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The Australian Hero is voiced by an American doing a horrifically bad Australian accent and NONE OF HIS COSTUMES ARE A STEVE IRWIN COSTUME. gently caress you, Blizzard.
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Anyway if the tips I gave before for aiming zaryas gun werent enough, here's another one: load up Quake 3 and play around with the lightning gun for a few hours, then go back to Zarya. You'll be like goku stepping out of the hyperbolic time chamber.
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May 28, 2016 00:36
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Dias posted:I mean, it's the same poo poo as every other piece of media ever produced then. They know their fanbase and used stereotypes or play on stereotypes that will be easily recognizable by them. Same goes to any AAA-release, and the ones that shy away from those stereotypes are "pandering" to the "tumblrite", so there's no way to win here. Nah, not all media is so cynically produced, and not every character is a stereotype. It's the difference between, "this would make a cool character" and, "I bet those idiots will eat this poo poo up." For example, Tomb Raider 1996 versus Tomb Raider 2013. They're both trying to sell copies, sure, but the former's approach is "huge tits = sales, right dipshits?" whereas the latter says, "if we make a solid, relatable character, people will connect to her story"
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May 28, 2016 00:36
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I really should catch up on SMITE sometime. I lost track around when they made it so Items were no longer "Upgrade 1, 2, 3, DONE" and turned into Stock Moba Spreadsheet splits. I wonder if Arachne is still a giant spider with half a lady attached, or if they made her a lady with a few fake bug limbs like with scorpion lady? I know they turned Wu Kong from a monkey into a Buff Chinese Anime.
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May 28, 2016 00:36
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gandlethorpe posted:How do I feel less helpless playing Zenyatta on a team that doesn't stay close enough together to give line of sight or bodies to hide behind? He's probably the healer I prefer most, but unless there's at least one tank and one defense hero near me, I feel like some flanker or sniper is gonna oneshot me. You realize that zenyatta is not the right choice and pick someone else.
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May 28, 2016 00:37
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I don't think "Chinese-Canadian Climate Scientist" is a stereotype. Nor is "Non-Racist Australian Man With Polynesian Friend"
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May 28, 2016 00:37
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Dias posted:Please don't try to make everything you're around about yourself, darling. How is commenting on how stupid a conversation about character pandering, making it about me? poo poo always devolves into the most mundane crap when it comes to media discussion on these forums.
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May 28, 2016 00:37
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I'm pretty triggered by Symmetra's blue look. I bet a white person (who probably isn't even a god) designed that.
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May 28, 2016 00:37
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I think Zarya looks okay, but her goth costume is literally poo poo from my rear end. If you want to talk about pandering look at D.Va. She's the worst character in the game by a long shot but she gets played and talked about a ton (especially in this thread) because she's designed as jack off bait for people with anime avatars.
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May 28, 2016 00:37
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:Non-Racist Australian Man Blizzard has finally gone too far...
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May 28, 2016 00:38
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Thoughtless posted:How about Torbjörn though, he's Blizzard's idea of Sweden. I mean, I don't really sweat it, I just think it's funny. Blizz couldn't decide if they should go full Street Fighter or make characters that just so happened to be from X. Doesn't Torb say "I'm swedish!" as a joke on Scottish dwarves?
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May 28, 2016 00:38
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Nevermind, south Korean blackface? 
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May 28, 2016 00:38
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Dodoman posted:What's wrong with this one? Google Kali and you'll see more tits, arms and fewer clothes Also the character is indian, pharah is egyptin and not a native american.
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May 28, 2016 00:39
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Lucio might be from Canada since he likes hockey and isn't electric, like all Brazilians are.
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May 28, 2016 00:39
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:The Australian Hero is voiced by an American doing a horrifically bad Australian accent and NONE OF HIS COSTUMES ARE A STEVE IRWIN COSTUME. they didn't even give Road Hog one
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Cyron posted:Also the character is indian, pharah is egyptin and not a native american. Roadhog also isn't a shark.
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Knyteguy posted:How is commenting on how stupid a conversation about character pandering, making it about me? poo poo always devolves into the most mundane crap when it comes to media discussion on these forums. nice meltdodwn
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May 28, 2016 00:40
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Dias posted:I mean, I don't really sweat it, I just think it's funny. Blizz couldn't decide if they should go full Street Fighter or make characters that just so happened to be from X. Doesn't Torb say "I'm swedish!" as a joke on Scottish dwarves? This let me have the Swedish Chef spray that I wish I could use on all characters because gently caress yeah, Swedish chef. So a net gain, really.
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fadam posted:Roadhog also isn't a shark. Sharkface.
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objects in mirror posted:nice meltdodwn nice being gay
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May 28, 2016 00:41
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It's kind of hosed up how there are 3(?) American heroes in this game but none of them are fat and none of them have racist voice lines.
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May 28, 2016 00:41
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I had to check up on it and turns out Torbjörn is from my home city in Sweden. Welp, guess I can't play anyone else now. Time to embrace the dwarfness.
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May 28, 2016 00:41
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Zorodius posted:Nah, not all media is so cynically produced, and not every character is a stereotype. It's the difference between, "this would make a cool character" and, "I bet those idiots will eat this poo poo up." A more reasonable comparison would be the characters in Team Fortress 2. If only Genji and Zarya had the depth, creativity, and relatability of idiot soldier, douchey baseball bat guy, and piss-throwing aussie.
