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Elder Postsman posted:My house had some bad toilet paper placement when I bought it: Pre-heated TP.
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 Darchangel posted:Pre-heated TP. It's like a warm Turkish towel for your bunghole.
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Jun 1, 2016 21:17
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Or pre-cooled TP if you have central air.
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Jun 1, 2016 21:22
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Haha, one of my bathrooms has a vent like that. When the AC is running, that blast of cold air on your bare butt cheeks can be startling!
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Jun 1, 2016 21:42
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Ghostnuke posted:Haha, one of my bathrooms has a vent like that. When the AC is running, that blast of cold air on your bare butt cheeks can be startling! It's your own house, you can sit all the way down on the seat.
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Jun 1, 2016 21:50
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Ghostnuke posted:Haha, one of my bathrooms has a vent like that. When the AC is running, that blast of cold air on your bare butt cheeks can be startling! This is why you need a bidet with heated dryer function.
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Jun 1, 2016 21:53
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Elder Postsman posted:My house had some bad toilet paper placement when I bought it: 
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Jun 1, 2016 21:56
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It's too drat hot, I wish I was that dog. 
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Jun 1, 2016 23:13
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Cold air comes out of heating vents?!
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Jun 1, 2016 23:21
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You have different vents for hot and cold? Pretty rare in the US even in very recently-built houses.
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Jun 1, 2016 23:24
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Baronjutter posted:Cold air comes out of heating vents?! Pedantry, but: it's not a "heating vent," it's just a "register," it doesn't care what system you have hooked up to it at the central-air end, and yeah, as stated above, your AC and heat will both be on the same set of ducts.
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Splizwarf posted:You have different vents for hot and cold? Pretty rare in the US even in very recently-built houses. They're probably from some weird place (Europe/northern US) that has never heard of central A/C. Now I'm wondering if wherever they're from it's standard to use floor registers in regular houses, because that'd make sense if it was heat-only. Or maybe I'm the weird one, but every central air/heat installation I've seen in a built-on-site house has the registers in the ceiling, I've only seen the floor registers in mobile homes, where it makes sense for packaging reasons (no attic to run the ducting through). Edit: according to the data sticker in my closet, my house came with central heat standard, A/C was an extra-cost option. But the A/C is just a bit that plugs into the top of the furnace cabinet, it all uses the same ducting. Ambrose Burnside posted:I've definitely never seen a register that blows w much force. I can see it if the HVAC is oversized for the living space or you're doing some goofy min-max thing by shutting almost all the registers to increase airflow through the remaining open ones  ). The photo in question is probably a bit on the high side airflow-wise, but definitely plausible, my experiment went almost that high, at least to switchplate level. Keep in mind the perspective kinda makes it look higher than it is, and the end is probably just outside the frame. The end would fall down immediately after the photo was taken, but it'd probably keep unspooling anyway, with the air blowing between the roll and the free end now anchored by its own weight.
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Jun 2, 2016 01:25
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Bad Angus! Bad!
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Is central AC that's part of the general house's duct system common in the US? Or is it usually just one or the other? I imagine if you live somewhere that needs AC you probably get by with base boards, and if you live somewhere that needs beefy winter heating you probably get by without AC in the summer or maybe a window unit in your bedroom for those 2 weeks it gets real hot?
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I think the ceiling registers thing is a regional thing. Here in Iowa, all the older houses I've lived in had floor registers, because they used the spaces between the joists as ducting. Baronjutter posted:Is central AC that's part of the general house's duct system common in the US? Or is it usually just one or the other? I imagine if you live somewhere that needs AC you probably get by with base boards, and if you live somewhere that needs beefy winter heating you probably get by without AC in the summer or maybe a window unit in your bedroom for those 2 weeks it gets real hot? Hahaha. Oh god. No. Central heat and AC combined systems are standard in at least half of the country. When you have a yearly swing from -20 to 105F every year, you end up running both. Especially in the Midwest, because the furnace is usually in the basement, so running the ducting up from the bottom is easier. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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Jun 2, 2016 01:42
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In Florida we run ceiling vents only as you'd expect. If circulation's bad due to blowing hot air into the top of the room, you just get a fan going, for the two nights a year it's an issue.
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Liquid Communism posted:I think the ceiling registers thing is a regional thing. Ceiling registers are common in slabs and in basements. Otherwise, you'd have to dig through the concrete.
