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Sarchasm
Apr 14, 2002

So that explains why he did not answer. He had no mouth to answer with. There is nothing left of him but his ears.

Cat Machine posted:

It isn't even in the steam top 100 any more despite some really old/niche games being in there.

Where was USF4 in the Steam top 100 this time last year? Does anyone remember?

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piratepilates
Mar 28, 2004

So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it.



Twitch viewers is my favourite metric about games. There are more people watching Overwatch replays on Twitch than there are people watching SF5.

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord

Sarchasm posted:

Where was USF4 in the Steam top 100 this time last year? Does anyone remember?

It shows ~1700 players this day one year ago so I'm going with not on the Top 100 at all.

Dracula Factory
Sep 7, 2007


It'll probably be playable at some point and it'll probably still be a long term success because its street fighter, but it just rubs me the wrong way to try and get good at a game when the devs don't even seem to give a poo poo. And I don't doubt that GG has easier combo execution than I think, but while the graphics themselves are excellent, I really hate most of the character designs. And it doesn't help at all that the best character is a bimbo with her tits popping out whos only character trait is that she wants a husband really bad, I mean come on. If you don't see why people are put off by that then I don't know how to help you.

Microwaves Mom
Nov 8, 2015

by zen death robot
The Character for SFV this month is further disappointment.

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord

Microwaves Mom posted:

The Character for SFV this month is further disappointment.

Well at least they delivered early in the month this time.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Dracula Factory posted:

It'll probably be playable at some point and it'll probably still be a long term success because its street fighter, but it just rubs me the wrong way to try and get good at a game when the devs don't even seem to give a poo poo. And I don't doubt that GG has easier combo execution than I think, but while the graphics themselves are excellent, I really hate most of the character designs. And it doesn't help at all that the best character is a bimbo with her tits popping out whos only character trait is that she wants a husband really bad, I mean come on. If you don't see why people are put off by that then I don't know how to help you.

Well you don't need to play as Elphelt

dangerdoom volvo
Nov 5, 2009
i think if youre gonna lob criticisms of offensive portrayals of women at gg youll find street fighter guilty several times over and also far more humorless

dog house
Sep 13, 2012

I have a hard time being bothered by anything in GG after seeing Laura's alt.

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Dracula Factory posted:

It'll probably be playable at some point and it'll probably still be a long term success because its street fighter, but it just rubs me the wrong way to try and get good at a game when the devs don't even seem to give a poo poo. And I don't doubt that GG has easier combo execution than I think, but while the graphics themselves are excellent, I really hate most of the character designs. And it doesn't help at all that the best character is a bimbo with her tits popping out whos only character trait is that she wants a husband really bad, I mean come on. If you don't see why people are put off by that then I don't know how to help you.

have you loving seen laura, cammy, r. mika, ibuki's dumb hip windows, c.viper, or poison

KaptainKrunk
Feb 6, 2006


piratepilates posted:

Twitch viewers is my favourite metric about games. There are more people watching Overwatch replays on Twitch than there are people watching SF5.

SFV manages to be even more boring than Overwatch to watch.

MohShuvuu
Aug 26, 2010

I eat ass.

Dracula Factory posted:

It'll probably be playable at some point and it'll probably still be a long term success because its street fighter, but it just rubs me the wrong way to try and get good at a game when the devs don't even seem to give a poo poo. And I don't doubt that GG has easier combo execution than I think, but while the graphics themselves are excellent, I really hate most of the character designs. And it doesn't help at all that the best character is a bimbo with her tits popping out whos only character trait is that she wants a husband really bad, I mean come on. If you don't see why people are put off by that then I don't know how to help you.

:eyepop: fighting game stories

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene
GG's got less characters that exist for having bigass titties than SF. There's a lotta gross anime games out there but it isn't really one of them. Not that Elph is good design, but I mean, it's not anything different from R. Mika/Cammy/Whatever.

Also, probably not the thread for it, but Elph is less 'the best' and more 'the most annoying'. I wonder what other game might have a really annoying character with huge cleavage......

