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Current results are:quote:Tyler: 11 Anyone not listed has no votes.
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May 18, 2016 21:28
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Five votes for Milly, because it feels like we never use her
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Another five votes for Milly. If she's not gonna be helping the guild obliterate bosses with obscene ease, then she's gonna have to put in some leg work and explore like the rest of 'em.
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Five votes for Ursa I wanna see the bear
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Wow, that was still a pretty nice stomp of a boss fight. Melee alchemists are surprisingly viable.
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Rheine x5 Because princess is the best class. Glazius posted:Wow, that was still a pretty nice stomp of a boss fight. Melee alchemists are surprisingly viable. This is about where they start falling off a little bit, but if you have a chaser party they're still ridiculous because by themselves they can enable a bunch of chases. Compression is just a really powerful buff for single targets, and it's what keeps the formula alchemists rolling.
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Voting is closed...much to my chagrin. Why, you may ask?quote:Tyler: 16 Anyone not listed has no votes. I have both Phoebe and Ursa on the same team, two buffing supports, and Tyler and Rheine with only the Preludes for setup for Spear Assist or Link Order. This should be interesting.
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Looks like it's time to respec Ursa as a claw Beast! 
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Update 43: A Castle in the Stars  This party sucks and I hate you all. At least I'm only stuck with this for two floors, and we don't have any Ginnungagap to do this time.    Phoebe is largely unchanged, aside from maxing out Sentinel Guard. If you haven't read the Protector post yet, Sentinel Guard reduces all damage to the party for one turn, in addition to setting the party's defensive values (VIT, DEF, etc.) to the same as the caster's. The downside, though, is that it disables all other shield skills for one turn.    Ursa has been considerably reskilled. Because having both her as a tank and Phoebe on the same team would be redundant, I opted to instead invest in her claw skills--which are all pretty much trash, but whatever, better than nothing.    Tyler is basically no different. I ran out of points to put into Phys ATK Up, so I put some points in HP Up.    Milly has some more points in Song Mastery, and has maxed out Skanda Ensemble, which increases the turn speed of buffed allies for one turn. It's fairly useful for ensuring slower party members, like Hexers, act before enemies.    Rheine literally has not changed.   Incidentally, buy a ton of Blast Grenades before exploring the Heavenly Keep. Trust me.         Forest Bat HP: 486, STR: 37, TEC: 28, VIT: 28, AGI: 42, LUC: 28 Skills:
Disable resistances: A seemingly harmless forest resident, though some claim it transforms into a terrible monster! Forest Bats are a nuisance to most parties and big threats to parties with multiple caster classes (Medics, Alchemists, War Magi, Sovereigns) because of Harsh Buzz. There's one other big thing about them, but we'll see it later.   I guess one of the nice things about stacking two buffing supports is that I can raise everyone's damage and raise the front line's defense in the same turn, before any enemies can act.  Our front line being made up of three very durable classes, one of which is a Protector, is kind of nice as well.      If there's only front line enemies, too, Tyler and Ursa can generally either kill them all or whittle them down pretty heavily.  I want Phoebe to learn Parry, so I start investing in Phys DEF Up. Level 1 unlocked Provoke, which I don't care about.     Sky Metal Knights patrol a preset path, but will aggro you if you enter their cone of sight, and then pursue you until you leave the room. This one's easy to dodge because of that small impassable pillar, but I wanted to map out the other side first.    Mandrake HP: 456, STR: 36, TEC: 29, VIT: 28, AGI: 31, LUC: 30 Skills:
