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Glory of Arioch posted:also, funny thing about fozziesov, literally everyone in f/pb/dek taking space right now, with the exception of phorde, is recruiting renters to grind ADMs for them
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LemonDrizzle posted:Isn't that kind of good and also an explicitly intended outcome? Not necessarily the renting model, but making ratting/mining/general in-space activity important for holding space. no, the desire is to live in your space, not rent it out
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yeah i'm still waiting for that nullsec buff ccp promised
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avatarinwin posted:yeah i'm still waiting for that nullsec buff ccp promised no more goons in it
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Fix Lag posted:no more goons in it yeah that makes it more likely that 0.0 income will go up 
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Glory of Arioch posted:say what you want about the war but it is good to be back in my element again I'm still short of using all my accounts full-tilt. If we start using a double blops bridge oppression fleet up into the far tip of Deklein, then maybe.
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I am deciding on logging on all my guys soon and making a run for saranenan.would be awesome seeing a mackinaw fleet with all ore strip miners making a run from e-fico out. Then just using them in high sec for mining I feel dirty just thinking it.
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is this a good time to come back and move my things out of Delve?
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Zsinjeh posted:is this a good time to come back and move my things out of Delve? if they're in npc stations yeah probably
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This thread is doing way better than it was. We've only had one ban since between my warning post and catching up after waking up this morning seeing how we have been. Thank you for making me feel good about reopening it!
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harlyq posted:I am deciding on logging on all my guys soon and making a run for saranenan.would be awesome seeing a mackinaw fleet with all ore strip miners making a run from e-fico out. Then just using them in high sec for mining I feel dirty just thinking it. Probing yourself a wormhole to highsec would likely be a safer plan than a Channel Dash through Pure Blind.
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VideoGames posted:This thread is doing way better than it was. We've only had one ban since between my warning post and catching up after waking up this morning seeing how we have been. I saw it and I made a  face irl not gonna lie
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May 23, 2016 10:15
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Jegan Ace posted:Not having sov is pretty awesome though. So what you're saying is that losing sov is awesome because now Goonswarm can do ~wulfpax~? 
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feedmegin posted:So what you're saying is that losing sov is awesome because now Goonswarm can do ~wulfpax~? no, now the situation is flipped we can do whatever it was our attackers did.
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Huge_Midget posted:What I don't understand is why PL and Goons never decided to just merge and helicopter dick the entire game. Is it an ego thing amongst the top leadership? I would think that not even the rest of Eve being bankrolled by people like IWI and the other casinos could stand up to Goons + PL. Oh well I guess that after B-R there were probably too many bruised egos to make that happen. We did that years ago, to the point where we had enough Titans in our group to AOE doomsday carriers to death. Oddly enough capitals were rebalanced a few months later. Things have changed dramatically since those days however. Most (if not all) of the pro-Goons leadership in PL have either quit, taken a backseat or simply joined us. In the meantime PL have become best buds with the core of the anti-Goons brigade; EVOL, RKK, Finfleet, ISRAD and so on. The only relationship we can look forward to is being best of frenemies in Saranen forever more.
