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Landsknecht posted:Cap rats have nerfed AFK ratting though, and any ratting, even in carriers, isn't as good as WH or HS Incursion money Carrier ratting can be far more lucrative than Incursions. On SiSi I've gotten 50m ticks on a basic setup, and supposedly people have squeezed out 80-90m in perfect conditions (blinged carrier without facing competition over sites). I've found Incursions to be a good source of income but I don't get where people say it's the end all be all. Between waiting to get a group going (or into a fleet) at best you'll make an extra 20m to 40m/hour, only counting when you're actually running, than a low skill VNI AFK ratting unless you really start blinging out your poo poo out and running with a dedicated crowd for that. But then you're literally spending at least 4-6b isk that will take you in the range of at least 20 hours, best case scenario, of dedicated incursion time to make it back. If you have fun doing Incursions and aren't doing it just to fund some other activity then you're doing great and enjoying the game, otherwise you've put in a whole lot of time, effort, and isk, into something that isn't paying back at a reasonable pace. WH money is either not really all that great for the level of risk involved unless you can find a good C3/C4 with 3-4 characters or you're in a decent sized Corp with some infrastructure to support either living in a wormhole with good connections or day tripping into them.
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quote:(19:44:32) directorbot: Ministers! You will be missed frand.
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nessin posted:Carrier ratting can be far more lucrative than Incursions. On SiSi I've gotten 50m ticks on a basic setup, and supposedly people have squeezed out 80-90m in perfect conditions (blinged carrier without facing competition over sites). I've found Incursions to be a good source of income but I don't get where people say it's the end all be all. Between waiting to get a group going (or into a fleet) at best you'll make an extra 20m to 40m/hour, only counting when you're actually running, than a low skill VNI AFK ratting unless you really start blinging out your poo poo out and running with a dedicated crowd for that. But then you're literally spending at least 4-6b isk that will take you in the range of at least 20 hours, best case scenario, of dedicated incursion time to make it back. If you have fun doing Incursions and aren't doing it just to fund some other activity then you're doing great and enjoying the game, otherwise you've put in a whole lot of time, effort, and isk, into something that isn't paying back at a reasonable pace. How much does that "blinged carrier" cost? Because that would take time to make back as well. Running incursions in HS with one of the HQ groups will get 200-300mil/hr, and you have a much smaller risk of loosing everything then getting dropped on in your carrier and blown up, simply due to the groups SRP. Not saying I would rather be doing HS incursions, because then you have to deal with their comms, but some details are being left out in your argument. e: and yes, those HQ groups can sometimes take over 2hrs to get into.
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War Eagle posted:such as only being able to place citadels in systems where you have sov This kinda exists right now. Sov doesn't block others from deploying them, but it adds a day to the anchoring time for every level of strategic index in that system. They should probably have it do more than that though because extra waiting time is just an inconvenience.
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BAE B BLUE posted:You will be missed frand. RIP that highsec ganker, m8m8m8
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ChickenWing posted:Hey Video Games is the "no talking about Xenuria" rule still in force if he's posting in this thread? Hello Chickenwing! It is yes. Let us not talk about Xenuria. He is on probation now and will not be allowed to post in these eve threads. Especially not while they are my favourite on the forums. The probation reason should be exceptionally clear to him and to everyone else. I hope no one is too affronted by it. Also I am sorry Boney but I had to otherwise it would be unfair.
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drgnwr1 posted:How much does that "blinged carrier" cost? Because that would take time to make back as well. Running incursions in HS with one of the HQ groups will get 200-300mil/hr, and you have a much smaller risk of loosing everything then getting dropped on in your carrier and blown up, simply due to the groups SRP. Not saying I would rather be doing HS incursions, because then you have to deal with their comms, but some details are being left out in your argument. I don't know about a expensive carrier fit, but a basic one that can hit that 50m with little effort is in the realm of 1.6-1.7b. Since Carrier ratting has to be active now, it's kind of hard to lose your carrier. It will happen to a dedicated group that does a good/smart combat drop on you, but barring that any losses are probably going to be player problems rather than inevitable. You also lose some time to needing to dock up or safe up when people roam by, but how much time you lose to that is highly dependent upon your risk level and what space you occupy. You can also lose Incursions ships without SRP to gankers looking for the blingy fits or by losing focus in a site and not broadcasting, broadcasting late, or other stupid stuff. Plus implicit in everything is that you can log in and get started doing ratting at a moments notice. If you've got several hours to kill then wasting one or two doing random stuff while waiting for a queue to pop isn't that big of a deal, but if you're stuck in a small area waiting on a queue when you've got an average of 2-3 hours playtime... Even beyond that when you factor in time lose to someone clearing the Incursion early and thus needing to move (or wait for another Incursion) even blitzing Level 4 Missions (once you account for the fact that you're realistically only getting 100 to maybe 150/hour after LP turn around) starts to make up the difference just in ability to get up and go with it. nessin fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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Orange Red Bull posted:Now, whenever and wherever PL goes to do a thing their first thought has to be: where are goons and what are they doing? Are they near? Can they get near? What wormholes are around, etc. Sorry to tell you- this isn't a thing. The only thing you have working in your favor at the moment is massed hurricanes and even that's really only threatening on the planet 5 grid. Smartbombing Rifter citadel defense fleets with a Titan has never been more fun though! drgnwr1 posted:How much does that "blinged carrier" cost? About 4-5b depending on the market for new capital mods- things like Capital ASB's are stupid expensive (as seen on Baki's loving Dreadnought). Xolve fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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Jun 1, 2016 19:59
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hows it going
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Xolve posted:Sorry to tell you- this isn't a thing. The only thing you have working in your favor at the moment is massed hurricanes and even that's really only threatening on the planet 5 grid. I remember a time and a people who once thought their titans made them unbeatable
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Xolve posted:Sorry to tell you- this isn't a thing. The only thing you have working in your favor at the moment is massed hurricanes and even that's really only threatening on the planet 5 grid. only, eh? nevermind the strongest bond in the incest coalition is knowing you'd get rolled.