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Yeah, I seriously can not imagine living anywhere without a central A/C system. That is dealbreaker on any place. But luckily I live in Florida*, where finding houses without A/C is nearly impossible. *Kiiiiiiiilllll meeeeee
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Baronjutter posted:Is central AC that's part of the general house's duct system common in the US? Or is it usually just one or the other? I imagine if you live somewhere that needs AC you probably get by with base boards, and if you live somewhere that needs beefy winter heating you probably get by without AC in the summer or maybe a window unit in your bedroom for those 2 weeks it gets real hot?  January mean temperature  July mean temperature  Large parts of the U.S. have hot summers and reasonably cold winters, enough to warrant both A/C and heating that doesn’t cost a fortune. It helps that natural gas is really cheap in the U.S..
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Liquid Communism posted:I think the ceiling registers thing is a regional thing. kid sinister posted:Ceiling registers are common in slabs and in basements. Otherwise, you'd have to dig through the concrete. Fair enough, basements aren't really a thing around here (NE TX, water table/flood risk is too high), so the unit's usually in the attic or a closet with the ducting in the attic. Makes sense that you'd put the furnace in the basement and run the ducts under the floor if a basement is available. Edit: those maps in the post before this one don't tell the full story, for example it AVERAGES ~50F here in the winter and ~83F in summer, but we regularly have a solid month's worth of consecutive days over 100F (then a storm will come through and it'll cool off to 85F for a day or two, then right back up to 110F and humid as gently caress as the rain boils off. Same with below-freezing temps in the winter. Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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Delivery McGee posted:
Right. Even in Phoenix, when the average daily temps are a comfortable 60 degrees, overnight winter temps dip into freezing. Then of course the summers hit 120 degrees on occasion 
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canyoneer posted:Right. Even in Phoenix, when the average daily temps are a comfortable 60 degrees, overnight winter temps dip into freezing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PYt0SDnrBE When even Texans make fun of your weather, you should probably reconsider the whole "putting a city in the middle of the desert" thing.
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Aside from American climate misunderstandings, once you're already putting in an air handler and ductwork, it's cheaper in both materials and labor to add a heat source in the air handler than to install a separate heating system.Delivery McGee posted:Fair enough, basements aren't really a thing around here (NE TX, water table/flood risk is too high), so the unit's usually in the attic or a closet with the ducting in the attic. Makes sense that you'd put the furnace in the basement and run the ducts under the floor if a basement is available. Attics are a terrible place for air handlers and ductwork. It's just cheaper for the builder, and they can get away with it because most of the country thinks it's normal and appropriate.
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Zhentar posted:Attics are a terrible place for air handlers and ductwork. It's just cheaper for the builder, and they can get away with it because most of the country thinks it's normal and appropriate. I was literally thinking about this while pondering how to get more space in my basement. Fine HVAC/dehumidifier/water heater complex, you can stay.
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I would've killed for central air anywhere I lived in the Midwest. Instead, I grew up relying on window units and occasionally didn't even have that luxury. Meanwhile, the trailer I lived in in Florida had a shared central system, but the breaker for it was outside. Guess who had to reset it on freezing nights or overly hot and humid days? Basically, relying on landlords to do anything in their tenants' best interests is one hell of a crapshoot but I'll never be able to afford owning a house. Sucks to be me.
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I remember several houses I grew up around in western IL and eastern MO had very early "air conditioning" that was actually just fans (think firefighter deployable fans) and ductwork that would pull air from the basements / root cellars up through floor registers and more fans and ductwork to pull air up through the house to the upper floors through the attic. All those houses had all their bedrooms on the second floor so I spent many august nights as a child sleeping on the first floor if not the basement - literally the floor because it was nice and chilly. My great grandma's farm was all decked out and the fans were on separate switches and even reverse switches. So in the winter you could suck the furnace and fireplace air from the first floor to the second. In the chilly fall you could actually reverse the fans and pull air down from the second floor and attic to the first floor to warm in. We slept in the bedrooms during the winter. Still trying to figure out if that's crappy construction or not. By electrical usage I'm sure it's a nightmare of inefficiency.
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SharkTattoos posted:Still trying to figure out if that's crappy construction or not. By electrical usage I'm sure it's a nightmare of inefficiency. I doubt it. Fans, even large ones, use very little power compared to an air conditioner’s compressor. A similar concept exists today. It’s called a “whole house fan”.