Disable resistances: A plant whose shriek is said to bring death to those who hear it. Mandrakes are why I said you should bring tons of Blast Grenades with you to the 5th Stratum. Last Cry is basically guaranteed instant death if the Mandrake gets it off...but that's something that shouldn't happen, since you should have Blast Grenades. Don't be like me my first few times playing the game, and not bring Blast Grenades, meaning any encounter with a Mandrake was a race to kill it on the first turn. Mandrakes were considerably worse in the original EO2, where Last Cry (called Shriek there) was only a 35% base chance, but didn't require a turn be spent charging it, and even worse, the Mandrake AI in that game gave them a 50% chance to use it when the player was blindsided.  Gem Lizard HP: 655, STR: 41, TEC: 30, VIT: 32, AGI: 33, LUC: 28 Skills:
Disable resistances: A reptilian creature with a perfect gem embedded in its head. Gem Lizards are a pretty big nuisance. For one thing, they cut all elemental damage in half...not that it matters for this party. Secondly, Headbutt both deals not-insignificant damage, and can stun, which can really suck if they stun the wrong person. It's not AS likely as it could be, since their LUC is kind of on the low end and the base chance is 40%, but you should still be wary of it.   If there's one thing I can give to stacking both a Protector and Beast in the same party, it's that Ursa is incredibly difficult to kill.   Ursa's semi-low AGI and LUC along with claws having -1 base accuracy compared to swords means her missing is a bit more common compared to everyone else.     Just keep some Blast Grenades on you at all times, and Mandrakes shouldn't pose much of a threat.   I can't get past that Sky Metal Knight without killing it, so back to the other one we go.     Oh poo poo, oh gently caress.  Run run run!     The attack buff part of Slaughter Blade is just insult to injury.     Back we go.   Alright, let's try this again.   In basically every EO game, the rule of thumb with FOEs that take one step for every step you take is that, if there's a small pillar like the one here, you have to lead the FOE around the pillar to progress.   Once you've gotten the Sky Metal Knight to loop around the pillar, you're good.   We now have two Sky Metal Knights to get around.   This is what you DON'T want to do: aggro both of them at once.   Thankfully, with the two of them in those positions as I enter the room, I can just run straight to the door.   Aw gently caress, the ONE enemy I didn't want to see with this party.  Iron Tortoise HP: 2073, STR: 50, TEC: 35, VIT: 38, AGI: 21, LUC: 37 Skills:
Disable resistances: Centuries-old and still as violent a hunter as it ever was! This party legitimately cannot kill this thing before it kills them. Cripple hurts far too much and arm binds completely shut down everyone on the front line. My only option here is to run--any time I run into an Iron Tortoise with this party, I just run.  I apologize if it seems like I'm not even making an effort, but trust me, these things are a pain to deal with even with good parties.    This is a chop point, incidentally.   SYSTEM: The front of the box displays pictures of three strange-looking dishes. Under each image is a glowing protrusion with a name. You are curious about the machine, and tempted to push the protrusions with the names written on them. SYSTEM: You cautiously press on the protrusion, which elicits a chirping sound followed by a deep growling noise from somewhere! SYSTEM: Though you draw your weapons out of caution, all that emerges from the giant box is a paper container of warm soup! A delicious smell wafts from it, causing your stomachs to gurgle. Yet it is missing something; there are no ingredients in it. SYSTEM: You examine the picture of the dish closely and see that it uses the breast meat of a black chicken. But as you have no such ingredient, you simply sip the soup as is. The taste is slightly bland, but the soup's warmth seeps through your body, melting away your fatigue!  SYSTEM: You look to the box again and find that the pictures have vanished. It now only displays the words, “That's all for today!" It seems you may return here for more soup tomorrow... You think it might be a good idea to mark this place on your map as you return to exploring with a fuller stomach.   W E L P   loving GREAT.        If I die one tile away from the Geomagnetic Pole I swear to loving god       That was closer than I would've liked.   I could take the stairs, but there's one area I want to map.    Tyler got a level up from a boring random encounter, which just goes into HP Up.   