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GulagDolls posted:i am Gundam. Well I'm GM EDIT: GM Sniper 
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So in things unrelated to the literal crazy person who sees fascism in anything: https://twitter.com/GwynCampbell/status/736005564740706304
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May 27, 2016 03:03
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Darth Walrus posted:We can at least all agree that while it's not perfect by any means, Alia in GBF gets the best Cyber-Newtype plot arc so far, right? Probably, but I'm still pretty sure Allenby did better than the average. She won fights, and she didn't die. Good for her.
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May 27, 2016 03:46
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Challia Bull still doesn't have a Manga yet.
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May 27, 2016 03:50
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:So in things unrelated to the literal crazy person who sees fascism in anything: I don't know, but I wouldn't mind a #manga about the #adventures of #RanGarrod and #ParaSys
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May 27, 2016 04:07
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SeanBeansShako posted:Challia Bull still doesn't have a Manga yet. His badass Origin fight might as well be his.
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May 27, 2016 04:08
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ImpAtom posted:His badass Origin fight might as well be his. Oh cool, happy Origin gave him a chance to shine.
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May 27, 2016 04:22
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He has a pretty good short in Evolve too.
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:So in things unrelated to the literal crazy person who sees fascism in anything: Unless Origin also takes care of that.
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May 27, 2016 05:01
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Is that the guy from the island with the orphans?
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May 27, 2016 05:19
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Ethiser posted:Is that the guy from the island with the orphans?
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May 27, 2016 05:25
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I hope he gets a custom Zaku 1 and destroys a new Test Type Ground Gundam.
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May 27, 2016 05:28
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Finally , cucuruz doan is getting the recognition and extended background he deserved.
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May 27, 2016 05:39
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Maybe his episode will get an HD remastered release too! Or any release at all.
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May 27, 2016 06:16
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it's neither as bad as tomino feels or really constructive to the series as a whole.
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May 27, 2016 06:28
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muike posted:it's neither as bad as tomino feels or really constructive to the series as a whole. It looks really bad even compared to the rest of the show, but the plot of the episode is fine.
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May 27, 2016 06:34
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I think when you're in as deep as most of us in this thread that adds to the charm of it.
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May 27, 2016 06:35
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AradoBalanga posted:I believe Paolo Cassius (aka, White Base's original captain) also does not have his own manga spin-off yet. Origin gives Paolo more than the series did but he's still mostly a background character.
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May 27, 2016 06:48
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muike posted:I think when you're in as deep as most of us in this thread that adds to the charm of it.
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Ka0 posted:I don't know, but I wouldn't mind a #manga about the #adventures of #RanGarrod and #ParaSys Me too.
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May 27, 2016 07:05
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I'm looking forward to when the Origin OVAs get to M'Quve, because he's one of the better changes in the manga.
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May 27, 2016 09:02
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Lemon-Lime posted:I'm looking forward to when the Origin OVAs get to M'Quve, because he's one of the better changes in the manga. I've just finished his part in the manga, but I haven't been able to see the original show yet for comparison. How's his bit go there?
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May 27, 2016 09:47
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Sorry to go back to this again but it's been bugging me so much I haven't been able to sleep: I think one of the reasons Marida's death bugs me so much is because she had been one of the most well executed character so far. Thinking about it, she actually got lucky because she had 90% of a well-executed story, while most other characters got way less than that. Riddhe's arc is really cool on paper, but the execution is pretty botched. Banagher's friend are pretty badly handled, especially Micott. Loni is just terrible from start to finish. And Full Frontal is just there for most of the OVA, with only one really interesting in the penultimate episode that never really gets followed upon (when his mask breaks and you see the crazy guy underneath for a second). Audrey's ok, I guess. But the worst handled, and my new take for worst handled character in the story, is Banagher. His character is pretty much nonexistent. He gets a few character moment through the OVAs, but they never gel into a complete character: he ends up an empty bottle with a few generic Gundam MC tropes floating around in it, not enough to make up a full personality. Let's compare him to other Gundam MCs: Amuro, Kamille, Judeau and the others all get character establishing moments in the early episodes, setting up who they are at the start of the story. You get a feel for them and then you get to see how the story changes them. You see them interact with their friends, family, setting, etc. before poo poo hits the fan. You get a feeling of how they would exist outside the story you see, of who they are. This is true not just of the guys who get full series, but even of the OVA characters like Al and Bernie. Even Seabook, who's show got butchered into a Frankenstein's Movie, gets something of a basic character. Hell, even Kira from Gundam SeeD, lord Bland himself, gets his character establishing moments at the start. But Banagher gets nothing. Our first scene with him, he's staring blankly into space and then he rescues Audrey and the plot grabs him. Throughout the series he never really gets moments like the other MCs to establish who he is. He functionally doesn't exist outside the events of the plot. you get no feel for how he'd interact with people or live his life. gently caress, his friends are minor characters present throughout the story and he ALMOST NEVER INTERACTS WITH THEM! Think about that for a second! This is why Banagher can't think of anything better than "Even So" at the end: he's as empty as Full Frontal.
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May 27, 2016 10:14
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Banagher is potential. Which is a fancy way of saying "maybe you'll be worth talking about someday, crystal kid."
