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Is it even worth trying for more runes with my gear? I want to try to see more of the game before I finish it, if I ascend I'll probably stop playing for a while. I have some sources of rF I can put on but I'd lose rCorr and some of the MR, I haven't found any rC or rElec at all. I have 6 potions of cure mutation so I can probably do Slime but are the other branches going to be a death wish for me? I don't have a clue what they have in store.
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I suggest just taking the Orb and finish your first game. It's more for the satisfaction of accomplishment. Your second game (and there will be a second game! You've got the bug) you can experiment further.
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the Orb of Zot posted:RIP Decks of Wonders (and Helix cards and Focus cards) Thankfully we got a good evoker god now. World Famous W fucked around with this message at 22:35 on May 29, 2016 |
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every time this comes up i'm going to repeat my thought that nemelex should be reworked as a primarily-extended god, just go in hard on the whole "cards painted in demon's blood" thing
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Another post to ask for advice, I'm playing a MiBe and it's the farthest I've gotten so far, really want to get a 3 rune win. I've gotten two lair-branch runes, cleared all of depths as well as elf, crypt and vault:4. I need to get my third rune now, I'm guessing that's vaults:5, and I've heard it can be quite dangerous. How best should I approach it as a MiBe? Current game: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Sent/Sent.txt I'm also wondering, how important is MR vs. Slay+6 for a ring? I'm currently at two pips of MR, and can switch out my slay+6 ring for another pip.
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Shakill OReal posted:
You would rather have the rcorr and rc for slime over cmut potions. Slime isn't hard and its kinda neat, just don't rush. Your gear isn't bad in all honesty. E: If you just want to see more of extended, clear vestible, do slime, and see how you feel after that.
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ThePineapple posted:Another post to ask for advice, I'm playing a MiBe and it's the farthest I've gotten so far, really want to get a 3 rune win. I've gotten two lair-branch runes, cleared all of depths as well as elf, crypt and vault:4. I need to get my third rune now, I'm guessing that's vaults:5, and I've heard it can be quite dangerous. How best should I approach it as a MiBe? +6 Slay is really really good, hard to beat that. MR++ is fine. Vaults:5 is definitely rough, but a MiBe with an awesome executioners axe and good gear shouldn't have major problems. Be ready to stair dance, and teleport if a warden blocks them and you're in trouble (id your tele wand if possible). Use Trog's abilities but don't get exhausted while surrounded. rElec and some more rFire would be nice but I think you'll be fine. lizardhunt fucked around with this message at 01:37 on May 30, 2016 |
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Thalamas posted:Edit: Nevermind, apparently counting is not my strong point this morning. Mutations! You frequently emit foul miasma is the gooniest of mutations.
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Austen Tassletine posted:I've come back to crawl after taking a break for a few versions and have been thinking about the mutation system. How about if it was changed so that the mutations inflicted are temporary unless the source is killed within a certain number of turns, otherwise they become permanent? This should still be more interesting than the old system hoping you find a source of resist mutation, or the current one in which you hope to have found enough cure mutation pots. The weird thing is that there already is a system for temporary badmuts which some abyss/pan enemies use. But for some reason permanent malmutate still exists as well. rF is extremely important in Zot:5 because orbs of fire can hit for about 120 damage unresisted. It's definitely more important than rCorr and MR, especially since orbs of fire don't care about either of those resists. ThePineapple posted:I'm also wondering, how important is MR vs. Slay+6 for a ring? I'm currently at two pips of MR, and can switch out my slay+6 ring for another pip. MR is nice but you don't need it all the time, especially since you already have the artifact ring with MR and you have access to Trog's Hand. I'd wear slay most of the time but switch to the MR ring around scary mr-checking things (e.g. vault sentinels, things that can paralyse/banish, etc). But cast Trog's Hand first and only swap rings if it's still above 0% chance to affect you.
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jerkstoresup posted:+6 Slay is really really good, hard to beat that. MR++ is fine. I'd lean on Trog's Hand a bit too especially when trying to crack V:5 - you do not want a sentinel to mark you if you can avoid it. Otherwise, buff up - I'd chug a might and maybe a resistance - and get stair dancing. Zerk as you need to (but probably not on V:5 if you can avoid it with the mess - don't want to be slowed/exhausted there) and don't be afraid to lean on BiA if it looks rough. Not having haste kinda sucks, but you seem beefy enough to deal. Just take it slow, stairdance as you can, kill wardens/sentinels ASAP. Read a magic map scroll when you're in there if you get a chance, to give you some idea where you are if you teleport. ID your tele wand, you have plenty of ?oID
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Managed to clear the vaults! Thanks for the help. It was easier than expected, only actually scary part was when a flayed ghost flayed me to ~40%HP with a bunch of other monsters around. Now to go through Zot and win... I'm a bit nervous, but I found a "+0 pair of boots "Ruegosk" {rF++ MR+ rCorr}" on V:5 which brings me up to rF+++, so hopefully that means I can deal with orbs of fire and the like. Edit: I finally found a crystal plate armor, which I could theoretically enchant to +10 or so. I've been wearing the +6 scale mail "Awycyn" {-Cast +Blink Regen+ Str+8}. Which is better, the huge amount of AC from the crystal plate, or the Blink, Regen and Str from the scale mail? ThePineapple fucked around with this message at 02:47 on May 30, 2016 |
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Strength is just a bonus, it's not exceptional particularly for a Minotaur which will have enough Strength naturally. Regen is always a nice thing (I tend to overvalue it so grain of salt) and Blink is only good IF you use it. Your current AC/EV situation is fine as is so it's down to if you want more AC (with a minor tradeoff in EV).