SYSTEM: Clad in fine armor, and with a sword resting at its side, you conclude that this must be the remains of an adventurer. It looks like it's been here a long time. Perhaps another explorer reached the flying castle before your arrival? SYSTEM: Something stirs in your memory. You recall something Cass told you... Indeed, before the Labyrinth is discovered, there was an adventurer who set out to reach the castle in the sky. Perhaps this skeleton is what remains of the explorer Cass spoke of. SYSTEM: If you think this skeleton is what remains of Cass's old friend, then you can leave the coin here to settle his debt... SYSTEM: You kneel to place the coin in its hand, and find it grasping a scrap of parchment. As you scan it, you realize you were correct... It appears to be a letter, likely written shortly before death...and it's addressed to Cass himself!  SYSTEM: You leave the gold coin in the skeleton's hand in exchange for the parchment, and offer a silent prayer. You set the parchment carefully in your bag, and take your leave of the place.   I have made a very big mistake. Remember how the Ladybug enemies would summon other enemies if they were alone?   Forest Bats do the same. Except infinitely worse.     Cursed Knights are FOEs from the next floor that you really don't want to screw with. They have 62 STR, and to give you an idea of their primary gimmick, Dark Blade inflicts blind on targets it doesn't kill...and it has a 200% base chance. The Cursed Knight's other skill inflicts instant death on hit targets if it doesn't kill them, again, with a 200% base chance. The gimmick there is that it has 1 base accuracy--but remember, blind disables evasion. You also can't bind its arms--it's immune to arm binds. F U N.   Let's pretend nothing happened, and we just proceeded normally after giving the coin to the skeleton.    Another chop point.   I used the stairs at this point to reset my encounter meter.    SYSTEM: The question perplexes you, but the mysterious voice has not finished speaking... SYSTEM: The mysterious voice falls silent once again. You have no choice but to press onward...   SYSTEM: It seems to have been neglected for years, but it somehow manages to catch your interest. Though pressing it seems to accomplish nothing, before long a disembodied voice sounds. SYSTEM: The mysterious voice abruptly ends there. You cock your head, marveling at the strange phenomenon, before returning to your quest.  Well, that was certainly a thing.      A good reward for a simple quest. I do like that the game gives Cass a little bit of backstory, even if it's just in the confines of one quest. It's part of why he's my favorite bartender/quest giver in the EO series.  In any case, time for town dialogue.       Campaigns. Why are two of them missing, you may ask?           That's why. A giant group plus a festival equals cash for Eddy.   Exhausted Tramonte: I want to know how, exactly, Tramonte not only managed to kill a Cursed Knight, but get its conditional too. Freckled boy:   Oh, right, I need to send the Byeahs on a foraging mission after I finish talking to everyone.     Here are the intermediate results of the Byeahs' virtuous mission.  Virtuous mission complete!      We get more Metopons, Unihorns, and EXP for turning in 10 Ironwoods.  Song Mastery now gives a 90% speed increase to song skills instead of 80%.  White Noble's static heal now heals for 3 more.  I turned in those earlier quests to make room in our quest log for these new ones (ignoring The beautiful princess and The Test of Courage). Healing innovations: We'll get on that in a bit. Adventurers' Bond: Again, we'll get on that in a bit. I retook The Test of Courage for reasons I...don't entirely remember, upon reflection, so we'll take on Small comforts later.  We'll watch the Byeahs' Second Virtuous Mission, plus 22F, next time! I cannot wait to be free of this party. Rea fucked around with this message at 16:06 on May 26, 2016 |
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Ragnar Homsar posted:Mandrakes are why I said you should bring tons of Blast Grenades with you to the 5th Stratum. Last Cry is basically guaranteed instant death if the Mandrake gets it off...but that's something that shouldn't happen, since you should have Blast Grenades. Don't be like me my first few times playing the game, and not bring Blast Grenades, meaning any encounter with a Mandrake was a race to kill it on the first turn. You don't 100% need them if you have a class with a lot of slash or fire damage, and are quick about taking them down. Most of the damage classes can do that. It is still definitely helpful to have a few just incase multiple use it at the same time. Unfortunately, uh, you don't have the luxury of damage right now.