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That you've all joined together and still can't achieve consistent beatdowns should sort of strike you as a thing.
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Orange Red Bull posted:I remember a time and a people who once thought their titans made them unbeatable Please link any/all recently killed PL/NC Titans
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Xolve posted:Sorry to tell you- this isn't a thing. The only thing you have working in your favor at the moment is massed hurricanes and even that's really only threatening on the planet 5 grid. ok
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Xolve posted:Please link any/all recently killed PL/NC Titans exactly
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are you trying your hardest to outhubris everyone else on the planet or are you actually andy kaufmanning the poo poo out of us right now xolve
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Eonwe posted:hows it going It's been better
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Eonwe posted:hows it going Howdy, doing good and you were missed!
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There is a dead CO2 Nomen for every Rifter that got Titan SBeed earlier today. http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=45310,1442&b=7057080,7057095&e=30,135&t=cIakc&o=1
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frozenpussy posted:There is a dead CO2 Nomen for every Rifter that got Titan SBeed earlier today. Hot drat, still not trading efficiently yet
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I bet i wont see that battle report on leddit
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Orange Red Bull posted:Hot drat, still not trading efficiently yet before the BR went up I was scrolling through zkill page 1... nomens. page 2... more nomens. No way there's a page HO MY GOD there's a page 3 of nomens.
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wew Mittens, going out of your way to talk to my 5 man south african corp to force me out. Used to be cool to just shoot the poo poo, I guess this has become serious loving business. Whokay broseph, go crazy. Anyhow please leave them out of this insane poo poo I didn't tell them anything, they're cool guys part of a cool coalition.
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bluegoon posted:wew Mittens, going out of your way to talk to my 5 man south african corp to force me out. Used to be cool to just shoot the poo poo, I guess this has become serious loving business. Whokay broseph, go crazy. 
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bluegoon posted:wew Mittens, going out of your way to talk to my 5 man south african corp to force me out. Used to be cool to just shoot the poo poo, I guess this has become serious loving business. Whokay broseph, go crazy. Sell your main and use a different guy.
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bluegoon posted:wew Mittens, going out of your way to talk to my 5 man south african corp to force me out. Used to be cool to just shoot the poo poo, I guess this has become serious loving business. Whokay broseph, go crazy. Things I'm sure mittens didn't do: 1) specifically go out of his way to talk about you to your CEO
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jm20 posted:Sell your main and use a different guy. loving never, for the appreciation of some ego crazy retard in sweatpants? gently caress off. I'll just go on being a goon.
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edit just in case because I don't feel like getting banned and I can't recall what we're not supposed to talk about
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wait, are we allowed to talk about that
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frozenpussy posted:wait, are we allowed to talk about that NO you dumb poo poo what are you doing.
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:are you trying your hardest to outhubris everyone else on the planet or are you actually andy kaufmanning the poo poo out of us right now xolve 
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bluegoon posted:loving never, for the appreciation of some ego crazy retard in sweatpants? gently caress off. I'll just go on being a goon. Negative vibes will follow you so do what you feel is right. namaste
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jm20 posted:Negative vibes will follow you so do what you feel is right. namaste It's OK, I will let my heart guide me through these challenging trials en tribulations, senpai.
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good answer
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:good answer  Just your friendly neighborhood song and dance man.
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My wife calls this underwear politics.
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I quit playing EVE and started to fish a lot more. I then realized that fishing is the same as playing EVE. Roaming = Trolling, Fishing with the boat still = gate camping/hot dropping.
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Uziduke posted:I quit playing EVE and started to fish a lot more. I then realized that fishing is the same as playing EVE. Roaming = Trolling, Fishing with the boat still = gate camping/hot dropping. Puttering down a river full of Asian Carp = Crossing Saranen.
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Please welp more canes, idiots are selling them on contract for like 5m profit and I really don't want to re list the stuff I have up for 15m more than that.
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