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May 28, 2016 00:42
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Thoughtless posted:I had to check up on it and turns out Torbjörn is from my home city in Sweden. Hooked by Blizzard's cynical pandering.
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GlitchThief posted:A more reasonable comparison would be the characters in Team Fortress 2. If only Genji and Zarya had the depth, creativity, and relatability of idiot soldier, douchey baseball bat guy, and piss-throwing aussie. I remember when piss jar became a thing and people list their food drat minds
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May 28, 2016 00:44
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fadam posted:It's kind of hosed up how there are 3(?) American heroes in this game but none of them are fat and none of them have racist voice lines. Soldier 76 literally beats the ever loving poo poo out of a bunch of Mexicans
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Knyteguy posted:nice being gay
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:Soldier 76 literally beats the ever loving poo poo out of a bunch of Mexicans Hmm, good point.
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May 28, 2016 00:44
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I need this skin so bad, it's wonderful.
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May 28, 2016 00:45
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Zorodius posted:Nah, not all media is so cynically produced, and not every character is a stereotype. It's the difference between, "this would make a cool character" and, "I bet those idiots will eat this poo poo up." Okay, lemme show you what I mean by "pandering means nothing": "Tomb Raider 2013 made Lara a 'strong female protagonist' and took out her two most defining characteristics to pander to the 'social justice' crew". "Tomb Raider 2013 made Lara an insecure wreck that moans really loud when she dies to pander to creepos that wanna protect their waifu". See? You say "cynically produced", I don't think "cynically deconstructed" helps much either. Overwatch bases itself on familiar stereotypes, but I don't think it was designed by commitee so that every character appealed to X person. Hell, every other modern shooter is worse when it comes to this. But arguing this leads nowhere (except to ironic detached posts) even if it is a discussion related to the game, so I'd rather drop it.
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Dodoman posted:What's wrong with this one? Google Kali and you'll see more tits, arms and fewer clothes Maybe you don't know how the internet works these days, but if a straight white guy says that something is offensive to women/gays/other ethnicities then that means it is, even if it isn't. BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:The Australian Hero is voiced by an American doing a horrifically bad Australian accent and NONE OF HIS COSTUMES ARE A STEVE IRWIN COSTUME. In a way that's better than Tracer: A British character played by a British voice actor that sounds like an American doing a horrifically bad British accent.
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fadam posted:Hmm, good point. He travels to another country just to murder the locals for no reason. He's The Most American.
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There was a guy in this thread who unironically tried to argue that Blizzard was racist because Lucio was a DJ lmao.
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Zenyatta could be pretty great with a number tweak but D.va is just in a terrible spot, she can't tank, can't do damage, her mobility is token because she can't follow it up, her ult can be mitigated by trivial cover, and Defense Matrix is the single worst ability in the game. I think having the mech do a single target size explode everytime it's destroyed would be perfect for her. I still don't think that would make her good but at least she could just boost her mech into a Bastion or turret and break a bunker instead of being worthless as is.
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:Lucio might be from Canada since he likes hockey and isn't electric, like all Brazilians are. Well, I mean... ...ice hockey is literally NOT a thing here. Because there's no ice. Although with "NFL fans" starting to pop up I wouldn't be surprised if I saw like a Chicago Blackhawks supporter one of these days. Oooh, here's my Brazilian character pitch: a Brazilian that wants to be an American super hard! Not even being ironic here.
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May 28, 2016 00:48
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Monomythian posted:Zenyatta could be pretty great with a number tweak but D.va is just in a terrible spot, she can't tank, can't do damage, her mobility is token because she can't follow it up, her ult can be mitigated by trivial cover, and Defense Matrix is the single worst ability in the game. We're talking about racism here friend, the thread for talking about game balance is here http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3777487
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GlitchThief posted:A more reasonable comparison would be the characters in Team Fortress 2. If only Genji and Zarya had the depth, creativity, and relatability of idiot soldier, douchey baseball bat guy, and piss-throwing aussie. I do find this kind of amusing because while I like the characters and it's nice they are trying to do worldbuilding? Really the "Two teams of assholes" would fit better for two sides fighting to the death to escort a robotic film director, than Wiston's whole "Please come back and save world guys" pitch to an assortment of tragic heroes mixed in with the psychotic assholes. I mean, video games, so I'm perfectly fine with the excuse plot having little to no bearing on the objective shootmans gameplay. But it is amusing to think about that intro while Winston punches a 19 year old girl to death to prevent the space rocket he invented from being launched. Victory!... wait, poo poo.
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:We're talking about racism here friend, the thread for talking about game balance is here Oh poo poo, I missed this!
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May 28, 2016 00:50
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Selane posted:Maybe you don't know how the internet works these days, but if a straight white guy says that something is offensive to women/gays/other ethnicities then that means it is, even if it isn't. The White Man's burden is truly heavy.
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Section Z posted:I do find this kind of amusing because while I like the characters and it's nice they are trying to do worldbuilding? Really the "Two teams of assholes" would fit better for two sides fighting to the death to escort a robotic film director, than Wiston's whole "Please come back and save world guys" pitch to an assortment of tragic heroes mixed in with the psychotic assholes. The Plot was for the MMO that was so awful Blizzard canned it and told them to make a new thing with all those assets or be fired.
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