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I feel the need to defensively point out that I am not fully responsible for this party, only one of my votes made it in. But it's still amusing to watch the struggle.
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Ah, the Fifth Stratum. Best Stratum theme in the game, but it's a terrible place to go through. You know you're in for a rough time when the first FOE is a giant robot dual-wielding lightsabers.
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There's a !GAUNTLET up there you missed.
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theshim posted:There's a !GAUNTLET up there you missed. You'd think by this point I'd be able to consistently remember what names I assigned icons in FaceCopy.  Fixed.
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I get the feeling we'll be seeing Ranger will be fixing the world several more times over the course of the next floor. gently caress some of these floors in here.
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Dang. They dump all those killers on you right at the doorway? The castle is a different place entirely.
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Update 44: Big   That's right, the Byeahs were the first ones to set foot in 22F proper, since the Take points had materials I needed for an ultimately-failed experiment.    SYSTEM: In that case, there is no cause for alarm. You put the armor out of your mind and return to your investigation. Well, the game's being kind of truthful, but believe me, these are not just inanimate statues.   SYSTEM: A short distance away is an inexplicable object floating in the air.  SYSTEM: Just as you are about to approach the mysterious floating object, it makes a sudden noise and begins to move!     SYSTEM: The explosion was quite powerful... It was potent enough to disintegrate the armor, and surely enough to vaporize you as well. The floating object seems to have been a bomb to ward against intruders. You suspect you have not seen the last of these bombs, and vow to take even more caution in your search for the Grail. Bombs are a first for the EO series: a dynamic obstacle. They move 3 spaces forward from their spawn point, and if you end up on the same axis as them (meaning you are on the same X or Y plane as them), they will change direction and head for you. If you collide with them, your entire party takes 100 damage. They can also destroy any FOEs in their path, as we just saw. This will be the core of pretty much every FOE puzzle in the Heavenly Keep from here on out.    Their spawn points look like that.   5th Stratum Take points are incredibly important, because of the fact that they give Odd Fruits.    And that's why.  Unlocking Hamaos meant we finished Healing innovations.     Cass, we are not your trash can, please deposit your trash elsewhere.  Still working towards Parry.  An extra 1% max TP for Ursa.  Now that I've cleared out a space, let's take on Small comforts. We'll see the enemies Yellow Gelatin comes from on 22F.  Also, note that while Small comforts is active, Quona cannot be at the inn's front desk.  At this point, I just walked around 1F for several in-game hours to pass the time to finish the ad campaign, and hopefully Haute cuisine.  AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA    I did some upgrades at this point. Every area that isn't fully upgraded is now one upgrade away from being fully developed. Those final upgrades are not cheap, mind--the North Ward costs 69k en to finish, Uptown costs 58k, and the South Ward costs 50k.     I cooked because I could. Nest and Mushroom Soup restores 20 Force to someone when they have an ailment/bind inflicted on them. Like every other food of this nature, it's garbage. Zhulongbao gives the party 80% resistance to head binds. This is pretty useful for parties with multiple classes that rely on the head--Medics, Alchemists, War Magi, Sovereigns, etc.          Ignoring the big group in Uptown might've been a mistake, but none of the foods they'll eat overlap with the other groups in the area.    While I'm clearing out the quest log, might as well do Labyrinth groundskeeping. SYSTEM: Do you remember the quest you accepted at the bar? The farmers asked you to prune some of Yggdrasil's branches from a few places in the forest. This seems to be the place they mentioned... You can choose to prune the branches, and apply the tonic that Cass gave you. SYSTEM: You take a moment to prune a few branches that are extending into the air outside, and apply the tonic you received. After bundling up the cut branches, you set off on your way to the next location.     