chance that the attacker might die to station guns or get caught in hs randomly in future, no guarantee but if you have nothing else to do why not
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May 22, 2016 22:29
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Sunber posted:It's a no lose thing to do? Doesn't cost you anything and doesn't risk anything but it gives you a chance that the attacker might die to station guns or get caught in hs randomly in future, no guarantee but if you have nothing else to do why not You can buy sec status to repair it instantly. Most of these people are already outlaws to begin with.
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May 22, 2016 22:33
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Xolve posted:Most of us are already outlaws Average sec status of PL is -1.0. Hardly outlaws.
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May 22, 2016 22:36
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CainFortea posted:Average sec status of PL is -1.0. Hardly outlaws. All those Black Legion nerds joined at 5.1 or whatever, just give them time to adjust.
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May 22, 2016 22:42
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So it looks like by the end of the night, there will be no sov structures owned by goons.
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May 22, 2016 22:57
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YouTuber posted:You can buy sec status to repair it instantly. Most of these people are already outlaws to begin with. Most but not all, and I'm assuming that it's not just PL that are shooting the pods either. Also yes you can buy tags to fix your sec, and if you're tanking it by shooting empty pods then buying tags then more fool you and the people you're shooting win
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May 22, 2016 23:01
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LemonDrizzle posted:So it looks like by the end of the night, there will be no sov structures owned by goons. Nah there are some that weren't already reinforced so those can't be taken today.
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May 22, 2016 23:12
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Sunber posted:Most but not all, and I'm assuming that it's not just PL that are shooting the pods either. Also yes you can buy tags to fix your sec, and if you're tanking it by shooting empty pods then buying tags then more fool you and the people you're shooting win Interestingly enough, most of the pods aren't empty and actually worth more than whatever worthless ship they were forcibly removed from. We bagged a HG Slave set last night and quite a few +5s. It's not exactly the most rewarding gameplay, but we just movie night on comms and shoot dudes on the undock which overall is a pretty good time. Sunber posted:Most but not all, and I'm assuming that it's not just PL that are shooting the pods either. Also yes you can buy tags to fix your sec, and if you're tanking it by shooting empty pods then buying tags then more fool you and the people you're shooting win I have an emergency set of tags incase I everfind myself in a situation that requires burning a larger ship through highsec to do a 'thing'. They're not expensive at all, so sure those dead pods win I guess.
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May 22, 2016 23:14
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Didn't want that sec status anyway? Already replaced?
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May 22, 2016 23:30
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Dr. Pangloss posted:Didn't want that sec status anyway? this, but seriously
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May 22, 2016 23:31
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Xolve posted:Most of us are already outlaws Don't you still have to be -10 to be in snigg or am I still living in the last decade?
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May 22, 2016 23:36
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Vando posted:Don't you still have to be -10 to be in snigg or am I still living in the last decade? the alliance ticker is -10.0 you'll end up there pretty fast playing in lowsec
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May 22, 2016 23:39
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Vando posted:Don't you still have to be -10 to be in snigg or am I still living in the last decade? That's not a thing that has been said, or taken, seriously.
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May 22, 2016 23:41
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we'll fix our sec status by ratting with supers across the north i guess
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May 22, 2016 23:43
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Unfunny Poster posted:That's not a thing that has been said, or taken, seriously. I'm talking like 2006 here so it might be just a thing from the Amamake days
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May 22, 2016 23:43
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SperginMcBadposter posted:Nah there are some that weren't already reinforced so those can't be taken today. I don't see any. It looks like the last TCU comes out of reinforced mode at 22:44 Eve time in MQ-NPY, after they get done capturing that, which should take about 1h15m assuming they have lots of hackers spread through the constellation, then Goonswarm Federation will not have any Sov structures in Null Sec whatsoever. Ding Dong the witch is dead and what-not.
