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PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

Kesper North posted:

Wow. I always thought the condi emote was somehow inspired by Condoleeza Rice.

That makes two of us.

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Other Barry
Jun 5, 2012


Dinosaur Gum

ullerrm posted:

There were probably a few newbees in the post-squad era who fell through the cracks because they never joined a sig/squad and felt isolated.

As a newbie, I do kind of feel this way. I log in from time to time, hop in the standing fleet or get shouted at by boat, but I don't feel like any kind of connection to anything in game. I mean that's mostly my fault, I've been busy with work lately and don't log in as much as I should.

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus
There's something disturbing about year old snoobies kicking around veteran Waffe members.

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Zephyrine posted:

There's something disturbing about year old snoobies kicking around veteran Waffe members.

I don't know why newbie Phorde drones think that their opinion holds any merit at all really

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

Olpainless posted:

At least in this thread. Compared to twitter.

VideoGames' effortless vigil to save this thread makes me strive to be a better poster- so I save taunting, shitposting and firestarting for r/eve (which is a horrible place) and twitter to gently caress with "the enemy" company men.

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

vyst posted:

I don't know why newbie Phorde drones think that their opinion holds any merit at all really

Don't channel deadtear at me. One is enough.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Other Barry posted:

As a newbie, I do kind of feel this way. I log in from time to time, hop in the standing fleet or get shouted at by boat, but I don't feel like any kind of connection to anything in game. I mean that's mostly my fault, I've been busy with work lately and don't log in as much as I should.

There are plenty of squads that never have relied on our sov and continue to operate normally (or even more than they used to) such as Miniluv, Hole Squad, and SV. There's probably more I'm forgetting.


Zephyrine posted:

There's something disturbing about year old snoobies kicking around veteran Waffe members.

lol the first post you come off probation you go right back to concern trolling.

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

Venom Snake posted:

lol the first post you come off probation you go right back to concern trolling.

I never troll.

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Xolve posted:

VideoGames' effortless vigil to save this thread makes me strive to be a better poster- so I save taunting, shitposting and firestarting for r/eve (which is a horrible place) and twitter to gently caress with "the enemy" company men.

I had to unsubscribe from there. It's like 4chan meets a elementary school playground

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


vyst posted:

I had to unsubscribe from there. It's like 4chan meets a elementary school playground

:same:

grumplestiltzkin
Jun 7, 2012

Ass, gas, or grass. No one rides for free.

vyst posted:

Aww man I'm a useless director, better post in the SA thread about it

Admitting that you have a problem is the first step to fixing it. I'm glad that you can admit that openly.

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



grumplestiltzkin posted:

Admitting that you have a problem is the first step to fixing it. I'm glad that you can admit that openly.

I'm not a director so...

grumplestiltzkin
Jun 7, 2012

Ass, gas, or grass. No one rides for free.

vyst posted:

I'm not a director so...

Well not with that attitude you're not. Believing in yourself is the first step.

luminalflux
May 27, 2005



grumplestiltzkin posted:

Well not with that attitude you're not. Believing in yourself is the first step.

vyst believed in himself so much he literally lost half his self

vulvamancer
Oct 2, 2006

Yes! It all makes sense! We may be freaks, but we're freaks with teeth, and claws, and magic wands! And together, we can stand up to Farquaad!

Happy Dolphin posted:

If that was the reason they could at least have told me instead of accusing me of not doing anything when that is flat out wrong and easily provable when you look at my illum jabber activity, my forum posts and broadcasts over the last 3 weeks. Like I explained above, I fully understand the not-doing-anything coordination wise which is why I offered to step down, but in terms of doing capital things, that's not accurate at all.


I wasn't aware you'd been demoted because I hadn't seen you say anything in illum for weeks. It's not my choice but it felt like you were pretty checked out since we started losing space (which you took really hard).

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
So how's the war going recently?

Fix Lag
Sep 8, 2011

There's a sale at Penny's!

Friendly Humour posted:

So how's the war going recently?