Rinse and repeat. SYSTEM: You have pruned all the branches from the places that had been pointed out to you. This completes the quest. However, you still appear to have some tonic left... You can choose to look around for other overgrown branches, or you can return and report your progress at the bar.   You pretty much have to kind of find this spot by luck. You can check this spot before taking on Labyrinth groundskeeping, and the game will give you dialogue about overgrown branches here, but again, there's nothing otherwise indicating this spot is special. SYSTEM: You take a moment to prune a few extra branches that are extending into the air outside Yggdrasil. One of the branches is practically the size of a tree itself... It would make a fine source of wood for the town stocks. SYSTEM: However, at the final chop, the branch sags with a groan of wood, and snaps off...plummeting down towards ground level. SYSTEM: Nonplussed, you watch the branch vanish from sight. After a moment, you deem it a lost cause, and sheepishly apply the tonic. You have now used up all the tonic, and gathered a great amount of lumber. All that remains is to return to the bar when you have time, and report your progress!      2% more extra max HP for Tyler.   SYSTEM: It seems to have been neglected for years, but it somehow manages to catch your interest. Though pressing it seems to accomplish nothing, before long a disembodied voice sounds. SYSTEM: The mysterious voice abruptly ends there. You cock your head, marveling at the strange phenomenon, before returning to your quest. Well, no time like the present to explain some backstory. The setting of every EO game (barring EO5, from what we've seen so far) is Earth. Y'know, our Earth. The one you're living on right now. EO2U has referenced this maybe one time (Cass talking about Ontario in his dialogue for Hidden Hot Springs), and it's not brought up at all in the original EO2, EO3, and EO4. However, it was a key plot point in EO1, even if it wasn't revealed until the last stratum. For those of you who haven't played EO1 or EOU, the 5th Stratum in that game is called Lost Shinjuku; as in, the actual location in Japan, all but directly stating that Etria exists on top of the ruins of modern Japan. Additionally, right before you fight EO1's final boss, he tells you the history of EO's setting: quote:Long, long ago... A civilization greater than our own flourished. Its people had solved all the world's mysteries and had power to rival the gods. This power was called science. Mankind gained dominion over nature and life itself. But humanity's technology also cast a dark shadow over its future. Their forecasts and projections increasingly showed their own imminent demise. (Everything after that is relevant only to EO1.) Basically, we hosed everything up in a future not far off from the present day, and pollution plus climate change nearly exterminated humanity, which led to the Yggdrasil Project, spread across seven different locations on the planet. While only Etria and an unseen town called Gotham were stated to be Yggdrasil Project locations in EOU, EO2U's Story mode (not to give away too much) also states that Lagaard's Yggdrasil is part of the project. Armoroad (EO3)'s Yggdrasil has nothing to do with any of this, mind you, and EO4's Yggdrasil is similar to the ones involved with the Yggdrasil Project, but as far as I can tell, it's not related. What does any of this have to do with that dialogue just above, or EO2's setting as a whole? Aside from "Environmental changes...still happening...everything...inevitable extinction," refer back to the intro text in the OP, which was part of the original EO2's intro: quote:When civilization sunk beneath the seven seas, deep forests spread across the five remaining islands. Basically, the effects of climate change manifested in Lagaard (which, going by the location and climate, is probably somewhere where Russia (maybe Siberia) presently is) as massive flooding. To escape this, a group of people built an ark--the Heavenly Keep--and went to the skies. Dubois and Gradriel have both mentioned this, but after a while, some of the ark's residents' descendants chose to go back to Earth, presumably after the flooding had subsided and the climate had been partially fixed by the Yggdrasil Project, and founded High Lagaard. The only hanger-on was, evidently, whoever ended up becoming the Overlord that's still taunting us as we go through this place. For a series whose main setpiece is very much directly taken from Norse mythology, EO2's backstory and even some stuff in the postgame is weirdly Judeo-Christian.    Yellow Gel HP: 464, STR: 41, TEC: 31, VIT: 30, AGI: 27, LUC: 31 Skills:
Disable resistances: An oozing gel creature that uses its body to restrain enemies on the battlefield. Yellow Gels are very much support monsters, and really irritating ones that you should kill last. Having them buff up other enemies (usually) isn't as bad as most likely having 4 or 5 party members paralyzed. I will note that Power Gel is one of two very special skills that has a special buff effect. Instead of increasing the target's action speed, like the game says, it actually multiplies their AGI stat directly. This doesn't mean a ton for enemies, but Power Gel and the other skill like it are very popular for parties that have Survivalists and Gunners, since it functions as both a 30% normal damage buff, and then an extra 60% AGI boost. (Note that those numbers probably do not result in a 108% damage buff for AGI attackers, since a 60% increase in AGI most likely does not equal a 60% increase in damage.)    Beast Dance has whiffed on me a lot (off-screen), so I decided to try a different method of using Ursa.   That damage is comparable to Beast Dance, but keep in mind that Link Order II is only at level 5, I think, and more importantly, can't ever miss.   This is why I said you should leave Yellow Gels for last.  Most of your party being paralyzed is so much more dangerous when the Yellow Gel is accompanying an enemy that isn't just another Yellow Gel.    Black Wing HP: 900, STR: 48, TEC: 33, VIT: 35, AGI: 38, LUC: 35 Skills:
Disable resistances: A deathly dinosaur that can prey on multiple targets at once. Remember Wild Wings from the 1st Stratum? Remember how they were pretty big pains? Black Wings are literally just Wild Wings with higher stats.      At least I'm not hurting for elemental coverage--Phoebe has access to the Preludes for each element, even if Ice and Volt Prelude are both at level 1.    At least Beaked Rush isn't instant-kill territory any more.   This is the last bomb puzzle in the stratum that only involves dodging bombs, instead of blowing up FOEs. There's probably only of these because you can just eat the bomb damage and go on, especially if you have a Medic.   There's also not a lot you can really do with these kinds of puzzles.     SYSTEM: The air about this armor is very different from before, and you feel a sense of menace directed at you! What you had taken for a decorative suit of armor was in fact a monster set to eliminate intruders!   SYSTEM: Though you have seen for yourself how the floating bombs can easily obliterate the armor threatening you now... You must take pains to avoid both this monstrous armor and the flying bombs as you search for the path to a new floor. And so begins the first FOEs plus bombs puzzle. Cursed Knights have pretty simple movement rules: they'll aggro on you once you're in their direct line of sight, and then take one step toward you for every step you take.         Well, that one was pretty easy.   There's a Take point in a small room to the right of that area, incidentally.  I went back to town to restock on Somas, since the bombs were draining me dry very quickly.     You've got a lot of room to move in this area, so blowing up both of the Cursed Knights is super easy.   Baiting both of the knights into being in front of the bomb spawner is the easiest way to go about this.   Same deal as the other ailment gasses: 40% base chance to inflict curse on all enemies. Blech.   You gotta be loving KIDDING ME   OH gently caress I ACCIDENTALLY HIT THE L BUTTON AND STARTED AUTO-BATTLE      For the record, that idiocy happened because I disabled the confirmation prompt for auto-battle while I was grinding everyone for Harpuia. ALWAYS CHECK YOUR SETTINGS, FOLKS.   I didn't mention it earlier, but when you aggro one Cursed Knight in a room, they will all aggro on you. This particular area's the last one on the floor, but it's pretty annoying due to how wide it is, plus how little walking room you actually have.         The Cursed Knight on the far right...just killed itself, I guess, since I never saw it show up on the map screen.   Incidentally, like how Petal Bridge floors were circle-shaped, Heavenly Keep floors are all oval-shaped.    SYSTEM: The question rings in your ears as if a corporeal presence had spoken it not two feet away. SYSTEM: The mysterious voice takes on a slightly taunting tone, as if amused. SYSTEM: The voice falls silent. Whatever it spoke of is beyond your understanding... But from what you could deduce, a fearsome enemy awaits you on this very floor! Your heart races as you proceed through the Labyrinth with the utmost caution...        