CRISPYBABY fucked around with this message at 18:39 on May 23, 2016

Zand
Jul 9, 2003

~ i'll take you for a ride ~ ride on a meteorite ~

Dracula Factory posted:

It'll probably be playable at some point and it'll probably still be a long term success because its street fighter, but it just rubs me the wrong way to try and get good at a game when the devs don't even seem to give a poo poo. And I don't doubt that GG has easier combo execution than I think, but while the graphics themselves are excellent, I really hate most of the character designs. And it doesn't help at all that the best character is a bimbo with her tits popping out whos only character trait is that she wants a husband really bad, I mean come on. If you don't see why people are put off by that then I don't know how to help you.

i play as ryu because i identify with being a homeless warrior trying to be the strongest ever while concealing my inner fury

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Was elphelt always guy crazy? I never owned her in Xrd so I only recently got to play through her arcade mode in the Rev demo

dangerdoom volvo
Nov 5, 2009

In Training posted:

Was elphelt always guy crazy? I never owned her in Xrd so I only recently got to play through her arcade mode in the Rev demo

shes been shotgun weddinging since day 1

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
maybe it's good but i can't stand the character designs or the bimbo with her tits popping out



would be good if capcom put in more effort :/





Dracula Factory
Sep 7, 2007


Yeah im not gonna make any excuses for laura and cammy, etc. its pretty much the same problem, maybe im just more forgiving because they are "classic". What I'm really saying is most off the GG characters that arent potemkin or millia look stupid as hell in a VERY japanese way, and I don't feel the same way about street fighter. Also there's like 100 people in the US that play Xrd and I don't want to put time and effort to join a small and shrinking niche video game community. Maybe I should just pick up tennis, because I love 1v1 games but fighting games are riddled with all sorts of stupid video game crap that I don't care for.

Dracula Factory fucked around with this message at 18:44 on May 23, 2016

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

In Training posted:

Was elphelt always guy crazy? I never owned her in Xrd so I only recently got to play through her arcade mode in the Rev demo

iirc her first emotion was extreme thirst

Dracula Factory posted:

Yeah im not gonna make any excuses for laura and cammy, etc. its pretty much the same problem, maybe im just more forgiving because they are "classic". What I'm really saying is most off the GG characters that arent potemkin or millia look stupid as hell in a VERY japanese way, and I don't feel the same way about street fighter. Also there's like 100 people in the US that play Xrd and I don't want to put time and effort to join a small and shrinking niche community.

it's growing and maybe you should get over the hating anime if you want to play literally the only good alive fighter lmao

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene

Dracula Factory posted:

Yeah im not gonna make any excuses for laura and cammy, etc. its pretty much the same problem, maybe im just more forgiving because they are "classic". What I'm really saying is most off the GG characters that arent potemkin or millia look stupid as hell in a VERY japanese way, and I don't feel the same way about street fighter. Also there's like 100 people in the US that play Xrd and I don't want to put time and effort to join a small and shrinking niche community.

It's growing, I can feel it in the air as people defect from SF. :getin:

Any ways yeah I started a similar derail in this thread once making fun of Skullgirls aesthetic so I can't fault you too hard. The main problem with GG is having to hang out with people who play other anime games and watch anime and then suddenly you get roped into playing games that are just schoolgirls fighting each other and wondering how your life came to this.

THE SLIPPERY SLOPE OF ANIME

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

That classic SFV character Laura

Alfalfa The Roach
Oct 13, 2012

You need to be a badass first.
Play good anime fighting games like Guilty Gear and avoid bad anime fighting games like Arcana Heart

darealkooky
Sep 15, 2011

You sayin' I like dubs?!?
elphelt is a gag character at the expense of the whole "waifu" trend in anime and also a really obtuse reference to the the song white wedding and the band guns and roses

she has big ol baps because they get people sprung, but there's also a design motif of her having to look overly feminine because the whole gag is taking that to the extreme (like every GG character)


whats the excuse for this other then "people will spend more money to pre-order the game in order to get the sexy costume"



e: while making this post someone already made the same point as me, whoops! I still feel that making Strong And Independant Interpol Police Officer and Strongest Woman In The World wear a single flimsy piece of cloth that shows off her giant as hell breasts and thighs like she's a piece of meat is way more offensive to feminism then a character that talks about cheesy love cliches when she loses a fight but then again I'm not a weird sex hating neo-puritan so idk

darealkooky fucked around with this message at 18:49 on May 23, 2016

Dracula Factory
Sep 7, 2007


attackmole posted:

It's growing, I can feel it in the air as people defect from SF. :getin:

Any ways yeah I started a similar derail in this thread once making fun of Skullgirls aesthetic so I can't fault you too hard. The main problem with GG is having to hang out with people who play other anime games and watch anime and then suddenly you get roped into playing games that are just schoolgirls fighting each other and wondering how your life came to this.

Yeah this is the exact situation I want to avoid, my hobbies are shameful enough, I don't need to make it any worse.