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War Eagle posted:I don't think anyone really believes we're going to take AND hold all of our old space, the new mechanics would make it a nightmare of constant pings for defense ops and entosis ships. As someone who has personally gone through hundreds of units of Stront in the last couple of months, I can confidently say that everyone hates that mechanic and wants to avoid it as much as possible. We've been pretty explicit that future holdings are based on proximity to Saranen and anything more than a couple of bridges or a couple of dozen stargates from there isn't realistic to conquer and keep under the current sov/jump fatigue mechanics. e: which is not to say there's nothing that can be done to make life difficult for anyone else who does try to live in other parts of the galaxy 
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:no, the desire is to live in your space, not rent it out
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:good job quoting reddit hours late not all of us f5 reddit all day long friend deadtear :V
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VideoGames posted:This thread is doing way better than it was. We've only had one ban since between my warning post and catching up after waking up this morning seeing how we have been. Eve players can be full of hate I am happy we didn't reach this level yet http://www.minerbumping.com/2016/05/highsec-miner-grab-bag-106.html
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Endie posted:not all of us f5 reddit all day long friend deadtear :V it was linked in the votebrigade jabber channel known as elysium
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Endie posted:not all of us f5 reddit all day long friend deadtear :V frozenpussy posted:it was linked in the votebrigade jabber channel known as elysium dont be mean to me endie i've been nice to you 
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May 23, 2016 10:41
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LemonDrizzle posted:The landlords do have to live in their space, though - even if they're not the ones shooting rats and rocks, they have to be on hand to defend. Fozziesov and Phoebe jump mechanics mean that it's not really viable to be an absentee landlord holding many regions in the way it used to be. do like goonfleetswarm did and put the renters in the alliance 
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:do like goonfleetswarm did and put the renters in the alliance
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May 23, 2016 10:53
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LemonDrizzle posted:Having the renters in the alliance doesn't obviate the need to have people on hand to fight off opportunistic sovhackers. If you leave renters unaided to fend off groups like Exodus who will wand systems to provoke fights, you're going to come back to find a dumpster fire where your rental empire used to be. We got 99 problems but sov hackers ain't one
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Helicon One posted:Probing yourself a wormhole to highsec would likely be a safer plan than a Channel Dash through Pure Blind. I'm thinking about it. The idea though of Deklein residents screaming about a fleet of exhumers making a dash for the door is rather fun. Maybe I should make a stream of it and call it THE GREAT ESCAPE mackinaw style. Probably blowing up horribly to a rifter. harlyq fucked around with this message at 11:10 on May 23, 2016 |
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:yeah, nobody can stand this really popular guy do you listen to yourself sometimes? Get me his autograph the next time you see it. one day it may be worth something on ebay.
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Dalael posted:Get me his autograph the next time you see it. one day it may be worth something on ebay. He gave me his black business card and it seemed a lot like I was being propositioned by a pretty man
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frozenpussy posted:We got 99 problems but sov
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same meaning and my version matches the lyrics by syllables perfectly.
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frozenpussy posted:same meaning and my version matches the lyrics by syllables perfectly. I was just trying to be big and clever on the internet 
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frozenpussy posted:same meaning and my version matches the lyrics by syllables perfectly. No, neither version scanned: he had one syllable too few and you had one too many. Edit: I thought yours was "sov hackers", sorry. In that case the problem with the scansion is that line places the stress on the "bitch"/"ers" syllable and that sounds horrible with "hackERS".
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harlyq posted:I'm thinking about it. The idea though of Deklein residents screaming about a fleet of exhumers making a dash for the door is rather fun. Maybe I should make a stream of it and call it THE GREAT ESCAPE mackinaw style. Probably blowing up horribly to a rifter. You could advertise it and make it something like "Bring me the head of Kirith Kodachi" but with mining barges and gates.
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Endie posted:No, neither version scanned: he had one syllable too few and you had one too many. didn't expect it to be you, Endie
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Kimsemus posted:Sorry I was watching Game of Thrones and hazing Snuff. Hold the door 
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xtothez posted:In the meantime PL have become best buds with the core of the anti-Goons brigade; EVOL, RKK, Finfleet, ISRAD Yea, no, ISRAD isn't actually anti goon, we just like to play eve our way, and it turned out DJ didn't like that back in the day. Yea we like shooting goons, just like we like to shoot anyone else we shoot. If anyone thinks we're frothing at the mouth to kill the g00nies they are highly misinformed.
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Orange Red Bull posted:Hold the door loving spoilers man, I'm not caught up yet and I think I just connected some dots 
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ApocalypseMeow posted:loving spoilers man, I'm not caught up yet and I think I just connected some dots YA0-XJ VII - GoT Spoilers 
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LemonDrizzle posted:Isn't that kind of good and also an explicitly intended outcome? Not necessarily the renting model, but making ratting/mining/general in-space activity important for holding space. yeah -- i'm not faulting that, just finding it amusing that the optimal path to getting this done is renting not even casting aspersions towards it either -- we had renters to grind ADMs too, it's just how poo poo rolls in fozziesov
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we go from a system that utilizes 80% of all conquerable 0.0 for renting to a system that utilizes 99% of conquerable sov for renting
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