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Platystemon posted:I doubt it. Fans, even large ones, use very little power compared to an air conditioner’s compressor. Whole house fans are tits, there's no better sensation than flipping one on and feeling like you're standing in a wind tunnel sucking all that awesome cool evening air throughout your hot stagnant house. I've got central air/heat (through the same floor vents even!), and I'm going to be putting one in myself because  Plus my hundred year old house maintains temps really well throughout the day, so I can just cool it down at night, shutter up during the day, repeat ad nauseam for crazy good energy efficiency
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DocCynical posted:That is definitely not readily accessible. Looks nice though. My old house had the breaker box in a "secret" closet in the basement. It was all ugly 70s wood paneling, and the doors to the storage closets and laundry room were built into it (using the kind of latches that you need to push in to unlatch, and then they swing out). Those were visible due to the large gaps around the doors, but the electrical closet door was fitted much more closely, and I don't think I even knew it was there until I was like 14.
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Slanderer posted:My old house had the breaker box in a "secret" closet in the basement. It was all ugly 70s wood paneling, and the doors to the storage closets and laundry room were built into it (using the kind of latches that you need to push in to unlatch, and then they swing out). Those were visible due to the large gaps around the doors, but the electrical closet door was fitted much more closely, and I don't think I even knew it was there until I was like 14. In Minnetonka, MN each house used to have it's own well. They wouldn't have a separate well house, it would be an extension room off the basement outside of the footprint. Once everyone went to municipal water, people would build bookcases with hinges to cover the well room and use it as a root cellar. They're pretty cool. When I was looking for houses a few years ago, our agent was able to tell if there was a secret room every time, but I never would have seen them. You look for one of the shelf sides to be angled for clearance when the bookcase door opens. He learned to check because sometimes people didn't cap their wells and it wouldn't meet code when you tried to buy it.
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OSU_Matthew posted:awesome cool evening air not sure I follow
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Florida is a hellhole. Why do people not leave as soon as humanly possible? e. Cheap Apalachicola oysters own bones, but the rest of your state is just swamp rear end personified and driving a pickup truck. Safety Dance fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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Most of us do, tbh.
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Safety Dance posted:e. Cheap Apalachicola oysters own bones. Maybe not for much longer though... http://www.eater.com/2015/7/23/9010545/oysters-apalachicola-bay-florida-georgia-altanta
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Enourmo posted:Most of us do, tbh. Not really. Only place that has a higher net migration is Texas. It's humid as hell, but there's a reason all those drat snowbirds invade Florida every year.
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mostlygray posted:In Minnetonka, MN each house used to have it's own well. They wouldn't have a separate well house, it would be an extension room off the basement outside of the footprint. Once everyone went to municipal water, people would build bookcases with hinges to cover the well room and use it as a root cellar. They're pretty cool. When I was looking for houses a few years ago, our agent was able to tell if there was a secret room every time, but I never would have seen them. You look for one of the shelf sides to be angled for clearance when the bookcase door opens. He learned to check because sometimes people didn't cap their wells and it wouldn't meet code when you tried to buy it. I'd love to find out that my house had a hidden room behind a bookshelf.
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xwing posted:Not really. Only place that has a higher net migration is Texas. went to see how low connecticut was and i noticed that ny and il had the most migrations. i get ny but why are people fleeing illinois
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I am so glad that whole house fans were mentioned. The house i'm now (I inherited the house) used to have one built into the attic, with all the attic ventilation necessary, but it was torn out when the roof was replaced 20 years ago, supposedly it wasn't working. Anyway, i already have all the hard stuff done, attic is insulated really, really well (Michigan home, thanks dad) and the attic access is already in place (with an insulated panel!) I looked into whole house fans because there are about 3 months in Michigan where neither AC nor heat is needed, but getting some glorious cool night air in the house would be wonderful. I bought a high velocity fan (6,100 cfm supposedly) for $45 instead of getting a (admittedly, low-end whole house fan off amazon) which seemed to move less CFM. I figured either way i get a nice fan that moves some air, but whats stopping me from using my stand alone fan as a whole house fan, if i build a frame to use it for the same purpose, suck warm air out of the house in the evening and draw in the cool air ? I've seen videos on youtube of people using standard box fans for this purpose and supposedly it works well.
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xwing posted:Not really. Only place that has a higher net migration is Texas. It's cheap and it's hot?
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