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ThePineapple posted:Managed to clear the vaults! Thanks for the help. It was easier than expected, only actually scary part was when a flayed ghost flayed me to ~40%HP with a bunch of other monsters around. Now to go through Zot and win... I'm a bit nervous, but I found a "+0 pair of boots "Ruegosk" {rF++ MR+ rCorr}" on V:5 which brings me up to rF+++, so hopefully that means I can deal with orbs of fire and the like. You look pretty good for Zot. I'd just be careful with rElec - it doesn't come up much, but Elec Golems can be painful if you don't kill them quick. More AC is nice, but expect to see your EV to take a hit especially with losing the str bonus - I'd take a look with both armors on and see what you feel most comfortable with. (Then see Grimm's comments about Regen/Blink.) Go get 'em!
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How often are you casting blink? If it's not "all the time to get out of bad spots into better ones" go with crystal plate. Actually, go with crystal plate and see what happens. What's your armour skill?
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Devlan Mud posted:
Congrats! Also, I saw you pop into my game briefly (I'm Almacia) so I'm sorry it wasn't more interesting than it was. On the other hand, I have learned that Hep is pretty neat.
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IronicDongz posted:
ironically, this is indirectly your fault (i hosed up when adding your tiles) should be fixed now!
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ThePineapple posted:Thinking back, 11 hours for a run seems like a long time, I guess I was just playing super careful everywhere. Don't lose the habit. The majority of my wins were when I was new and super careful everywhere.
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jerkstoresup posted:Don't lose the habit. The majority of my wins were when I was new and super careful everywhere. I would go so far as to say that playing slowly and carefully is probably the very best roguelike skill there is.
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Prism posted:I would go so far as to say that playing slowly and carefully is probably the very best roguelike skill there is. Agreed. During the tournament I was splatting like crazy until I sat down and made myself take everything slowly and carefully. I won two games later.
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jerkstoresup posted:Don't lose the habit. The majority of my wins were when I was new and super careful everywhere. counterpoint: become jaded and keep o+tab held down the entire time like the rest of us
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Continuing Hep report from a not-great player: Real good as a passive god. I always liked demonic guardian! There is a text error when fighting a ghost moth with an ancestor spirit when you don't see invisible, so I reported it. code:
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Spearing my way through a Z:5 lung, when suddenly: 79050 | Zot:5 | Cast into level 5 of the Abyss (the power of Zot) 79050 | Abyss:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Abyss 79052 | Abyss:5 | Got an abyssal rune of Zot ... and done! http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/chamandro/morgue-chamandro-20160531-043343.txt code:
I used to play HO of Beogh a lot a while ago, and they are way easier to play now. Sadly it's too hard/not worth micromanaging your orcs, but they do serve as useful meat shields. Basically, I used up my stockpile of them to take down Mennas, and after the slaughter was never able to recover the hoard in any meaningful way. It is much, much easier to handle your orcs now though, compared to back when I last played the game, and you had to micromanage equipment of each individual orc, and deal with them picking up and dropping stuff that you didn't want them to. Also, smiting is insanely good now, I ended up with Invo as my highest skill but still did not nearly use smite enough. nogic fucked around with this message at 05:43 on May 31, 2016 |
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SirSamVimes posted:counterpoint: become jaded and keep o+tab held down the entire time like the rest of us I should probably stop doing this, and hitting Random Character at chargen if I ever want a win, but eh!
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I just want to say that PleasingFungus is awesome. Thanks to all the developers also.
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World Famous W posted:I just want to say that PleasingFungus is awesome. Please tell me you step in the middle and it's actually a door vault of ancestor ghosts.
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World Famous W posted:I just want to say that PleasingFungus is awesome. Let's not get carried away now.
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Ugly John posted:Let's not get carried away now. Except for not including the Crown of Eternal Torment, whoever that developer was is my enemy.
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You just made me remember Singularity. That was the best spell.
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kalstrams posted:
Using Dagebea will increase the chance of meeting small green mystics who will help you learn your true potential.
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Unhappy Meal posted:I should probably stop doing this, and hitting Random Character at chargen if I ever want a win, but eh! If you pick a Minotaur Axe Berserker you can do this and win.
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# ? Jun 1, 2016 01:22 |
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Minotaur "anything but shortblades" berserker, really. All of the others can work fine with a minotaur. Personally I kind of like swinging a bardiche around too.
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# ? Jun 1, 2016 01:27 |
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M&F king weapon class, unless you are using allies a lot in which case use polearms
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# ? Jun 1, 2016 01:29 |
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polearms are nice if you move quickly too - definitely a good centaur melee weapon
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# ? Jun 1, 2016 01:30 |
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I like Axes because I always end up getting incredibly tanky and then I can walk in to Vaults 5, press ab then hold down tab until it's clear. I'd have to press tab a lot more if I wasn't using an axe
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# ? Jun 1, 2016 01:37 |
gently caress, I accidentally clicked gateway Hell.
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pathetic little tramp posted:I can't read this code real well - the summoned monster won't be able to attack because it's stuck behind something right. The species_mock function is for a different vault, I believe. This one brings the dead trees back to life and purifies the nearby water from green to blue once you choose to worship Hep. Edit: Specifically, species_mock looks like it is for a vault that spawns a monster that is 'mockingly' similar to what your player species does: spawns an orb spider for Centaurs, a soldier ant for formicids, etc. Floodkiller fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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