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May 27, 2016 10:16
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Full Frontal explicitly compares himself to Banagher. They are both just vessels that contain an ideal and nothing more, and a large part of the final confrontation is how Banagher was able to be the better vessel because he honestly believed in what he held while Full Frontal kind of just went with what people entrusted him with. FF gave up, Banagher never did. Now if you want to argue that's boring as gently caress then sure, but for what his character was supposed to be Banagher was handled well enough. Anyways I was told that instead of an OVA, BF Try is getting another season? I have no idea if that's true or not but if it is then man. Maaaaaaan.
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May 27, 2016 11:00
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chiasaur11 posted:I've just finished his part in the manga, but I haven't been able to see the original show yet for comparison. How's his bit go there? In First Gundam, he's a selfish coward and a boot-licker who constantly sucks up to Kycilia, is largely responsible for Ramba Ral failing to stop White Base and dying (by stealing the supplies intended for Ral for his own use, including the Doms), and actively attempts to nuke the Federation forces at Odessa (which only fails because Amuro beam sabers the nuke out of the air). He survives and flees back into orbit. During the Battle of Solomon, he refuses to take on the Solomon escape capsules until his men practically threaten to mutiny. He eventually dies fighting the Gundam in his Gyan near the end of the war (while lamenting that his prized vase never made it to Kycilia), after his plan to lure it into a trap and blow it up fails. In The Origin, he refuses to obey Kycilia's order to nuke the Federation forces because he doesn't want to damage the Earth, then sorties on his own in the Gyan to buy time for his men to withdraw, eventually detonating the Gyan in order to destroy as many Federation anti-air ships as possible. He comes across as a capable if aristocratic officer who fights for his side because it's his job, without buying in to the Zabis' fanatical beliefs. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 11:53 on May 27, 2016 |
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May 27, 2016 11:32
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BlitzBlast posted:Anyways I was told that instead of an OVA, BF Try is getting another season? I have no idea if that's true or not but if it is then man. Maaaaaaan. Build Fighters Try Again
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BlitzBlast posted:Anyways I was told that instead of an OVA, BF Try is getting another season? I have no idea if that's true or not but if it is then man. Maaaaaaan. ... Maybe it'll be good. Maybe.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Sorry to go back to this again but it's been bugging me so much I haven't been able to sleep: I think one of the reasons Marida's death bugs me so much is because she had been one of the most well executed character so far. Thinking about it, she actually got lucky because she had 90% of a well-executed story, while most other characters got way less than that. Riddhe's arc is really cool on paper, but the execution is pretty botched. Banagher's friend are pretty badly handled, especially Micott. Loni is just terrible from start to finish. And Full Frontal is just there for most of the OVA, with only one really interesting in the penultimate episode that never really gets followed upon (when his mask breaks and you see the crazy guy underneath for a second). Audrey's ok, I guess. even so
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T.G. Xarbala posted:Build Fighters Try Again 
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I really like unicorn because it takes the Gundam stories we all know and ups the melodrama. It almost turns the traditional Gundam story into mythical legend which would make alot of sense considering the ova is called unicorn, and they are searching for a mystical box. I tend to really like melodramatic stories though, and I still think episode 4 is a highmark of anime.
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BlitzBlast posted:Anyways I was told that instead of an OVA, BF Try is getting another season? I have no idea if that's true or not but if it is then man. Maaaaaaan. Wait, what?  Because of the timeskip after the last one, it means they'll be back to aiming for the Nationals again won't it? 
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May 27, 2016 17:59
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If the series has to continue I'd rather see a tv series anyways. An ova seems like it'd be ripe for repeating the same pitfalls
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I'm speaking theoretically tho since I think the only way I'd watch more is if different staff take over
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Lemon-Lime posted:In First Gundam, he's a selfish coward and a boot-licker who constantly sucks up to Kycilia, is largely responsible for Ramba Ral failing to stop White Base and dying (by stealing the supplies intended for Ral for his own use, including the Doms), and actively attempts to nuke the Federation forces at Odessa (which only fails because Amuro beam sabers the nuke out of the air). He survives and flees back into orbit. During the Battle of Solomon, he refuses to take on the Solomon escape capsules until his men practically threaten to mutiny. He eventually dies fighting the Gundam in his Gyan near the end of the war (while lamenting that his prized vase never made it to Kycilia), after his plan to lure it into a trap and blow it up fails. Well, he did try to nuke the Feddies. Just he refused orders to go beyond "Nuke the active combat ships" (Which Amuro stopped) to "Well, we've lost. gently caress EVERYTHING" because he loved Earth's culture. Which was a big thing for him in the manga. He felt like Earth's history was much more important than the current war.
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Midjack posted:even so *crumbles away*
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What would be the best analogy for zeon suits to ww2 German armour? I'd say the zaku ii is closest to the stug iii and iv
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Srice posted:I'm speaking theoretically tho since I think the only way I'd watch more is if different staff take over The original director coming back and the staff getting generous prep-time would probably iron out a lot of the wrinkles we ended up seeing in Try. Most of its flaws came from being a rushed, half-cooked project with a leader who didn't successfully make the jump from writer to director.
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All the arguments about Unicorn got me thinking: What is the unanimous best gundam show, and why is it G-Savior?
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Shinjobi posted:All the arguments about Unicorn got me thinking: What is the unanimous best gundam show? Build Fighters.
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