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“So-called Top Gear“ has never been more accurate.
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# ? May 31, 2016 05:56 |
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I watched the BBC version online but I noticed on my DirecTV listings BBC America had the premiere as two hours long. Did they manage to come up with an entire hour of commercials to stick in there, or are they showing Top Gear and Extra Gear back to back and trimming out a third of each to fit commercials into, or some other option?
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# ? May 31, 2016 06:33 |
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Extra gear is only about half an hour.
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# ? May 31, 2016 06:34 |
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I liked the new track format, with the rallycross-style jumps and mud driving. I thought it was interesting. I'm trying to think of what else I liked. That Nomad thingie looked like it would be fun to drive. That segment where they invaded the training village in California with the WRX was pretty entertaining.
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# ? May 31, 2016 08:21 |
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Wow. I'm not getting out the torch and pitchfork just yet, but this setup is obviously... raw. I liked the genuine enthusiasm from the Extra Gear crew, Sabine trying to quote Top Gun, and Matt talking to the camera. Chris Evans needs to play to the camera and not the studio audience. And lose his radio fear of not filling every single second with his own voice. And maybe not so much fake emotion. Chris Harris just needs time to get comfortable in front of a camera crew. Rory is great and why isn't he on the main show. There are good parts. But not enough of them yet. At least it's still got gorgeous cinematography.
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# ? May 31, 2016 08:39 |
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Ola posted:Insecure much? He's going to meltdown on his radio show today.
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# ? May 31, 2016 08:48 |
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Never heard anything of Evans before, made a point not to check anything of his out before TG aired and honestly couldn't imagine he was as bad as people who have already watched this thing were saying... Watching now and how does this man have a radio show? His voice and mannerisms make me want to force the blunt end of a dinner spoon into my ears. At least the show still looks nice.
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# ? May 31, 2016 11:38 |
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This is the first time i've watched a Top Gear where the mute button actually improved it. Couldnt watch the first bit of the Viper section with sound on. Evans is such an absolute cockwad...
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# ? May 31, 2016 11:41 |
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I didn't care for Evans all that much either, but Leblanc was kind of stilted too, even in the segments. His face had a "I'm not entirely sure what to do, better smile and nod" look throughout both the studio and film bits. Just make Extra Gear a permanent trio with Sabine and make that the Top Gear crew, imo. I like Chris Harris.
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# ? May 31, 2016 13:21 |
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Evans has an OK radio voice, but on the radio he does not have to shout. When he does, like in this episode, he's grating and insufferable.
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# ? May 31, 2016 13:28 |
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Harris sitting in a studio isn't all that great (still fine though). He should be live on the TV behind Sabine and Rory conversing while driving something very fast around a track, then you get the best out of him. I would watch that news segment.
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# ? May 31, 2016 13:33 |
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There were little nuggets where I thought that maybe given some time that it could work. LeBlanc was great during the filmed bit, but it is really hard to replace the chemistry that came with doing it for so long, and I didn't think that it would be an instant meshing of personalities, but Evans is just tough to want to watch during the studio segments.
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# ? May 31, 2016 14:03 |
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davebo posted:I watched the BBC version online but I noticed on my DirecTV listings BBC America had the premiere as two hours long. Did they manage to come up with an entire hour of commercials to stick in there, or are they showing Top Gear and Extra Gear back to back and trimming out a third of each to fit commercials into, or some other option? I watched on bbca last night. There were a poo poo load of commercials. They threw one in the middle of SIARPC for some reason, even. Was the BBC broadcast one only 60 minutes? Then if so, it was a minute of show to a minute of commercial. Regarding the actual show, the Chris guy seemed like he was on coke, and Matt seemed like he drank a roofie colada. Hopefully they can even out or something.
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# ? May 31, 2016 15:21 |
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It's gone guys.
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# ? May 31, 2016 15:24 |
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I think the biggest problem is how jarring it is going from the previous presenters to the current presenters. Between Clarkson, Hammond and May, Hammond was the shoutiest and he wasn't usually front-and-center. Clarkson and May's style was laid back - they weren't trying to sell you anything. It was more, they were treating you, the viewer, as one of them - a car guy, knowledgeable BUT check out this new Corvette. With Evans, he's more like a salesman - shouty, assuming you don't know much about cars, hoping you don't know much about cars, p.s. please like us! There isn't a friendship with the viewer, it's more a business relationship where he's trying to sell you on this show. And it doesn't work. Leblanc reminds me a lot of Adam Ferrara. In a good way, mind you.