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
anothe reason to play gg - these people will actually see you in super turbo

AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"
THESE anime titties are fine, they're classic you know

THESE anime titties are terrible ugh gently caress anime

dangerdoom volvo
Nov 5, 2009
anime is cool. i just got probated for saying anime is synonymous with incest and pedophilia but i dont think they realized i meant it as a compliment

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Dracula Factory posted:

Yeah this is the exact situation I want to avoid, my hobbies are shameful enough, I don't need to make it any worse.

nobody even really cares what your hobbies are past friendly curiosity and the only person shaming you for them is you

Dracula Factory
Sep 7, 2007


darealkooky posted:

elphelt is a gag character at the expense of the whole "waifu" trend in anime and also a really obtuse reference to the the song white wedding and the band guns and roses

she has big ol baps because they get people sprung, but there's also a design motif of her having to look overly feminine because the whole gag is taking that to the extreme (like every GG character)


whats the excuse for this other then "people will spend more money to pre-order the game in order to get the sexy costume"



Just because shes a "gag" character doesnt mean she isn't insanely good with what looks like little effort, and gags can still be sexist and off-putting. And say what you will about the SF women, none of them have awful squeaky voices like jam and elphelt do. God do I hate Jam.

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord

AnonSpore posted:

THESE anime titties are fine, they're classic you know

THESE anime titties are terrible ugh gently caress anime

No one told me on career day that Anime Titty Ranker was a possible job.

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Saint Freak posted:

No one told me on career day that Anime Titty Ranker was a possible job.

moooooooooooooddddddddddssssssssssssssssssss

dangerdoom volvo
Nov 5, 2009
the worst design in GG is actually sols little loincloth

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI

MohShuvuu posted:

:eyepop: fighting game stories

Story in a fighting game is like a story in a porno. It's expected to be there, but it's not that important.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

The Suffering of the Succotash.

Chocolate Teapot posted:

Oh well that makes it alright.

Don't think for a second that I'm defending that bullshit.

rednecked_crake
Mar 17, 2012

srsly who wants to play this lamer?

Gammatron 64 posted:

Story in a fighting game is like a story in a porno. It's expected to be there, but it's not that important.

The special intros in AC+r are super cool and a nice little extra in a game already brimming with nice little things that back up a solid fighting game.

NecroMonster
Jan 4, 2009

I sure do hate that big titty anime character who's a reference to a jefferson airplane song, a billy idol song, and alice in wonderland and includes a lot of thought and humor in her character design.

just hate her.

Dracula Factory
Sep 7, 2007


Pomp posted:

nobody even really cares what your hobbies are past friendly curiosity and the only person shaming you for them is you

Do you not have friends? I choose to partake in hobbies with friends, and all of them are put off by guilty gear so if I want to do things with friends I need to avoid having bizarre hobbies involving half naked screaming women. Hell even the guy who introduced me to GGX2 back in the day can't stand Xrd, and I tried to convince him otherwise but after we talked about it he ended up convincing me that GG isn't worth the effort. There are a lot of video games out there, and putting so much time into an unreliable form of entertainment like a fighting game is a bad move. (and I don't own a ps4 so I have to wait for PC revelator if I want a sizeable, current community.)

And it's not fun for me to be bad at GG, I wish I could do all the cool stuff and recognize what my opponent is trying to do to me, but I think you GG fans take for granted how fast the game is, also I didnt play fighters as a kid so doing combos doesn't come as naturally to me as it does to some of you. GG feels like the speed of ST but with way way way more mechanics to worry about, and while that might sound great to some people, it's really not my bag, and doubly so if I can't share it with my friends.

darealkooky
Sep 15, 2011

You sayin' I like dubs?!?

Dracula Factory posted:

Just because shes a "gag" character doesnt mean she isn't insanely good with what looks like little effort, and gags can still be sexist and off-putting. And say what you will about the SF women, none of them have awful squeaky voices like jam and elphelt do. God do I hate Jam.

what exactly is sexist about elphelt? the fact that she's attractive? meanwhile in SF5 we have

quote:

making Strong And Independant Interpol Police Officer and Strongest Woman In The World wear a single flimsy piece of cloth that shows off her giant as hell breasts and thighs like she's a piece of meat

as well as equally empowering global rear end kicker lady cammy wear a gynmist leotard for no reason, but these are ok while a girl wearing a big poofy weeding dress isn't?

NecroMonster
Jan 4, 2009

Dracula Factory posted:

Just because shes a "gag" character doesnt mean she isn't insanely good with what looks like little effort, and gags can still be sexist and off-putting. And say what you will about the SF women, none of them have awful squeaky voices like jam and elphelt do. God do I hate Jam.

that's just japanese voices. elphelt (i don't know about jam) sounds great in english.

of course, since you can't do voice preferences on a character per character basis if you want the female characters to sound good all of the male characters have to sound bad.

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Dracula Factory
Sep 7, 2007


I-No's english "poo poo!" when she whiffs her command grab is pretty great. I-no is a good example of what I'm talking about, she could just be a cool guitar witch but of course they had to give her 1000 belts and a garment that can't really be called a top just so old men can get a bone on to a video game.

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