According to reddit it's over.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Friendly Humour posted:

So how's the war going recently?

USTZ MBC keeps feeding tons of capitals to goon hurricane fleets, reddit constantly crows "war is over, goon is dead!"

Game is bad and dumb and you should not play it.

(Except for VideoGames he makes the game good with his :kimchi: attitude)

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

vyst posted:

Aww man I'm a useless director, better post in the SA thread about it

You already know this poo poo, but for the benefit of everyone else, my $0.02:

Being in illum is not about chatting up with other cool people, or having some sort of leadership cred; it isn't a social club. It's about getting poo poo done -- fleets need to be sent here, stockpiles need to get moved there, contracts made, isk transferred, allies informed, doctrines theory-crafted, wiki pages updated, threads posted, broadcasts made. Illum is a gaggle of retards who volunteer to carry 500kg each so that line members don't have to break a sweat carrying 5kg each, and people come and go as they burn out and/or rejuvenate.

We're actually pretty casual about divvying up work; a lot of us are multi-taskers. But when you say "I'll take care of X," you have to actually do X in a timely manner. Sitting on your hands and doing nothing is actually not a huge deal; promising to do something, and then making no progress on it for days/weeks until someone else has to pick that task up, is far worse.

(This also means that it's pretty important to know when to say no -- there's been times when I've had too much on my plate, I've been asked to do something, and I admit that I don't have time/energy to do it. We find someone else to do it, and I focus on finishing what I've already promised to do. This is why I'm not the only person on the fitting team.)

grumplestiltzkin posted:

Well not with that attitude you're not. Believing in yourself is the first step.

Quoting just because that avatar is awesome. Although I'm more of a Mei's Bei myself.

Friendly Humour posted:

So how's the war going recently?

Lost all of our space -- not a single structure on the map belongs to CONDI. Despite this, still the largest alliance in the game, and still having lots of fun.

The denizens of r/eve have largely declared mission accomplished (because Goons totally died the last time we lost all our sov, right?) and everyone is starting to head home and reset each other... except for NCPL, who are stuck in 93PI for the foreseeable future if they want to keep PH alive. Manny may be the head of PL, but Gobbins appears to be calling all the shots, topping from the bottom like a boss

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

ullerrm posted:

The denizens of r/eve have largely declared mission accomplished (because Goons totally died the last time we lost all our sov, right?) and everyone is starting to head home and reset each other... except for NCPL, who are stuck in 93PI for the foreseeable future if they want to keep PH alive. Manny may be the head of PL, but Gobbins appears to be calling all the shots, topping from the bottom like a boss

...Manny isn't the 'Head' of PL. If anyone- that's Elise.

This is Killah's campaign though- so he's the shot caller until we find something else to do.

Xolve fucked around with this message at 00:37 on May 26, 2016

YouTuber
Jul 31, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

ullerrm posted:

Manny may be the head of PL, but Gobbins appears to be calling all the shots, topping from the bottom like a boss

Nice to know that even after 10 years nobody understands how PL's leadership works even when being told how it works year after year.

grumplestiltzkin
Jun 7, 2012

Ass, gas, or grass. No one rides for free.

ullerrm posted:

Quoting just because that avatar is awesome. Although I'm more of a Mei's Bei myself.

:blush: I was gonna go mei (I actually suck rear end as genji) but a)everyone did meis baes b)dat booty

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

YouTuber posted:

Nice to know that even after 10 years nobody understands how PL's leadership works even when being told how it works year after year.

Oh, trust me, I know the official story PL tells everyone about "campaign leaders" and whatnot -- So, who's been the campaign leader for this war? Was there a change in campaign, or a change in leader, between the Vale ops and the 93PI ops? What was the campaign before Vale, and who was leading it? (Genuine questions, not sarcasm.)