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# ? May 31, 2016 15:54 |
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The best thing Clarkson ever did was kill top gear
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# ? May 31, 2016 16:02 |
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I really wanted to like it but chris evans is just so much worse than I expected. There are some glimmers of hope but he's so ridiculously fake and annoying it just ruins everything. Leblanc seems fine, a little forced but he can get a pass for now since presenting a show like this isnt really his thing. I think he just needs a cohost that is actually likable enough for them to play off each other in a genuine way.
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# ? May 31, 2016 16:05 |
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Long Francesco posted:I really wanted to like it but chris evans is just so much worse than I expected. There are some glimmers of hope but he's so ridiculously fake and annoying it just ruins everything. Leblanc seems fine, a little forced but he can get a pass for now since presenting a show like this isnt really his thing. I think he just needs a cohost that is actually likable enough for them to play off each other in a genuine way. I agree, but what about the new series?
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# ? May 31, 2016 16:07 |
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Long Francesco posted:I really wanted to like it but chris evans is just so much worse than I expected. There are some glimmers of hope but he's so ridiculously fake and annoying it just ruins everything. Leblanc seems fine, a little forced but he can get a pass for now since presenting a show like this isnt really his thing. I think he just needs a cohost that is actually likable enough for them to play off each other in a genuine way. Agreed. LeBlanc is fine and will likely get better, but would benefit from someone that he had better chemistry with, which is probably anyone but the shouting ginger. That guy is just bad. The rumors of them not getting along are probably somewhat true. There's just zero chemistry there and it comes off as maybe 'they don't like each other'. They probably get along fine, but there's no magic.
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# ? May 31, 2016 16:16 |
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Tide posted:Agreed. LeBlanc is fine and will likely get better, but would benefit from someone that he had better chemistry with, which is probably anyone but the shouting ginger. That guy is just bad. LeBlanc gets a guest spot on Gran Tour
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# ? May 31, 2016 17:02 |
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FACT: Top Gear can be easily fixed if someone lights a giant grease fire in a Taco Bell dumpster and then throws Chris Evans into it.
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# ? May 31, 2016 18:16 |
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KakerMix posted:LeBlanc gets a guest spot on Gran Tour Not a terrible idea.
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# ? May 31, 2016 18:25 |
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Looks like the reviewers were pretty down it the first episode, which is not surprising at all.
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# ? May 31, 2016 18:36 |
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CornHolio posted:Between Clarkson, Hammond and May, Hammond was the shoutiest and he wasn't usually front-and-center. Clarkson and May's style was laid back Jeremy "POWER!" Clarkson isn't shouty?
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# ? May 31, 2016 18:40 |
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KKKLIP ART posted:Looks like the reviewers were pretty down it the first episode, which is not surprising at all. Also worst TV ratings in like 10 years. The best parts of TGUK were the B-list American actor being as as possible, the middle-aged German woman who mangled Top Gun quotes and made an American fighter pilot puke, and the 2 non-whites who got deported to the after-show ghetto at the end.
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# ? May 31, 2016 18:53 |
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howe_sam posted:Jeremy "POWER!" Clarkson isn't shouty? He's usually more oafish than brash, a kind of orangutan who learned the received pronunciation, yet sometimes sees a mirror and begins to thump his chest and shout before realizing he's being watched by the handlers. Hammond was more of the exuberant one who wanted to pretend he was eight years old again
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# ? May 31, 2016 18:55 |
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KakerMix posted:LeBlanc gets a guest spot on Gran Tour Well the previous lot did that episode with their mums, I'm sure this could work as well.
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# ? May 31, 2016 19:05 |
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fyodor posted:Chris Evans' voice is unlistenable. How does he have a career in radio? Or in front of a lense? It's an indication of how dire British prime time TV & radio was in the mid-90's that he came across as a breath of fresh air back then. Plus he usually had sidekicks & musical interludes to dilute his dickishness.