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May 22, 2016 23:44
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War Eagle posted:I don't see any. It looks like the last TCU comes out of reinforced mode at 22:44 Eve time in MQ-NPY, after they get done capturing that, which should take about 1h15m assuming they have lots of hackers spread through the constellation, then Goonswarm Federation will not have any Sov structures in Null Sec whatsoever. Ding Dong the witch is dead and what-not. Ahh ok I was counting systems that had ihubs too. They have 5 systems left if you count those: 
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May 22, 2016 23:49
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We lost a carrier in our home wormhole yesterday, the guy warped it in to a 30 man svipul fleet (in a WR...) before his apostle landed it and it done got blowned up. We were all nice and depressed, then by pure chance our scout jumped into a C4 and saw a few ships sitting on the back so we killed them, turned out to be loving Mordus Angels and hole control? Blew them up (couple of T2 Cruisers and a tengu), then our scout in nullsec reports a thanatos sitting on a gate in a bubble. At this point the fleet has so much momentum we've got four guardians, two vindicators, two machs and a bunch of other poo poo so we jump out and kill this guy. https://zkillboard.com/kill/54156025/ As we're all laughing and thinking about how we went from losing a thanny to killing a bunch of poo poo this idiot jumps into us and after a bit of jumping and bubble decloaking action he eats it as well. ~just wormhole days~
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May 23, 2016 00:01
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nah dude my combat stratios can totally be fit for hacking sites to make that sweet sweet money while not killing uh uh oh.
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May 23, 2016 00:11
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Xolve posted:Today I logged into something weird. How much does it cost a week to maintain a wardec against that many people?
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May 23, 2016 00:19
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xilni posted:How much does it cost a week to maintain a wardec against that many people? iirc all six of those should be at the max member count for the wardec formula so 3b/week
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May 23, 2016 00:26
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I guess now is not the time for me to resub and log my Wyvern back in.
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May 23, 2016 00:30
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Last TCU is dead  http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Goonswarm_Federation/structures 
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May 23, 2016 00:37
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Freed from the shackles of Sov ownership, or something.
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May 23, 2016 00:52
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didn't want that space anyways
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May 23, 2016 01:00
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So what's the next step then since we no longer hold sov? I haven't been on much lately but it seems like we're eating poo poo constantly and getting laughed at by the rest of Eve. I know Aegis sov is loving dumb but it's pretty demoralizing to not seem to be making any headway or doing anything meaningful besides interceptor fleets and stealth bombers. I know some people enjoy that but is it really accomplishing anything? I feel like we'll never be able to project force like we used to with PL camping all of our old super staging space. I guess I'd just like to know there is some kind of plan because poo poo seems like it's getting old and I'm debating whether or not to let all my accounts lapse when they are up in a few months.
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May 23, 2016 01:06
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Huge_Midget posted:So what's the next step then since we no longer hold sov? I haven't been on much lately but it seems like we're eating poo poo constantly and getting laughed at by the rest of Eve. I know Aegis sov is loving dumb but it's pretty demoralizing to not seem to be making any headway or doing anything meaningful besides interceptor fleets and stealth bombers. I know some people enjoy that but is it really accomplishing anything? I feel like we'll never be able to project force like we used to with PL camping all of our old super staging space. I guess I'd just like to know there is some kind of plan because poo poo seems like it's getting old and I'm debating whether or not to let all my accounts lapse when they are up in a few months. You have to listen to the fireside chats - dear leader will explain that we are attrition attrition attrition.