SYSTEM: The voice speaks with a ghastly cheer before fading away. It would seem that your only avenue forward is to defeat this monster... But beware! You can easily believe that this monster is far stronger than anything you have faced thus far! It will take all your strength and expertise to stand against it!   GODDAMMIT. If I had loving appealed to the big group in Uptown instead of trying to appeal to multiple groups I probably would've gotten enough to finish Haute cuisine.          If some of my decisions seem weird, keep in mind that I'm trying to appeal to multiple groups.  Hanna's still saying her Small comforts dialogue.     The Gallant ronin is part of Adventurers' Bond, so let's just talk to the Haughty doctor.   That's all for now. Next time: the sole 23F quest, finishing up some other quests, and after that, Juggernaut. Rea fucked around with this message at 09:42 on May 31, 2016 |
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Juggernaut pre-fight overview Juggernaut HP: 72000 (can be lowered to ~43200), STR: 60, TEC: 45, VIT: 49, AGI: 28, LUC: 51 Skills:
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An ancient protector, dreaded for its tough skin and myriad of horns and claws. (I apologize for the lack of a fancy render, but my 3DS model viewer doesn't map Juggernaut's textures to his mesh correctly.) Juggernaut is my favorite boss in EO2U, and very high on my list of favorite bosses from the entire series. He doesn't have any summons to deal with, first off--that's already a huge plus in his favor. Secondly, who doesn't like a boss that gives you an almost-free 100% damage buff? Thirdly, instead of being a test of how well your party can wipe out summons before a designated "gently caress you" turn, Juggernaut tests you on how well you can create a party that can handle a fairly varied skillset, and work around both limits on how you can use buffs, and a direct counter to the most effective method of damaging him. I really can't tell you a lot more about his skills that you couldn't infer from the descriptions, so just one more thing: notice how Juggernaut has only 28 AGI, and all of his skills have 10% speed modifiers. He's basically the single slowest enemy in the game, and even our slowest party members (Colette, Jackie, pretty much any staff user) can probably outspeed him. So, let's move on to party member descriptions, shall we? Damage dealers Defense Support Vote for a maximum of five party members, at least one from each category. Don't vote for the same party member more than twice, though--that did not work out so well last time. Rea fucked around with this message at 05:41 on May 31, 2016 |
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Ragnar Homsar posted:
Cass' dialogue repeats twice here, and Ranger's portrait is missing in his dialogue. Ranger, Milly, Jackie, Ursa, Sophie
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Cass' dialogue repeats twice here, and Ranger's portrait is missing in his dialogue. I noticed the stray !RANGERs before you posted them, but I didn't notice the Cass repeat. Thanks. (I should really just delete that stupid hat portrait, I always get tripped up by the fact that I had to rename Ranger's normal portrait to !RANGER1 because of it)
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Ranger, Phoebe, Tyler, Stardust, Milly. At this point, I want another bloodbath.
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Ranger, Jackie, Stardust, Pheobe, Milly. All the damage! 
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Jackie, Ranger, Phoebe, Milly, Rheine Let's just ruin this thing's day.
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May 30, 2016 22:01
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Ranger, Nadia, Phoebe, Rheine, and Colette. Go Story Mode on this thing.
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May 30, 2016 22:21
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Current results are:quote:Ranger: 5 That's a lot of characters with two votes.
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May 30, 2016 23:38
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Dang. Is this the first mid-stratum boss? And it's a real whopper, too.
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May 31, 2016 00:05
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Glazius posted:Dang. Is this the first mid-stratum boss? And it's a real whopper, too. If you don't count Guild Esbat as "mid-stratum" (they are on the same floor, after all), then yes, it is.