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# ? May 31, 2016 19:46 |
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howe_sam posted:Jeremy "POWER!" Clarkson isn't shouty? He knew when to be quiet. He usually wasn't very shouty in the studio.
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# ? May 31, 2016 19:51 |
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I liked Rory over Evans 100 times better as the exuberant host type, but he's such a happy young pup (without a fleet of Ferrari's yet, sadly) so he won't get that top job for a while. I can't think of any aspect of hosting the show that Rory wouldn't have done better except maybe slobbering up to Gordon Ramsey. LeBlanc is fine he just needs someone to talk smack back to him (like one Jeremy Clarkson.) He would fit right in to TGUSA, and he's a freaking hundred millionaire or something from all his Friends $$$$ so he has got to personally own some ridiculous cars (which I don't think was mentioned). Top and Extra I don't see as living separately for long and we know Harris can be a smartass with random Americans and do road trips like on Drive. I want Sabine to make me barf. Keyser_Soze fucked around with this message at 20:15 on May 31, 2016 |
# ? May 31, 2016 20:12 |
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Whats been the UK reception of the show, and in particular, LeBlanc?
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# ? May 31, 2016 23:35 |
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The UK reception has been identical to the American one, but with the added burden of a large class of people upset because they have to hear people at work talk about Top Gear, and the subclass that is upset to hear people talking about how they luckily dont associate with anyone that would talk about Top Gear. The Guardian got mad because they were forced to admit they missed Clarkson. Leblanc is not seen as being the problem with the new show and is not blamed for any of the production missteps and clumsy attempts to address the prior host exodus. Everyone places the blame on Chris Evans. Source: Red top tabloid websites and /r/britishproblems
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# ? May 31, 2016 23:42 |
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I'd like to say that if it were any other show, or if it were a new show, a season or two of refinement would give it a good chance. It's clearly not settled in yet, it's not quite a proper cohesive thing. If it had a time to come together properly, for everything to be moulded into place, for the show to adjust to fit what it's supposed to be, it could be a good show. I'd like to say that, but unfortunately Chris Evans might just be bad enough to have killed the show before it really starts. I feel like if he was on a reality show, he'd either be voted off immediately or never be allowed to leave, depending on how much torture the show involved. Like, if I'm A Celebrity was the show I'm A Celebrity pretended to be, Chris Evans would spend the next eternity neck-deep in poisonous spiders, gulping down a diet of kangaroo turds and tapeworms. I'm kinda hoping that they replace him entirely and try to make a watchable show out of Top Gear. It's not going to survive an entire season with him.
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# ? May 31, 2016 23:58 |
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shadow puppet of a posted:The UK reception has been identical to the American one, but with the added burden of already knowing exactly what Evans is like, and being denied the American's faint hope that he might be ok.
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# ? Jun 1, 2016 00:09 |
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Tricky Ed posted:Rory is great and why isn't he on the main show. Good news!! https://twitter.com/MrRoryReid/status/737029452652281856
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# ? Jun 1, 2016 00:15 |
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How far out are these filmed? When is the first episode that they are filming where Chris Evans is aware of how episode 1 was reviewed? He can barely contain any negative reaction he has to anything so it might be interesting to see his tics and twitches and odd timing ramped up.
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# ? Jun 1, 2016 01:00 |
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Someone in here said they filmed four studio segments in a row which doesn't bold well if true. The second one is probably damage limitations but they could conceivably go back and re-cut the footage/do new voice overs for the others. I think it would have to be pretty loving dire though and if they did it would be an indication that there is very serious problems. You think they would've done a test pilot to sort out these issues. Anybody watching this can see it isn't working.
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# ? Jun 1, 2016 01:05 |
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Poor Chris Evans. http://metro.co.uk/2016/05/31/oops-captain-america-got-blamed-for-how-rubbish-the-new-top-gear-reboot-was-5916126/
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# ? Jun 1, 2016 01:10 |
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They couldn't keep him at the back of the bus, he's like the Rosa Parks of motoring shows!
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# ? Jun 1, 2016 01:28 |
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What if they did test it with a carefully curated BBC test audience.
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