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May 23, 2016 01:08
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Huge_Midget posted:So what's the next step then since we no longer hold sov? I haven't been on much lately but it seems like we're eating poo poo constantly and getting laughed at by the rest of Eve. I know Aegis sov is loving dumb but it's pretty demoralizing to not seem to be making any headway or doing anything meaningful besides interceptor fleets and stealth bombers. I know some people enjoy that but is it really accomplishing anything? I feel like we'll never be able to project force like we used to with PL camping all of our old super staging space. I guess I'd just like to know there is some kind of plan because poo poo seems like it's getting old and I'm debating whether or not to let all my accounts lapse when they are up in a few months. I think the thinking is that all the attacking parties will leave and the north will be reclaimed by the end of the year that being said those same authorities said the attacking parties would falter by the end of April, and that hasn't happened
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May 23, 2016 01:09
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Huge_Midget posted:So what's the next step then since we no longer hold sov? I haven't been on much lately but it seems like we're eating poo poo constantly and getting laughed at by the rest of Eve. I know Aegis sov is loving dumb but it's pretty demoralizing to not seem to be making any headway or doing anything meaningful besides interceptor fleets and stealth bombers. I know some people enjoy that but is it really accomplishing anything? I feel like we'll never be able to project force like we used to with PL camping all of our old super staging space. I guess I'd just like to know there is some kind of plan because poo poo seems like it's getting old and I'm debating whether or not to let all my accounts lapse when they are up in a few months. There's plenty of poo poo to do. I'm having fun being MOA 2.1
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May 23, 2016 01:10
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Huge_Midget posted:So what's the next step then since we no longer hold sov? I haven't been on much lately but it seems like we're eating poo poo constantly and getting laughed at by the rest of Eve. I know Aegis sov is loving dumb but it's pretty demoralizing to not seem to be making any headway or doing anything meaningful besides interceptor fleets and stealth bombers. I know some people enjoy that but is it really accomplishing anything? I feel like we'll never be able to project force like we used to with PL camping all of our old super staging space. I guess I'd just like to know there is some kind of plan because poo poo seems like it's getting old and I'm debating whether or not to let all my accounts lapse when they are up in a few months. The next step is PL staying in 93PI living happily ever after with Goons. PL and Goonswarm bestest bros forever and ever <3 <3 <3
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May 23, 2016 01:10
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Huge_Midget posted:So what's the next step then since we no longer hold sov? I haven't been on much lately but it seems like we're eating poo poo constantly and getting laughed at by the rest of Eve. I know Aegis sov is loving dumb but it's pretty demoralizing to not seem to be making any headway or doing anything meaningful besides interceptor fleets and stealth bombers. I know some people enjoy that but is it really accomplishing anything? I feel like we'll never be able to project force like we used to with PL camping all of our old super staging space. I guess I'd just like to know there is some kind of plan because poo poo seems like it's getting old and I'm debating whether or not to let all my accounts lapse when they are up in a few months. Join a wormhole corp like hole squad
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May 23, 2016 01:12
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I'm actually surprised it took PL this amount of time to push the wardec button. It's helpful to their undock carrier camps as querns said so it is weird that it took them this long. I feel like PL believes that they can... kill goons. Like they can do to us what they did to Brave. It's just not going to happen -- there is a grip of us who will just wait and I tend to think that group will still be there waiting when they get bored and start thinking about moving around. Their entire endgame can't be "let's camp a few hundred goons in station for a year." Seems silly. I'm willing to concede defeat in the war I guess, but if their objective is to kill us all off or make us all scatter to other corps the only people who are scattering, more and more, are proving to be the ones who just were around for the ticks and good times. Like my best friend and sponsor, apparently 
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Huge_Midget posted:So what's the next step then since we no longer hold sov? I haven't been on much lately but it seems like we're eating poo poo constantly and getting laughed at by the rest of Eve. I know Aegis sov is loving dumb but it's pretty demoralizing to not seem to be making any headway or doing anything meaningful besides interceptor fleets and stealth bombers. I know some people enjoy that but is it really accomplishing anything? I feel like we'll never be able to project force like we used to with PL camping all of our old super staging space. I guess I'd just like to know there is some kind of plan because poo poo seems like it's getting old and I'm debating whether or not to let all my accounts lapse when they are up in a few months. Have you missed the last week where we got into several battlecruiser brawls?
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