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May 31, 2016 00:07
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Glazius posted:Dang. Is this the first mid-stratum boss? And it's a real whopper, too. Nah, EO1/EOU had Royalant/Queen Ant on the 2nd floor of the 3rd Stratum as well. EO3 and EO4 don't have mid-stratum bosses, though (not counting side quests), probably because of the shorter strata lengths in both of them.
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May 31, 2016 00:07
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Ranger, Jackie, Phoebe, Rheinex2 I'd say Princess is fairly important for this battle, since it's much better to have their full skillset than just the Clearance grimoire the game gives you.
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May 31, 2016 00:29
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You have a SLEEP on Black Wing. Bring Ranger and Milly. I want big numbers. Phoebe and Sophie can come too since only one side really needs big numbers. And I guess Rheine can help on the big numbers train too.
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May 31, 2016 01:00
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Realga, Ursa x3, Ranger I still wanna see the bear actually do tanking
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May 31, 2016 04:55
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Allstone posted:Realga, Ursa x3, Ranger I still wanna see the bear actually do tanking I'll take 2 of the Ursa votes, the Realga vote, and the Ranger vote, but you can only vote for a character twice. Do you want to vote for someone else, or just have the vote be my choice?
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May 31, 2016 04:57
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Actually, no, never mind, I'm closing voting.quote:Ranger: 8 I just finished a pretty good test run with the winning party of Phoebe, Ranger, Milly, Jackie, and Rheine, and I felt it was actually a pretty good fight! Still over pretty quickly, but not as quickly as stuff like Basilisk or Scylla. Choice quote:9:20 PM - Ragnar Homsar: I am killing Juggernaut quote:9:24 PM - Ragnar Homsar: JACKIE quote:9:28 PM - Ragnar Homsar: I FORGOT TO DISPEL quote:9:50 PM - Ragnar Homsar: WHAT THE gently caress That last one was a bit of a rude surprise; the @wiki (or at least what I can decipher of its Google Translate spew) didn't mention that. Rea fucked around with this message at 06:07 on May 31, 2016 |
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May 31, 2016 06:04
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Ragnar Homsar posted:I'll take 2 of the Ursa votes, the Realga vote, and the Ranger vote, but you can only vote for a character twice. Do you want to vote for someone else, or just have the vote be my choice? Sorry, my bad. I'll try and read the voting rules better next time.
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May 31, 2016 08:01
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Ragnar Homsar posted:Actually, no, never mind, I'm closing voting. I ran a party that wasn't anywhere close to having the damage to take out the Juggernaut or even anything to deal with his skills on my classic run, and boy was I sad when I got owned by King's Rush after blowing a Riot Gun charge on him. It's kind of lovely it works that way because that almost mandates having a tank to null the damage. At least the game is nice enough to toss you appropriate grimoires sometimes.
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SC Bracer posted:I ran a party that wasn't anywhere close to having the damage to take out the Juggernaut or even anything to deal with his skills on my classic run, and boy was I sad when I got owned by King's Rush after blowing a Riot Gun charge on him. It's kind of lovely it works that way because that almost mandates having a tank to null the damage. At least the game is nice enough to toss you appropriate grimoires sometimes. I mean, I had Rheine and White Noble at the ready, I was just getting lax with dispelling Berserk Cry because I was sure I could completely stop Violent Cry with War Song and King's Rush with Supreme Bolt. In the end, the recorded fight basically came down to Ranger shredding off around 15000 HP from Juggernaut with an Accelerate combo + Crusade, and then Jackie finishing off Juggernaut with Supreme Bolt. If the fight had gone on for even one turn longer, I probably wouldn't have made it. Also Fetus theorized that the reason Eradicate hurts so much is that it applies the defense debuff before dealing the damage, and while that sounds plausible, it'd also be the only case of that happening in the entire game. (Fun fact: I couldn't actually do anything with Shock Fantasia because Ad Nihilo dispels both buffs and debuffs, meaning any time I purged off Berserk Cry or Reckless Barrier from Jugg, it would also purge off Shock Fantasia.)
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