To be perfectly honest, the official stories about PL's decision-making style often give the feeling of plausible deniability, rather than a genuine buck-stops-here leadership. I'm not sure if that's intentional, but it's the attitude that I received, and it's a major reason that I didn't follow leboe to PL when I burned out at Rote.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

as much as i distrust pl's story that "oh, only xxxx can make decisions this week, terribly sorry" i'm pretty sure nobody's putting the guy who at this point probably isn't even allowed to run capitals anymore in charge of pl

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

ullerrm posted:

Lost all of our space -- not a single structure on the map belongs to CONDI. Despite this, still the largest alliance in the game, and still having lots of fun.

We still have structures, just not in k-space :sun:

stale meme dot png
May 5, 2015
College Slice

Zephyrine posted:

There's something disturbing about year old snoobies kicking around veteran Waffe members.

Ah yes the ol' "You just haven't earned it yet, baby" argument, except sung not with Morrissey's panache but instead by someone who left but can't help but to keep opining on the state of the place they just left. Not very Morrissey of you.

gwrtheyrn
Oct 21, 2010

AYYYE DEEEEE DUBBALYOO DA-NYAAAAAH!
is merkelchen the new sion or something?

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter
yes

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Merkelchen has been Sion's #2 for a while now.

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




i thought the mittani was sions #2

CasinoV
Aug 13, 2009
I'm sorry the idea of not having a singular god king ruling over the alliance is a foreign concept. Killah has been leading PL since the move to Vale. Other FCs help out when they can so you will see Manny, Mukk, and some other guys who aren't Eve famous running fleets as well.

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



ullerrm posted:

You already know this poo poo, but for the benefit of everyone else, my $0.02:

Being in illum is not about chatting up with other cool people, or having some sort of leadership cred; it isn't a social club. It's about getting poo poo done -- fleets need to be sent here, stockpiles need to get moved there, contracts made, isk transferred, allies informed, doctrines theory-crafted, wiki pages updated, threads posted, broadcasts made. Illum is a gaggle of retards who volunteer to carry 500kg each so that line members don't have to break a sweat carrying 5kg each, and people come and go as they burn out and/or rejuvenate.

We're actually pretty casual about divvying up work; a lot of us are multi-taskers. But when you say "I'll take care of X," you have to actually do X in a timely manner. Sitting on your hands and doing nothing is actually not a huge deal; promising to do something, and then making no progress on it for days/weeks until someone else has to pick that task up, is far worse.

(This also means that it's pretty important to know when to say no -- there's been times when I've had too much on my plate, I've been asked to do something, and I admit that I don't have time/energy to do it. We find someone else to do it, and I focus on finishing what I've already promised to do. This is why I'm not the only person on the fitting team.)

Directorship has always been an effortocracy. I became a director because I was literally the only person doing anything in recon. My predecessor was having a quarter life crisis loving chicks topping a deuce and a half in weight. If you do enough work in a sector, and it's good work, and you're not a complete dickhole without social graces you'll easily find yourself becoming a director after passing the eye test. GSF doesn't work without directors, because directors are the people that are dumb enough (myself included) to either herd cats, or enable others to herd cats without the expectation of fame or fortune.

Other Barry
Jun 5, 2012


Dinosaur Gum

Zephyrine posted:

There's something disturbing about year old snoobies kicking around veteran Waffe members.

not all message board communities hate immigrants as much as yours

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
I recall leaving my toon on some station in saranen. Some T2 heron without a cloak. I think I got a jump clone in high sec. How hosed am I?

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



Friendly Humour posted:

I recall leaving my toon on some station in saranen. Some T2 heron without a cloak. I think I got a jump clone in high sec. How hosed am I?

Can you give me some more details about your toon? Did you run any mishies with it?

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter
cant help you because nobody here knows what a toon is

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter
except VYST I GUESS

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Thank you.

RhoA
Jul 20, 2014

Friendly Humour posted:

I recall leaving my toon on some station in saranen. Some T2 heron without a cloak. I think I got a jump clone in high sec. How hosed am I?

T2 heron without a cloak... What the hell were you doing with it?

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vyst
Aug 25, 2009



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